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Hey, if they can't ram a car occupied by a US citizen and his family, what's the point?ICE agents ram car to take man into custody in Boyle Heights
A man was arrested in Boyle Heights Wednesday morning after ICE agents rammed into his car and pinned it between two unmarked cars.abc7.com
No doubt the America-hating left will protest this one, too.
That you would accuse him of such a thing without the least bit of evidence is sick.
What "red and blue?" These were unmarked cars without light bars.
That doesn't make sense - is ICE authorized to arrest US citizens? That seems like the job of the LAPD. We don't know if they had a warrant or not since none was shown.
Did he actually flee, though? Did they have a siren and flashing lights? He hasn't been proven to be either violent or a felon or a danger to police. But he is a citizen.
Are ICE officers allowed to arrest citizens at all?
That he had his wife, small child and babe in arms in the car goes against the narrative of him fleeing. ICE officers are not police.
You're assuming that lights were flashing. Do you have evidence of it?
www.latimes.com
I would say yes they do when citizens are and have attacked them.
HE endangered his own family by fleeing. He should be charged with that. I'm not saying they should have gassed them. I dont know the circumstances. But if they knew there was a child in the car, I would say they were completely in the wrong to have gassed them.
Do you have evidence rhey weren't? It far more likely based upon nationwide and federal policies that they were than weren't. If you are going to insinuate that maybe they weren't then you need to show that, otherwise we can more likely believe they were as they were trying to stop him.
Federal agents use vehicles to trap and arrest driver in Boyle Heights, leaving child and passenger behind
Video shows two SUVs trapping the Mercedes as it turns right, with the second vehicle pushing its bumper into the sedan before federal agents jump out with guns drawn.
John Lopez was working at City of Angels Fire Protection on Whittier Boulevard this morning when he saw what appeared to be a car crash in front of the store. Outside, he saw a car pinned between two trucks and a plume of unidentifiable smoke rise from behind the car.“I thought at first it might be ICE, but I didn’t think it could be because they wouldn’t do that for normal civilians, like, pin them,” Lopez said. “There were kids involved inside that car, and it is scary to think about,” Lopez said.Witnesses say during the arrest, officials dispersed a “chemical-smelling” smoke near the vehicle while the woman and child were still inside. It is unclear what the smoke was.
You would say that without knowing?
Told by whom? Themselves, who have access to the evidence but decline to show it? Government has been known to lie before; it's not inconceivable that they are lying about this as well. It's not up to me to prove they didn't because 1) I don't claim to know either way and 2) they rather than I have access to the evidence.
Two children, a toddler and a little baby. We don't know yet that he was fleeing. You say you don't know the circumstances but you're arguing as though you do.
We're agreed on this.
No, but I haven't claimed either way except to say it seems unlikely because of the children and unusual because the cars were unmarked, without lights or sirens - as far as I know. Until I learn otherwise, I don't know. This story is still breaking.
Is that the royal we or do you have a mouse in your pocket? They left the scene of the crash they deliberately caused, according to eye witnesses and police, and absconded with the citizen to places unknown. Why not hand him over to the actual police if this is on the up and up?
I do have evidence.
Unmarked units dont have light bars. They have lights in the windshield. Even LA has them.
I guess I did. But you dont even know if it was ICE. And you made the claim without knowing.
Faur enough. So why be so concerned about something you dont really know anything about?
Sure, because we have a statement that says so. Thats more than you have.
But you dont know. Its far more likely they did than didn't.
Me and Mickey.
Federal officers have arrest powers. They dont have any need to hand him over to anyone.
ICE has said so.
Because it seems pretty fishy, even with your lame excuses
A statement from ICE.
That is questionable. The power of ICE to arrest US citizens for non-immigration offenses is quite limited.
Yes, if a citizen attacks them while they're in the line of duty.
Thank goodness there are fewer America hating left than America hating right.ICE agents ram car to take man into custody in Boyle Heights
A man was arrested in Boyle Heights Wednesday morning after ICE agents rammed into his car and pinned it between two unmarked cars.
No doubt the America-hating left will protest this one, too.
ICE agents are not police officers and have limited arrest authority. It would be very strange for a judge to grant a warrant for them to arrest an American citizen. They would hand it over to the local police or FBI, depending on the alleged crime.ICE agents ram car to take man into custody in Boyle Heights
A man was arrested in Boyle Heights Wednesday morning after ICE agents rammed into his car and pinned it between two unmarked cars.
No doubt the America-hating left will protest this one, too.
Yes, ICE agents can arrest someone for hitting a CBP (Customs and Border Protection) officer if the incident falls within their jurisdiction or involves a federal crime. Assaulting a federal officer, such as a CBP officer, is a federal offense under 18 U.S.C. § 111, which prohibits assaulting, resisting, or impeding certain federal officers while they perform their duties.
I had several incidents where people who committed crimes (including robbery) fled with children and infants in their cars.
