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Apple Sky · 2025-11-14T06:56:58-0600

Phil G said:
Don’t you realise that in order to be believed you need to have at least strong evidence for your claims?

And the problem is that, not only do you not have evidence for a variety of claims, the evidence points to the opposite of your claims.

So it all boils down to your belief which goes against actual facts and nothing else.

So ..........

Phil G · 2025-11-14T07:03:14-0600

Apple Sky said:
So ..........

So supply evidence for your claims. Hold yourself accountable to the people on here who dispute what you claim. Address the issues raised against your claims. Become a person is willing to engage and answer the problems raised by your claims.

Your latest responses have been “oh well (shrug)” “if you say so” and “so……..”

How does that help answer issues against your claims?

You started this thread and a variety of people have disputed your claims. Yet you don’t seem to hold yourself responsible for what you claim.

Strong in Him · 2025-11-14T07:07:47-0600

Apple Sky said:
If you say so.

I thought you possessed/used logic?

Watch the news - there are a few wars in the world. If, or when, they stop there will be huge rebuilding programmes to replace all the homes/hospitals/schools that have been destroyed.
Some countries suffer from poverty, earthquakes, floods or droughts. Some are dealing with internal rebellions, unrest, change of leadership, scandals etc. Some countries are in massive debt; some may be bankrupt.
And you think that their leaders have time/money/energy to work out if photographs taken over 50 years ago were faked?

Strong in Him · 2025-11-14T07:09:33-0600

Phil G said:
So it all boils down to your belief which goes against actual facts and nothing else.

That's why it has to be only a belief - the truth can be proved with facts.

Phil G · 2025-11-14T07:14:46-0600

Strong in Him said:
That's why it has to be only a belief - the truth can be proved with facts.

And when facts are known, any belief to the contrary is a belief in lies. Which is why it is against God for me to believe any of the flat earth explanations for satellite tv signals. It would be a belief in obvious and proven lies.

Jerry N. · 2025-11-14T07:17:45-0600

Strong in Him said:
That's why it has to be only a belief - the truth can be proved with facts.

In this case, this is true, but not all truths can be proven with facts. There is something else going on here, and it is probably important to figure it out.

Apple Sky · 2025-11-14T07:23:50-0600

Strong in Him said:
That's why it has to be only a belief - the truth can be proved with facts.

Strong in Him · 2025-11-14T07:26:13-0600

Jerry N. said:
In this case, this is true, but not all truths can be proven with facts. There is something else going on here, and it is probably important to figure it out.

I think the only thing that's going on is that this is the Conspiracy theories section of the forum, and Apple sky, by her own admission, is addicted to Conspiracy theories.

Also, she seems to genuinely believe that unless Genesis 1 is taken as a literal description of God's creation, then people are doubting God and the Bible.

Strong in Him · 2025-11-14T07:30:31-0600

Apple Sky said:
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You've read that yourself, I assume?

I can't think of any reason why you will not answer Phil G's question, unless it's that you don't want to concede/consider that satellite signals come from satellites and your assertion that there are no satellites would be shown to be wrong.

Apple Sky · 2025-11-14T07:35:26-0600

Strong in Him said:
You've read that yourself, I assume?

Of course I have.

Strong in Him · 2025-11-14T07:37:31-0600

Apple Sky said:
Of course I have.

Well think about it then.
You have been given facts about satellite signals and are unable to give a decent explanation for where they come from.
Yet you still believe that satellites don't exist.

Apple Sky · 2025-11-14T07:42:44-0600

Strong in Him said:
Well think about it then.

I have thought about it.

Phil G · 2025-11-14T07:43:10-0600

Apple Sky said:
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This is not about "illusions", but about facts. Provable facts in the case of satellite tv signals. I've already explained why flat earth explanations for the signals are complete nonsense, which wouldn't be the case if even one of them was remotely true. But they are not. They are nothing more than attempts to excuse their claim of flat earth.

And that means their claims are the illusion.

Apple Sky · 2025-11-14T07:47:16-0600

Phil G said:
This is not about "illusions", but about facts. Provable facts in the case of satellite tv signals.

I know.

Phil G · 2025-11-14T07:49:27-0600

Apple Sky said:
I know.

So what about the rest of my post? This is your MO all the time. Pick one part of the post you can latch onto, but ignore the rest. It is the flat earth claims of where satellite tv signals come from that is the illusion. You just don't want it to be destroyed.

Apple Sky · 2025-11-14T07:52:39-0600

Phil G said:
So what about the rest of my post?

What about it ?

Phil G · 2025-11-14T08:11:45-0600

Apple Sky said:
What about it ?

You see this is the type of attitude that doesn't endear you to people. That casts your sincerity back in post #1095 into doubt. You know quite well about it. Address the issues I have raised regarding satellite tv signals and be responsible in being held to account and answering for your claims.

Apple Sky · 2025-11-14T08:12:16-0600

I wonder how many civilians understand how little regard the military has towards the general population. We are deceived on so many levels, it's hard to know where to start.

Also one to consider is that these so-called incoming meteorites are not physical rocks that burn up in the atmosphere, but are instead electrical discharge events, hence no rocks that land on earth.

Halley was a Free Mason and made up the fairy tale about meteors as rocks in space.

Phil G · 2025-11-14T08:13:05-0600

Apple Sky said:
I wonder how many civilians understand how little regard the military has towards the general population. We are deceived on so many levels, it's hard to know where to start.

Also one to consider is that these so-called incoming meteorites are not physical rocks that burn up in the atmosphere, but are instead electrical discharge events, hence no rocks that land on earth.

Halley was a Free Mason and made up the fairy tale about meteors as rocks in space.

This is just yet another claim for which you have no evidence.

Apple Sky · 2025-11-14T08:16:02-0600

Phil G said:
This is just yet another claim for which you have no evidence.

If you say so.

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