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Media reactions to the Trump verdict in America and other Nations

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I am really fascinated how the American Media shames itself by splitting into two biased group
One group attempts to push a simple unified pro Trump narrative the slowly changes over time
One group attempts to push a simple unified anti Trump narrative the slowly changes over time

Basically the same thing happens in my country Australia, except the news stories are shorter so
One group will say Trump is the historic first convicted president and boy did he criticize the Judge
One group will say the left has managed to convict Trump on Bogus Charges

What happens in your country ?
 

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The American Media has always been biased in that the media does not reflect the actual conditions but rather the prevailing public opinion. But this persecution/prosecution of Trump is unprecedented.
We are all sinners and yes, Trump has most likely sinned
But what is unusual is the government and media going through Melania's underwear drawer and entertaining the likes of Stormy Daniels, even generating the Russian Hoax, and twisting the law to find or even manufacture sin.

That is the Big Picture and frankly, Americans are wondering about the absolute hatred originating, promoted and hyped by the government and main stream media.

The only answer I can guess is that the agencies and government entities are looting the treasury. Any outsider might demand an accounting or change the rules so the looters would be cut out.
Where are those Trillions of dollars in government spending going? I don't see any billions, much less trillions spent in my neighborhood.
So Trump or any starry eyed, naive outsider "Mr. Smith" going to Washington threatens the entrenched State, both its power and its gains.
 
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While I agree it's a shame media in America has become so partisan and somewhat dishonest, we should still accentuate the fact that we have a first amendment in place. It behooves all Americans to have a media that keeps us aware of the actions of members of government in the first place. I think it's essential for the survival of our republic. We see the behavior many of these elected leaders in media and their actions are often unbelievable, even when cameras are on. Imagine how corrupt these unqualified leaders would be if we couldn't see their actions? The problem now is voters who reward bad behavior, which is counterproductive to effective government.

Our country couldn't survive without freedom of the press. And as long as the market can sustain manufactured, partisan news entertainment this is apparently what delicate Americans need for peace of mind. Nevermind the divisive chaos resulting from misleading media to American society, as long as {Staff Edit} can sleep at nite. Americans are selfish and totally spoiled. I think that's likely why democracies don't seem to last more than 250 years. People who are pampered get soft and spoiled. They want what they want, when they want it.

As to the Trump narrative changing over time, I think not. The man was never fit for the office of our presidency and this man is even less fit for office presently. He will have to show his minions his unfitness, and this will definitely happen before the election. Many trumpers still won't be able to see his unfitness. It doesn't matter. Donald Trump cannot withstand the accountability or responsibility heading his way for his reprehensible behavior. Neither can his misguided fans. It's the epitome of foolishness to choose to believe 34 criminal convictions (54? more charges to go) will increase support for Donald Trump and propel him to another presidency. As if that would be something positive for America or the world lol.

Americans in this polarized environment seem to have too much unresolved anger and too little joy in their lives. The world of Donald Trump seems bereft of joy. Unfortunately, for his terribly misguided cult of bad personality.
 
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The American Media has always been biased in that the media does not reflect the actual conditions but rather the prevailing public opinion.

I'll agree that there has been bias but, as a general rule, it hasn't been political bias -- it has been "if it bleeds it leads" type of bias. The issue, from what I've seen of the media over the last several decades, is Fox News came in to particularly tell Republicans what Republicans wanted to hear -- and Republicans tuned it to get news that was specifically slanted for them.

With Fox doing so well in the ratings, getting so many to watch their obviously slanted coverage, other companies started doing their own slants, with several doing more of a Democratic bias since Fox seemingly had Republicans locked up. And we are too a point where many think unslanted, neutral coverage is biased because it doesn't agree with what they hear from their slanted News sources.

And that is still on top of the "if it bleeds it leads" slant to the news -- which leads to people thinking crime, particularly violent crime, is much worse than it actually is -- because it receives outsized coverage from the news.

But this persecution/prosecution of Trump is unprecedented.

Except it isn't. The Clintons are a primary example, with the various investigations they had. I mean, the last investigation of Hillary by Congress (Benghazi) Republicans ran seven different hearings -- and all of them came back with the same information, that there was no actual wrongdoing by Sec. Clinton.

We are all sinners and yes, Trump has most likely sinned
But what is unusual is the government and media going through Melania's underwear drawer

I'll grant that was unprecedented but based on the actions of former Pres. Trump. The issue was that, in a move no former President had ever done, former Pres. Trump did not turn over all Presidential records to the National Archives when his term ended, as the law required. As such, the National Archives followed the law and requested the assistance of the DoJ (which is what the law says to do). Trump refused to work with the DoJ (in fact, his lawyers have stated in affidavits that he was hiding documents from them), causing the DoJ to need to get a search warrant -- at which point they did find many of the documents that had been illegally kept. So, yes, Trump's not adhering with the law was unprecedented.
and entertaining the likes of Stormy Daniels,

Again, Trump brought her into things by deciding, right before the election when he was afraid she may talk, getting her to sign a non-disclosure agreement. That is the only reason she is being "entertained." It would be about like trying to claim it was "the government" causing Monica Lewinsky to be "entertained" because Bill Clinton had an affair with her.

even generating the Russian Hoax,

Sorry, there was no "Russian Hoax," despite the claims. The investigation into Russian ties with the Trump campaign started because of comments made in a bar where it was overheard by a foreign diplomat, who reported it. And there were clear "ties"; things like Paul Manafort giving the campaign's polling data to the Russians, the meeting with the "Russian agent" at Trump tower (per the email that was sent to Don, Jr.), the various conversations with Russian diplomats by people involved in the Trump campaign.

To be honest, Trump was never really investigated for this. Remember how Trump kept stating that he wasn't a target of the FBI investigation? And the Mueller Report specifically talks about how they didn't investigate the President for his involvement.

and twisting the law to find or even manufacture sin.

Or, the fact that Trump has constantly skirted the law -- if not outright broken it -- all through his career. We have reports and lawsuits that show he did not pay contractors and suppliers. Similar to what he has done since then, he would delay as much as possible and, particularly with workers who needed to be pay, they'd end up settling to get some money, but much less than owed, rather than the full amount owed -- they couldn't afford to wait a decade (how long Trump would have delayed, to include appeals) before they got any money.

We've seen, even prior to running for government office, how his companies were found liable for various types of fraud: things like his businesses not renting to minorities, his University, his charity, etc. Again, the issue is Trump has done a lot of legally questionable actions and those things do tend to get investigated -- much like how Whitewater and other actions of the Clinton's were investigated.

That is the Big Picture and frankly, Americans are wondering about the absolute hatred originating, promoted and hyped by the government and main stream media.

The only answer I can guess is that the agencies and government entities are looting the treasury. Any outsider might demand an accounting or change the rules so the looters would be cut out.
Where are those Trillions of dollars in government spending going? I don't see any billions, much less trillions spent in my neighborhood.
So Trump or any starry eyed, naive outsider "Mr. Smith" going to Washington threatens the entrenched State, both its power and its gains.

Actually, there is a lot of accounting for how the government spends money. And, as for your neighborhood, is there anyone retired in your neighborhood? Any military or retired military? A widow or widower? Disabled? What about poor people (or people down on their luck) who are getting government subsidies or funding? Any of the people in your neighborhood work for a business that has a government contract or qualifies for government aid? How many in your neighborhood received some type of COVID payments -- not just the ones give to all citizens -- but received various aid for their business, etc. Is there a local PBS station where you can get their broadcast in your neighborhood?

While likely not in your neighborhood, are there any US highways or Interstates near your neighborhood that you frequently drive? Do you buy gasoline, where the oil companies are subsidized by the US government (though, oddly, you are then taxed on the gasoline, meaning it is the rich oil company that mostly benefits from the subsidies). How much of your local police force is subsidized through the federal government (programs to help put more local officers on the street)?

Though, to be fair, the two big areas are the first few I mentioned -- social benefits (welfare, unemployment, social security, disability, etc.) and the military. The fact is, there is a ton of federal funding in your town, and likely in your neighborhood, if you ever really looked.
 
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The reactions to the Trump verdict have been incredibly diverse, reflecting the polarized nature of current politics. In the U.S., media outlets are sharply divided, with some celebrating the verdict as a triumph of justice, while others decry it as a political witch hunt. Internationally, the responses vary widely based on the political climate and media landscape of each country. It's fascinating to see how this event highlights the global influence of American politics and the varying perceptions of justice and leadership around the world. What are your thoughts on how this will impact international relations?
 
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I am really fascinated how the American Media shames itself by splitting into two biased group
One group attempts to push a simple unified pro Trump narrative the slowly changes over time
One group attempts to push a simple unified anti Trump narrative the slowly changes over time

Basically the same thing happens in my country Australia, except the news stories are shorter so
One group will say Trump is the historic first convicted president and boy did he criticize the Judge
One group will say the left has managed to convict Trump on Bogus Charges

What happens in your country ?
The same thing
 
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