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Beware the leaven of the false teachers of the wildly popular movement amongst the Christian community known as "Life Surge".

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I'm very sad to say this, folks, because of one speaker involved here I respect - whom I know now has become compromised.

I'm making this appeal to believers and unbelievers alike (amongst which are genuine seekers whom God is drawing). This is said in recognition of the dignity and respect due you as fellow flawed human beings - no better or worse than each other - but whose destination is set by an autonomous choice to accept or reject Jesus Christ as Lord and Savior.

Behold a few of the world's sheep in wolves clothing. Pray for them but in the next millisecond flee from them - as Paul instructs even Christians to flee - for they are idols seeking worship and riches for Almighty Self.

This is a prosperity-gospel-above-all organization, folks. Avoid it like the poisoned plague that it is. But again, pray for these false teachers. They prioritize health, wealth, fame, popularity in the eyes of man - basically the things treasured above God in this temporal world - making their "gospel" no different than any other philosophy or false religion inspired by the depths of Hell.

View carefully, be warned, and then delete!


Salvation through Jesus as He is EXACTLY portrayed and recorded in Holy Scripture is to be preached above ALL and as the only EXCLUSIVE essential doctrine that MUST be preached.

Jesus makes it very simple to discern the difference if we remain on our spiritual toes, dying daily to self, seeking HIS wisdom in His Word and prayer DAILY, and always bearing in mind that our top priority is this life is to be Ambassadors for Christ - obeying Him in ever seeking to first love God, enabling us to love others second - both always in priority above ourselves. This is, in fact, the very definition of loving ourselves, by conforming to the image of our hero - the Man/God with the heart of a Servant of all - like His Father.

Our reward from this obedience? The privilege of being declared... His friend.

Did you ever just want one, truly good and loyal friend, folks? He's knocking on the door of your heart - He always has been - and will continue to do so till you draw your last breath. After that, NONE of us will have an excuse left. If you haven't, received Jesus, do so today, friend. Real friends care about your eternal soul - and tell you the TRUTH.

Proverbs 27:6
King James Version

"Faithful are the wounds of a friend; but the kisses of an enemy are deceitful."

Now back to my admonition about false teachers...

DON'T just take my word for it. Test everything you hear against Holy Scriptures - and nothing will distract you from remaining on the narrow path that leads straight through this dying world and into the presence of your loving Creator and eternal life with Him and all his redeemed children.

1 Corintinthians 1:22-25
King James Version

"For the Jews require a sign, and the Greeks seek after wisdom:

"But we preach Christ crucified, unto the Jews a stumblingblock, and unto the Greeks foolishness;

But unto them which are called, both Jews and Greeks, Christ the power of God, and the wisdom of God.

Because the foolishness of God is wiser than men; and the weakness of God is stronger than men."

1 Corinthians 2:1-16 KJV

"Corinthians 2:1-
King James Version

2 And I, brethren, when I came to you, came not with excellency of speech or of wisdom, declaring unto you the testimony of God.

2 For I determined not to know any thing among you, save Jesus Christ, and him crucified.

3 And I was with you in weakness, and in fear, and in much trembling.

4 And my speech and my preaching was not with enticing words of man's wisdom, but in demonstration of the Spirit and of power:

5 That your faith should not stand in the wisdom of men, but in the power of God.

6 Howbeit we speak wisdom among them that are perfect: yet not the wisdom of this world, nor of the princes of this world, that come to nought:

7 But we speak the wisdom of God in a mystery, even the hidden wisdom, which God ordained before the world unto our glory:

8 Which none of the princes of this world knew: for had they known it, they would not have crucified the Lord of glory.

9 But as it is written, Eye hath not seen, nor ear heard, neither have entered into the heart of man, the things which God hath prepared for them that love him.

10 But God hath revealed them unto us by his Spirit: for the Spirit searcheth all things, yea, the deep things of God.

11 For what man knoweth the things of a man, save the spirit of man which is in him? even so the things of God knoweth no man, but the Spirit of God.

12 Now we have received, not the spirit of the world, but the spirit which is of God; that we might know the things that are freely given to us of God.

13 Which things also we speak, not in the words which man's wisdom teacheth, but which the Holy Ghost teacheth; comparing spiritual things with spiritual.

14 But the natural man receiveth not the things of the Spirit of God: for they are foolishness unto him: neither can he know them, because they are spiritually discerned.

15 But he that is spiritual judgeth all things, yet he himself is judged of no man.

16 For who hath known the mind of the Lord, that he may instruct him? but we have the mind of Christ."

God bless us all who will believe!
 

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I don't like judging a book by its cover but sometimes you get an impression of what is really going on. To me just the looks of this movement, its slick and groomed presentation, almost Hollywood like makes me skeptical. I have seen similar in churches like Hillsong and the like where its almost a Hollywood production and more about a sales pitch than about the true spirit of God.

To me even having such expensive cloths, material things and all the trimmings that go with it is a give away. If we are to truely follow Christ and store up our riches in Heaven and to love others as ourselves even putting others before us then we should be preaching in sack cloths. We should have humble surroundings and not the glow and glitter of this world.

Its as simple as that. It seems some want the best of both worlds becoming like the world to win the world. Theres a fine line and I think as fallen people we have this tendency to fool ourselves that 3/4 of a sacrifice is good enough. I don't think we are strong enough to be like the world and not be taken in by it. We have an incredible ability to rationalise falsehoods believing it is the truth when its an elaborate lie.

Thats why I think KISS is important. Keep it simple stupid and don't compromise the simple message. Put your money where your mouth is. I reckon pooling just the money from the expensive looks and productions is enough to help a bunch of people in a real way which would be reflecting Christ rather than reflecting the success of some lifestyle religion.
 
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I'm very sad to say this, folks, because of one speaker involved here I respect - whom I know now has become compromised.

I'm making this appeal to believers and unbelievers alike (amongst which are genuine seekers whom God is drawing). This is said in recognition of the dignity and respect due you as fellow flawed human beings - no better or worse than each other - but whose destination is set by an autonomous choice to accept or reject Jesus Christ as Lord and Savior.

Behold a few of the world's sheep in wolves clothing. Pray for them but in the next millisecond flee from them - as Paul instructs even Christians to flee - for they are idols seeking worship and riches for Almighty Self.

This is a prosperity-gospel-above-all organization, folks. Avoid it like the poisoned plague that it is. But again, pray for these false teachers. They prioritize health, wealth, fame, popularity in the eyes of man - basically the things treasured above God in this temporal world - making their "gospel" no different than any other philosophy or false religion inspired by the depths of Hell.

View carefully, be warned, and then delete!


Salvation through Jesus as He is EXACTLY portrayed and recorded in Holy Scripture is to be preached above ALL and as the only EXCLUSIVE essential doctrine that MUST be preached.

Jesus makes it very simple to discern the difference if we remain on our spiritual toes, dying daily to self, seeking HIS wisdom in His Word and prayer DAILY, and always bearing in mind that our top priority is this life is to be Ambassadors for Christ - obeying Him in ever seeking to first love God, enabling us to love others second - both always in priority above ourselves. This is, in fact, the very definition of loving ourselves, by conforming to the image of our hero - the Man/God with the heart of a Servant of all - like His Father.

Our reward from this obedience? The privilege of being declared... His friend.

Did you ever just want one, truly good and loyal friend, folks? He's knocking on the door of your heart - He always has been - and will continue to do so till you draw your last breath. After that, NONE of us will have an excuse left. If you haven't, received Jesus, do so today, friend. Real friends care about your eternal soul - and tell you the TRUTH.

Proverbs 27:6
King James Version

"Faithful are the wounds of a friend; but the kisses of an enemy are deceitful."

Now back to my admonition about false teachers...

DON'T just take my word for it. Test everything you hear against Holy Scriptures - and nothing will distract you from remaining on the narrow path that leads straight through this dying world and into the presence of your loving Creator and eternal life with Him and all his redeemed children.

1 Corintinthians 1:22-25
King James Version

"For the Jews require a sign, and the Greeks seek after wisdom:

"But we preach Christ crucified, unto the Jews a stumblingblock, and unto the Greeks foolishness;

But unto them which are called, both Jews and Greeks, Christ the power of God, and the wisdom of God.

Because the foolishness of God is wiser than men; and the weakness of God is stronger than men."

1 Corinthians 2:1-16 KJV

"Corinthians 2:1-
King James Version

2 And I, brethren, when I came to you, came not with excellency of speech or of wisdom, declaring unto you the testimony of God.

2 For I determined not to know any thing among you, save Jesus Christ, and him crucified.

3 And I was with you in weakness, and in fear, and in much trembling.

4 And my speech and my preaching was not with enticing words of man's wisdom, but in demonstration of the Spirit and of power:

5 That your faith should not stand in the wisdom of men, but in the power of God.

6 Howbeit we speak wisdom among them that are perfect: yet not the wisdom of this world, nor of the princes of this world, that come to nought:

7 But we speak the wisdom of God in a mystery, even the hidden wisdom, which God ordained before the world unto our glory:

8 Which none of the princes of this world knew: for had they known it, they would not have crucified the Lord of glory.

9 But as it is written, Eye hath not seen, nor ear heard, neither have entered into the heart of man, the things which God hath prepared for them that love him.

10 But God hath revealed them unto us by his Spirit: for the Spirit searcheth all things, yea, the deep things of God.

11 For what man knoweth the things of a man, save the spirit of man which is in him? even so the things of God knoweth no man, but the Spirit of God.

12 Now we have received, not the spirit of the world, but the spirit which is of God; that we might know the things that are freely given to us of God.

13 Which things also we speak, not in the words which man's wisdom teacheth, but which the Holy Ghost teacheth; comparing spiritual things with spiritual.

14 But the natural man receiveth not the things of the Spirit of God: for they are foolishness unto him: neither can he know them, because they are spiritually discerned.

15 But he that is spiritual judgeth all things, yet he himself is judged of no man.

16 For who hath known the mind of the Lord, that he may instruct him? but we have the mind of Christ."

God bless us all who will believe!
Thanks for the info!

Pretty simple, they want your $$$ to attend their events, scripture covers that section too

2 Peter 2:3KJV
3 And through covetousness shall they with feigned words make merchandise of you: whose judgment now of a long time lingereth not, and their damnation slumbereth not.
 
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I mentioned this on another thread regarding public figures and it bears repeating. They're using them to target christians to gain their trust. Once you do they'll be able to influence you. We've seen the religious angle and now the financial. But no one asks where is this heading or what's the end goal?

I don't know what they're selling but rest assured there's a catch. The tickets are too cheap. When that's the case there's usually an upsell or they're making it back through the merchandise and books. Financial conferences are more expensive. No one parts with their knowledge for pennies in the industry.

The promos would highlight their net worth, assets under investment or an accolade like NYT Best Seller. They wouldn't try to lure you with a head shot and cheap seats. You see this gimmick in real estate, sales conferences and with motivational speakers.

~bella
 
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