FAITH-IN-HIM
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It has been nearly two months. What is causing the delay? If Obama, Biden, member of their administration are accused of treason, why have they not been apprehended, arrested, and prosecuted?
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CF has always been a site that welcomes people from different backgrounds and beliefs to participate in discussion and even debate. That is the nature of its ministry. In view of recent events emotions are running very high. We need to remind people of some basic principles in debating on this site. We need to be civil when we express differences in opinion. No personal attacks. Avoid you, your statements. Don't characterize an entire political party with comparisons to Fascism or Communism or other extreme movements that committed atrocities. CF is not the place for broad brush or blanket statements about groups and political parties. Put the broad brushes and blankets away when you come to CF, better yet, put them in the incinerator. Debate had no place for them. We need to remember that people that commit acts of violence represent themselves or a small extreme faction.
Obama referred to DOJ for criminal charges
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FAITH-IN-HIM
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Because when these alleged criminal activities were first reported by Fox News, there was no evidence at that time, and even two months later, no new information has been produced.
This is similar to the Benghazi investigation. At the end there will be nothing!
Did you know the Benghazi investigation lasted longer and cost more than the 9/11 investigation?
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essentialsaltes
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It's been another month and more.
No indictments, but maybe some questioning coming up.
DOJ prepares subpoenas in sweeping criminal probe of Obama-era Trump-Russia investigation
Trump has been publicly demanding such a probe for months, including specifying the names of some of the former top law enforcement and intelligence officials he wants to see prosecuted.Now the Justice Department appears to be doing just that, with the probe being led by Jason Reding Quiñones, a friend of Attorney General Pam Bondiwho is the U.S. attorney for the Southern District of Florida, sources familiar with the probe said.
The first grand jury subpoenas in the probe were being prepared for President Barack Obama’s director of National Intelligence, James Clapper and, reportedly, also for his CIA director, John Brennan. They seek documents pertaining to the long-running Russia investigation that began in 2016, during Obama’s tenure, one source said.
The sources described the investigation as Trump’s most ambitious attempt to date to weaponize his FBI and Justice Department against those he believes were out to get him dating back to after he was first elected to office in November 2016.
[Reality-based individuals] cite numerous investigations, including an exhaustive one by the bipartisan Senate Intelligence Committee. It concluded beginning in 2019 that Russia meddled in the 2016 election to help Trump defeat his Democratic rival Hillary Clinton. But investigators stopped short of saying Trump and his associates actively colluded in that effort with Moscow.
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According to Trump, there's never been a president that has been as misrepresented, as hated, as lied about, as misunderstood, as slandered by the media, or as conspired against as himself.
Poor man. When is the world going to acknowledge just how fantastic he is?
Yet those of us that try to live in the real world and deal with real data can see that at every point he excels at misrepresenting others, lying about others, misunderstanding the world and others, slandering others, slandering the media, trying to put a ban on the media, trying to conspire against the media, and trying to conspire against the very democratic process itself!
I'm in Australia and we've had some pretty suspect politicians, but none of their voices cause me PTSD.
I don't know how Americans put up with their president rambling through blatant lies of self-congratulation through to spiteful lies and accusations against former Presidents, apparently all without pausing for breath.
It's exhausting and it hasn't even been a year yet.
Poor man. When is the world going to acknowledge just how fantastic he is?
Yet those of us that try to live in the real world and deal with real data can see that at every point he excels at misrepresenting others, lying about others, misunderstanding the world and others, slandering others, slandering the media, trying to put a ban on the media, trying to conspire against the media, and trying to conspire against the very democratic process itself!
I'm in Australia and we've had some pretty suspect politicians, but none of their voices cause me PTSD.
I don't know how Americans put up with their president rambling through blatant lies of self-congratulation through to spiteful lies and accusations against former Presidents, apparently all without pausing for breath.
It's exhausting and it hasn't even been a year yet.
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The fun part is when the inquisitors were forced to admit that they had earlier cut the budget for embassy safety, even though the Secretary of State warned that it could lead to harm for our diplomats.
Jason Chaffetz Admits House GOP Cut Funding For Embassy Security: 'You Have To Prioritize Things'
And once that was out, the whole conspiracy collapsed like a compressed whoopee cushion.
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You do not live here... so you really do not know.
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I live here and my sentiments are similar.
I think it's the over-the-top ego stroking that bewilders me the most.
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You deserve an opinion, and it is noted.
Foreigners really have no spoon in this soup.
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They just get it thrown at them with no say in the matter.
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I live here. But I'm really old. I remember Joe McCarthy and Richard Nixon. Trump is just the most extreme case. We've got a lot of cleaning up to do. But it will happen.
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You deserve an opinion, and it is noted.
Foreigners really have no spoon in this soup.
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I think anyone on this board has the right to comment on a post here. You can ignore the foreign posters. I welcome their perspectives.
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Say what they want. But their opinions have no more weight than those of an illegal immigrant. We are American citizens. My family has been here since 1620. I have people in the Revolution, the Civil War, WW1, WW2, Korea, VN, and the Gulf War. We have blood in this matter. My family has 250 years of blood, sweat, and tears. We cut down the trees, plowed the land, and picked up weapons when called up. We have been paying taxes since the nation was started. Foreigners can say anything they want. But their words really do not weigh beyond a logical position. Fine. They do not have any say in where that money goes. They have no say in who our leaders are. They have no say in our laws, our constitution, or the fate of our children. I assume they have problems in their own countries that need attending to. They have a say there. Not here.
I do not ignore their opinions... I just wonder why they care what happens in my country?
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You don't want to know what others think? From my distant viewpoint (although a lot of what Trump does affects in me in some way) I can give a viewpoint that's based on decades of following US politics. I can give an opinion based on visiting the US for months at a time and having travelled through a fair chunk of your country talking to very many Americans. And, unlike you, they were always very keen to hear what we thought of their country.
I would welcome your views on Australia if a matter came up in the forum. What I wouldn't do would complain that because you haven't even visited, haven't followed Aussie politics for years, paid tax and 'cut down the trees and plowed the land' that you aren't entitled to comment. Although you do suggest that you do not ignore our opinions. In which case, they have some weight I would have thought.
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