fears over Islam often a political maneuver against migrants, says Pope

Landon Caeli · 2025-12-06T11:30:33-0600

"Questioned about a growing trepidation among western Christians about the growth of Islam outside of the Middle East, especially in predominantly Christian nations in the West, the pope said this was something touched on in his discussions with interfaith leaders in Turkey and Lebanon.

However, he cautioned that oftentimes these fears are “generated by people who are against immigration and trying to keep out people who may be from another country, another religion, another race.”

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Landon Caeli · 2025-12-06T11:33:19-0600

I think the Pope misses the target, when he says it's a "maneuver against migrants", when in reality, it is a maneuver against cultural change.

Shouldn't there be a difference between the idea of migrants and cultural change? Because to me, they're two different things. Also, ideas useful in this discussion are the differences between revolutionary/ watershed cultural changes, and gradually integrated cultural changes..

Danthemailman · 2025-12-06T11:41:30-0600

Landon Caeli said:
I think the Pope misses the target, when he says it's a "maneuver against migrants", when in reality, it is a maneuver against cultural change.

Shouldn't there be a difference between the idea of migrants and cultural change? Because to me, they're two different things.

Christianity and Islam do not mix and never will. The growing trepidation among western Christians about the growth of Islam outside of the Middle East is justified. You are right that the difference between the idea of migrants and cultural change being two different things.

BCP1928 · 2025-12-06T11:42:45-0600

Landon Caeli said:
I think the Pope misses the target, when he says it's a "maneuver against migrants", when in reality, it is a maneuver against cultural change.

Shouldn't there be a difference between the idea of migrants and cultural change? Because to me, they're two different things. Also, ideas useful in this discussion are the differences between revolutionary/ watershed cultiral changes, and gradual, integrated cultural changes..

I think that is very perceptive of you. I think it applies to much of what is erroneously called "racism" as well.

Unqualified · 2025-12-06T11:58:22-0600

I think people may not want to change and want to shun Muslim immigrants is because they bring terrorism wherever the go. Some in the west are having a hard time seeing this. Personally I don’t want sharia law here or persecution of Christian’s. Just because they might become a majority doesn’t make then right or helpful to our country. The first things they are trying to do are take control of freedom of religion the governments, and they want to introduce sharia law. I don’t think we should have to change in these ways. Muslims need to conform to our culture. This is our country.

Delvianna · 2025-12-06T11:59:11-0600

BCP1928 said:
I think that is very perceptive of you. I think it applies to much of what is erroneously called "racism" as well.

Islam isn't a "race" though. While there is an argument to be had about there being a "culture" that ties to it, just like Christianity, you can't be called "racist" for being anti-islamic. That by definition makes no sense. There are lots of white people that follow the Islamic faith. Heres research that breaks Islam down by race just in the US. Link Which shows 60% of Muslims in the US, are white.

SavedByGrace3 · 2025-12-06T15:12:03-0600

Hmmm...
"Often the resistance against bank robbery is oftentimes because the robbers are from a different country, a different race, a different religion."
:help:

Or it could just be against bank robbery.

ThatRobGuy · 2025-12-06T20:35:46-0600

Landon Caeli said:
However, he cautioned that oftentimes these fears are “generated by people who are against immigration and trying to keep out people who may be from another country, another religion, another race.”

This statement he made... He's lumping things together that shouldn't be categorized the same.

One of these things is not like the others.

Two are circumstances of birth, one is an ideological choice.

Countries should absolutely have a right to be discriminating when it comes voluntarily ideologies with regards to who they let in.

People can't control which country they were born in, or which race they are...but people can certainly choose which ideologies they subscribe to.

Trying to lump Islam in with "Of Arab descent" has always been a dishonest ploy.

It'd be like equating "This guy is sympathetic to the IRA, he's not a good fit here" to "Racism against Irish people"

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