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The Schumer Shutdown
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He and his party succeeded in getting the government open again, which was a defeat to Schumer and his friends. So it sounds like he's a better leader than Schumer.
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Yes, and even less possible in the Trump. administration.
Nothing from the iron fisted Republicans who only want their way. The used to be the party of “No!” Now they are the party of, “Yes, sir Mr. President. How wonderful you are. Anything for you. Best ever!”
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I guess we should have expected Republicans to reverse the law that they passed in July just because the 42 Dems who couldn't beat the bill in July wanted another chance. (and, yes it was wrong not to send out the SNAP checks).
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Google is still free but I like being helpful so...
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Vance faults Dems for previously rejecting 'exact deal' that reopened the government: 'All for nothing'
Vice President JD Vance told Sean Hannity on "Hannity" that the government shutdown inflicted needless pain on Americans and achieved "nothing."
Vice President Vance lists what the Democratic Party in Congress accomplished because of this Schumer Shutdown.
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The Trump Administration are the ones who held votes and who voted to re-open the Government - The Democrats voted against it - causing millions to go without food. That is the plain truth.
They stated so
Democrats’ Admit American’s Suffering Is Their “Leverage”
“There will be families that are going to suffer… but it is one of the few leverage times we have.” Rep. Katherine Clark, the number two House Democrat.
In a stunning admission that peels back the curtain on partisan tactics, Democratic Senator Chris Coons, amongst several other Democrats, have openly declared that the ongoing government shutdown serves as their party’s “only moment of leverage.”
Hogwash - the legislation in the Big Beautiful Bill passed the House and Senate - signed into law on July 4, 2025 - The Democrats did not like the fact they could not win legislatively, so hostage taking was their only option - and it failed miserably.
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I didn't say he coined the name only that he distanced himself because not one of his promises about the ACA came true
- You can keep you plan - wrong
- You can keep your doctor - Wrong
- Health insurance cost will go down - Wrong
- Premiums have increased by 80%.
- From 2010 to 2023, the average premium for family coverage increased 80%, from just over $13,000 to nearly $24,000.
- Total healthcare costs for a family of four now exceed $30,000 per year—increasing from $18,000 per year when Obamacare was passed.
- Deductibles have increased over 50% since Obamacare was implemented in 2013.
Boston on October 30, 2013, President Obama promoted the Affordable Care Act (ACA) and emphasized its affordability. He stated that “for many Americans, health insurance will cost less than the cost of your cell phone bill or cable bill.”
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In order to secure health care subsidies for people who need it. Unlike the GOP, who intentionally want to get rid of it, and Trump who defied a court order by refusing to fund SNAP benefits, which were readily available through the shutdown.
Not hard to see who is on the side of their constituents here.
I agree. Democrats should have held strong. People were seeing that it is the Republican party that wants to deny SNAP funds they have full access to, and were trying to end health care subsidies for those who need them, polls were showing increasing support for Democrats and that many voters were seeing that it was the GOP to blame for the shutdown.
The tide was turning. If they kept going, who knows? They very well might have succeeded in getting health care subsidies for people who need them...but, in the end, Democrats caved. Same old story.
Instead, they got a Republican promise of a vote in the future. And as we all know, a promise from Republicans means exactly what you said: "ZERO - nothing."
-- A2SG, still, Democrats held on longer than I ever expected them to, so there's that....
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Hey, I agree. We should never have gone with the Heritage Foundation plan. Single payer is the way to go, baby!
-- A2SG, glad to see we're on the same page here....
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