AOC's 'Red Light' district ruled by violent migrant gang taken down by feds

Hans Blaster · 2025-07-18T11:41:29-0500

Hentenza said:
Never did I accuse her of a crime. I accused her of neglect and not caring about the tremendous rise in crime in her district.

Congress doesn't control crime. This conflation of the roles of different levels of government is a distortion of reality. The article does it and intentionally or not you repeat that distortion by posting it. Is that your intent -- to distort reality to smear Rep Ocasio-Cortes? I hope it is not.

Hentenza said:
ETA: In the article that I posted many posts ago people expressed their dismay at her ignorance of what is happening. Some even wrote to her only to be ignored.

Good for you. That makes two of us.

Hentenza said:
Can you prove that I am lying or distorting? Is she involved in her district? Has she advocated for her district with regards to the crime increase?

I don't live in her district. I've never even been to NYC. I don't read NY media. I don't have the information to answer those questions.

Hentenza · 2025-07-18T12:24:22-0500

Hans Blaster said:
Congress doesn't control crime. This conflation of the roles of different levels of government is a distortion of reality. The article does it and intentionally or not you repeat that distortion by posting it. Is that your intent -- to distort reality to smear Rep Ocasio-Cortes? I hope it is not.

“Members serve as advocates for the views and needs of their constituents as well as stewards of national interests. Representational work may involve legislative activity, such as analyzing the provisions of proposed legislation for their potential impact on the area represented, or constituent service activity, such as assisting individuals, local governments, and organizations in obtaining federal grants and benefits. In addition, Members might represent regional and national interests in matters which might come before Congress.”

https://www.congress.gov/crs-product/RL33686

She is not serving as advocate for the needs of her constituents. Even if her main work is federal her constituents are not. For example she could contact the district managers and police authorities to demand action but there is no evidence that she has or intends to.

Hans Blaster said:
I don't live in her district. I've never even been to NYC. I don't read NY media. I don't have the information to answer those questions.

Fair enough. I don’t live there so I did not know also.

rjs330 · 2025-07-18T12:34:42-0500

Hans Blaster said:
I was naïve to think you would post something responsive to the query made to you. I'll not make that error again.

I have.

In Congress.

In Congress

In Congress

No, because I know the difference between state/local/federal government and between legislative and executive branches. Members of Congress do not "run" their districts. It is easier to think about with Senators. Mitch McConnell doesn't "run" Kentucky, Adam Schiff doesn't "run" California, Ron Johnson does not "run" Wisconsin. The *governors* of those states do. (All in my list are Democrats.) The state legislatures set the budget and the laws. Local governments (counties, cities, towns, viillages, etc.) operate the police forces, schools, etc.

This has nothing to do with partisanship and everything to do with HOW GOVERNMENT ACTUALLY WORKS, not some fantasy "gotcha" version pushed by some TV network.

Are you actually trying to say that a congressman has zero influence or responsibility to influence the district they represent? If their district is falling apart they have zero responsibility to try and help?

rjs330 · 2025-07-18T12:47:29-0500

Pommer said:
Typo aside, since when are representatives held to account for what goes on in their districts?

Part-&-parcel of being a politician, so we agree.

Not so much “defending her”, as I am questioning the metric of a Representative being held to account for the actions of their constituents. When did this become a thing?

No one is claiming they are responsible. She didnt go down there and tell or force criminals to commit crimes or increase gang activities.

The point is she has done NOTHING to try and influence the district to do better. If she speaks she blames Republicans for the problems. Instead of admitting there is a problem and pushing for change or policies to correct the problems. No, she cant pass local legislation nor can she pass a law in Congress to fix the issues in her area. BUT she can most certainly go there and meet with people and discuss solutions etc. If she's so full of good ideas then put pressure on those in her area to implement them.

Its not that she's responsible for rye crime itself. But she IS responsible to attempt to help change it through her power and influence. Or at least to try. Becauae she most certainly could try and if the local governments refuse she's got a big platform to tell everyone how she has tried, but no one else is willing to do what she thinks needs to be done.

Hans Blaster · 2025-07-18T13:06:33-0500

Hentenza said:
“Members serve as advocates for the views and needs of their constituents as well as stewards of national interests. Representational work may involve legislative activity, such as analyzing the provisions of proposed legislation for their potential impact on the area represented, or constituent service activity, such as assisting individuals, local governments, and organizations in obtaining federal grants and benefits. In addition, Members might represent regional and national interests in matters which might come before Congress.”

https://www.congress.gov/crs-product/RL33686

She is not serving as advocate for the needs of her constituents.

What federal grants for crime control (if they still exist) is she not helping local officials obtain?

Hentenza said:
Even if her main work is federal her constituents are not.

That's a very odd statement.

Hentenza said:
For example she could contact the district managers and police authorities to demand action but there is no evidence that she has or intends to.

What are "district managers"? You do know that Congressional districts only exist for one purpose -- to divide the voters in a state geographically so they vote for one member of the House rather than another -- right?

Hentenza said:
Fair enough. I don’t live there so I did not know also.

Hentenza · 2025-07-18T13:27:46-0500

Hans Blaster said:
What federal grants for crime control (if they still exist) is she not helping local officials obtain?

Not what I said or implied.

Hans Blaster said:
That's a very odd statement.

How? Her constituent are at the district level, are they not?

Hans Blaster said:
What are "district managers"? You do know that Congressional districts only exist for one purpose -- to divide the voters in a state geographically so they vote for one member of the House rather than another -- right?

Probably city managers or even the mayor might have been a better label.

DaisyDay · 2025-07-18T14:48:32-0500

Hentenza said:
Let’s start by what she has done to her district. This is about being as stupid as it gets. She talks all kinds of political rhetoric that has made her a superstar in DNC circles but she will do to America what she has done to her district.

“Major crime rose by an eye-popping 70% in Rep. Alexandria Ocasio-Cortez’s Bronx and Queens district since the ‘defund the police’ socialist lawmaker took office in 2019 — more than double the citywide increase of 30% over that same span, a Post analysis of NYPD data shows.

The 110th Precinct in Queens, which covers part of the infamous “Market of Sweethearts” human-trafficking and prostitution mecca on Roosevelt Avenue, saw a 105% surge, the highest increase of any NYC precinct in that period.

Major crimes consist of murder, rape, robbery, felony assault, burglary, grand larceny and auto theft.”

Exclusive | AOC’s district sees 70% crime surge — more than double NYC average: ‘She doesn’t care’

Major crimes consist of murder, rape, robbery, felony assault, burglary, grand larceny and auto theft.

nypost.com

Congresscritters are not responsible for police activity, so how does this quote have any relationship to AOC's intelligence?

Hentenza · 2025-07-18T14:52:19-0500

DaisyDay said:
Congresscritters are not responsible for police activity, so how does this quote have any relationship to AOC's intelligence?

You coming late to the discussion. Asked and answered .

wing2000 · 2025-07-18T15:37:08-0500

I'm still waiting on an answer from @Hentenza

wing2000 said:
Was the police force or funding reduced in her district as a result of the Congress woman's actions?

Hentenza · 2025-07-18T15:41:03-0500

wing2000 said:
I'm still waiting on an answer from @Hentenza

Again, immaterial. Has she tried to increase the funding to fight the tremendous increase in crime in her district?

wing2000 · 2025-07-18T15:43:13-0500

Hentenza said:
She is not serving as advocate for the needs of her constituents. Even if her main work is federal her constituents are not. For example she could contact the district managers and police authorities to demand action but there is no evidence that she has or intends to.

Just a quick perplexity search (it seems does work for her constituents...you may disagree with her approach and that's fine...but she is doing something)

Stand Up to Violence (SUV) Program: In 2022, she secured nearly $400,000 for Jacobi Hospital's SUV program, which already deploys outreach workers to respond to shootings and prevent retaliation, assists family members affected by violence, and mentors at-risk youth with educational and job opportunities. This funding adds a mental health component to the program, which has been shown to decrease recurrence of violence by over 50%.

Public Safety

Congresswoman Ocasio-Cortez's approach to public safety centers investing in our most vulnerable communities to break cyc

ocasio-cortez.house.gov

wing2000 · 2025-07-18T15:44:37-0500

Hentenza said:
Again, immaterial. Has she tried to increase the funding to fight the tremendous increase in crime in her district?

Is is material to the thread title. The last time I checked, the city government is accountable for public saftey in her district.

Hentenza · 2025-07-18T15:46:45-0500

wing2000 said:
Just a quick perplexity search (it seems does work for her constituents...you may disagree with her approach and that's fine...but she is doing something)

Stand Up to Violence (SUV) Program: In 2022, she secured nearly $400,000 for Jacobi Hospital's SUV program, which already deploys outreach workers to respond to shootings and prevent retaliation, assists family members affected by violence, and mentors at-risk youth with educational and job opportunities. This funding adds a mental health component to the program, which has been shown to decrease recurrence of violence by over 50%.

Public Safety

Congresswoman Ocasio-Cortez's approach to public safety centers investing in our most vulnerable communities to break cyc

ocasio-cortez.house.gov

I don’t disagree but that was back in 2022. The crime rate has continued to increase tremendously. She needs to do much much more.

Hentenza · 2025-07-18T15:48:44-0500

wing2000 said:
Is is material to the thread title. The last time I checked, the city government is accountable for public saftey in her district.

Are you just throwing darts in the dark? Have you not read any posts in this thread? Read my post 102.

wing2000 · 2025-07-18T15:57:38-0500

Hentenza said:
Are you just throwing darts in the dark? Have you not read any posts in this thread? Read my post 102.

Yes, I read it. My points stands: Members of Congress are not responsible for public safety in their districts.

The thread title and supporting article is nothing more than a political hit piece. Fox chose to add "AOC" to get more cliqbait.

"AOC's 'Red Light' district ruled by violent migrant gang taken down by feds"

Hentenza · 2025-07-18T16:00:46-0500

wing2000 said:
Yes, I read it. My points stands: Members of Congress are not responsible for public safety in their districts.

The thread title and supporting article is nothing more than a political hit piece. Fox chose to add "AOC" to get more cliqbait.

"AOC's 'Red Light' district ruled by violent migrant gang taken down by feds"

Read my post 20. :doh:

ETA: your claim that your post stands would only be true if you just completely ignored what I wrote In post 102.

Pommer · 2025-07-18T16:02:58-0500

Hentenza said:
Again, immaterial. Has she tried to increase the funding to fight the tremendous increase in crime in her district?

Oh lookie, the homicide rate of Louisiana (home to the Speaker-of-the-House) is 4 times the level of New York…what is Mike johnson doing to mitigate that dismal statistic?

BCP1928 · 2025-07-18T16:05:37-0500

Hentenza said:
“Members serve as advocates for the views and needs of their constituents as well as stewards of national interests. Representational work may involve legislative activity, such as analyzing the provisions of proposed legislation for their potential impact on the area represented, or constituent service activity, such as assisting individuals, local governments, and organizations in obtaining federal grants and benefits. In addition, Members might represent regional and national interests in matters which might come before Congress.”

https://www.congress.gov/crs-product/RL33686

She is not serving as advocate for the needs of her constituents. Even if her main work is federal her constituents are not. For example she could contact the district managers and police authorities to demand action but there is no evidence that she has or intends to.

Fair enough. I don’t live there so I did not know also.

And apparently you don't know what she has done about it, either, and don't particularly care to find out. But I do notice that the cops have busted the 18th St. gang, which was driving much of the crime in her district, so maybe you'll just have to find something else to rag on her about.

Hentenza · 2025-07-18T16:16:49-0500

BCP1928 said:
And apparently you don't know what she has done about it, either, and don't particularly care to find out. But I do notice that the cops have busted the 18th St. gang, which was driving much of the crime in her district, so maybe you'll just have to find something else to rag on her about.
.

I’m going to continue to “rag” on her. Glad the cops finally did something or wait it was not the cops but the feds. Do you think she called them? Maybe she is getting smarter.

Hank77 · 2025-07-18T16:24:42-0500

Hentenza said:
“Members serve as advocates for the views and needs of their constituents as well as stewards of national interests. Representational work may involve legislative activity, such as analyzing the provisions of proposed legislation for their potential impact on the area represented, or constituent service activity, such as assisting individuals, local governments, and organizations in obtaining federal grants and benefits. In addition, Members might represent regional and national interests in matters which might come before Congress.”

Do actions such as this count?

On April 15, 2021, Ocasio-Cortez and three members of Congress called a press conference to announce a bill that they had introduced to implement postal banking pilot programs in rural and low-income urban neighborhoods where millions of households cannot access or afford standard banking services. Ocasio-Cortez described the families she sees in her urban community who need to rely on check cashing companies that charge exorbitant interest rates due to the absence of mainstream banks.

Alexandria Ocasio-Cortez - Wikipedia

en.wikipedia.org

Ocasio-Cortez reacted to the 2021 Texas power crisis by organizing a fundraiser to provide food, water, and shelter to affected Texans. The fundraiser, which began on February 18, raised $2 million in its first day[234][235] and $5 million by February 21.[236] The money was given to organizations such as the Houston Food Bank and the North Texas Food Bank.[236] Ocasio-Cortez also traveled to Houston to help volunteers with recovery.[237]

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