the Latin versus the Teutonic Brain

Larniavc · Friday at 4:04 AM

Ligurian said:
Unlike the book-writers, I don't need to seek approval to get published.

An can therefor say pretty much anything you like without having to think too hard about its veracity.

Warden_of_the_Storm · Friday at 4:06 AM

Larniavc said:
An can therefor say pretty much anything you like without having to think too hard about its veracity.

Like Graham Hancock.

Larniavc · Friday at 4:17 AM

Warden_of_the_Storm said:
there is no place called Hyperborea.

Oh yeah? Well where did Arnold Schwarzenegger and Darth Vader come from then?

Warden_of_the_Storm · Friday at 4:19 AM

Larniavc said:
Oh yeah? Well where did Arnold Schwarzenegger and Darth Vader come from then?

As a Robert E Howard fan (moreso Solomon Kane than Conan, have to admit), that was the Hyborian Age, not Hyperborea. However, there is the Hypberborean cycle in the extended Lovecraft mythos.

Larniavc · Friday at 4:25 AM

Warden_of_the_Storm said:
Like Graham Hancock.

Funnily enough I’ve read Entangled: The Eater of Souls. It was fun.

But so was Mission: Earth and Battlefield Earth.

Larniavc · Friday at 4:27 AM

Warden_of_the_Storm said:
As a Robert E Howard fan (moreso Solomon Kane than Conan, have to admit), that was the Hyborian Age, not Hyperborea. However, there is the Hypberborean cycle in the extended Lovecraft mythos.

Bah! Hoist by my own hubris. I shall be mindful of the difference in the future

Warden_of_the_Storm · Friday at 4:30 AM

Larniavc said:
Funnily enough I’ve read Entangled: The Eater of Souls. It was fun.

But so was Mission: Earth and Battlefield Earth.

I've only watched the Milo Rossi and Professor Dave videos that really break down his arguments. Can't post them here since the two are very fast and loose with the language, but they're worth a watch.

mindlight · Friday at 7:08 AM

Ligurian said:
the Latin versus the Teutonic Brain

"The Latin (and Levantine) brain visualises the conclusion before it has collected all the premisses: it is therefore too intelligent to be archaeologically minded.
The Teutonic brain, on the contrary, is content to inspect all its hurdles before jumping them. It is willing to collect evidence even though it never draws any conclusions. And the mere collection of evidence was the first and greatest necessity before archaeology could become useful and effective. Winckelmann was a splendid instance of the unhurried Teutonic temperament brought into prolonged contact with the versatile and volatile humanistic traditions of Italy."
"That is one reason why it has taken so long to breed archaeologists among the Latin races of Europe to-day."
--Rhys Carpenter, Humanistic Value of Archaeology, Vol. 4, p. 3-4.

Anyone else think this is the truth?
And maybe see this as an explanation for the differences between the "Latin races of Europe to-day" and the Teutonic Germans?
What he means by intelligence: "It is difficult for a person of quick wit and lively intellect to become a good archaeologist."

The background and era of this book, in the 1930s, in the build-up to war, was heavily influenced by various racial theories from the Nazis, from British Imperialists, and from Americans in the era of Ellis Island racial profiling. That said, my take on the observation made here and from living in Germany is that "method" is indeed built into the culture, while a lot of Latin cultures have a more holistic perspective. It is part of what makes Germans great engineers. The archaeologist is required to follow a systematic and methodological approach if he is going to be taken seriously and someone who simply jumps to conclusions that fit a wider perception of reality but remain unproven will be taken less seriously, though they may well be more entertaining.

Warden_of_the_Storm · Friday at 7:47 AM

mindlight said:
The background and era of this book, in the 1930s, in the build-up to war, was heavily influenced by various racial theories from the Nazis, from British Imperialists, and from Americans in the era of Ellis Island racial profiling.

That issue was pointed out heavily in the very first comments of the thread, but it was brushed aside, and it's something that does heavily need to be pointed out for this sort of thinking.

Ophiolite · 2025-07-19T05:12:38-0500

Warden_of_the_Storm said:
And why is it still seemingly impossible for you to use any source written in the last 50 years or so?

I was about to invest a substantial amount of time in responding to his latest (and considerably delayed) reply to one of my posts, but the executive summary is captured concisely in your remark.

I would add, a point you also made earlier, that he responds - not to what is said - but to what he thinks was said, or would like to have been said, or just aligns best with what he wants to say. It's not a discussion, it's an individual who insists upon bringing a leather football to an F1 race: it's the wrong equipment and its outdated.

I'm all for diversity in thinking, but some people abuse the privilege!

Nithavela · 2025-07-20T00:05:21-0500

Ligurian said:
A better question to ask is this: WHEN were the Druids in Britain?

Hundreds of years before the dawn of history.

Kathleen30 · 2025-07-20T00:21:39-0500

Ligurian said:
the Latin versus the Teutonic Brain

"The Latin (and Levantine) brain visualises the conclusion before it has collected all the premisses: it is therefore too intelligent to be archaeologically minded.
The Teutonic brain, on the contrary, is content to inspect all its hurdles before jumping them. It is willing to collect evidence even though it never draws any conclusions. And the mere collection of evidence was the first and greatest necessity before archaeology could become useful and effective. Winckelmann was a splendid instance of the unhurried Teutonic temperament brought into prolonged contact with the versatile and volatile humanistic traditions of Italy."
"That is one reason why it has taken so long to breed archaeologists among the Latin races of Europe to-day."
--Rhys Carpenter, Humanistic Value of Archaeology, Vol. 4, p. 3-4.

Anyone else think this is the truth?
And maybe see this as an explanation for the differences between the "Latin races of Europe to-day" and the Teutonic Germans?
What he means by intelligence: "It is difficult for a person of quick wit and lively intellect to become a good archaeologist."

I’m not sure if it was a Germanic problem . I think Archaeology really came into being in the 18th century and Germany certainly had many museums from the ancient worlds their archaeologists had explored and evaluated just as much as Europe and the UK did at the same time

Ophiolite · 2025-07-20T01:28:39-0500

Nithavela said:
Hundreds of years before the dawn of history.

Well, hundreds of years before historical records were kept (or, at least, survived) in the British Isles. The Druids originated in the Iron Age, so say around 500 BCE. Thus, their alleged association with the building of numerous Neolithic and Bronze Age megaliths is purest fantasy. The nutters** who turn up for the Summer Solstice at Stonehenge are the original practitioners of cultural appropriation!

** It's a technical term in anthropology.

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