7th April 2003 at 04:53 AM EveOfGrace said this in Post #276
Why not? Where is that written? Being the Son of God does NOT make Jesus God the Son.
Eve, why should "Son of God" MAKE Jesus "God the Son?" Where is that written?
Father gave Jesus all authority, as King, as judge, as Lord and has exalted Him to recieve glory, to rule and reign. No one comes to Father but by Him. Jesus came to earth not to be served, but to serve. Because He CHOSE that position, as servant, to do the work His Father and ours gave Him to do, to save the world, does that take away His divinity?
NOTHING is taken away Eve because Jesus was NEVER God in the first place. The FACT that the Father GAVE Jesus ALL authority, as judge, as Lord and has exalted Him to recieve glory, to rule and reign PROVES that Jesus was NEVER equal to God the Father.
And the FACT that God the Father SENT Jesus to REDEEM the world is another PROOF that Jesus is NOT God.
Eve, LISTEN to what Jesus SAID about himself: "But now you seek to kill ME, a MAN who has told you the TRUTH that I HEARD from God. Abraham did not do this" (John 8:40).
Jesus SAID he is a MAN who HEARD the TRUTH from God. Tell me Eve, if Jesus were God, why did he say that? If he is God himself, why did he have to HEAR the TRUTH from another God? Wasn't he an all-knowing God?
God made Himself lower than the angels, in His Son, that the Son would be exalted in due time. That time is come. His power to forgive, by Himself, and to give life was never removed even when He made Himself lowly, for our sakes. The bible sais that in Him ALL the fullness of the Godhead dwells, bodily. Godhead=deity, having divine nature. He was man, and He IS God.
Jesus did NOT come of himself nor on his own authority. God the Father SENT him. Jesus proceeded forth and CAME from God (John 8:42). Now tell me Eve, if Jesus were God, why did he NOT come on his own authority?
Thus, it was NOT God who BECAME Jesus. Just as John the Baptist was SENT from God (John 1:6), Jesus was likewise SENT from God.
In all our years Jesus has never asked me, "Who is the only true God" because I understand His authority, His divinity, His position within that Godhead.
Of course, Jesus CANNOT talk to you directly Eve because he is NOW in heaven. That was a hypothetical question Eve. I know you tell me that you undertand his authority, his divinity, his position within that "Godhead," but let me ask you again Eve, if Jesus were to come today and ask you, "Who is the ONLY true God? what would your answer be?
I cannot, nor ever could, approach the throne of grace or Father without going through Jesus, they are One. They are both seated in heaven, side by side and there is no other Way to Father than through the Son. Holy Spirit unites us and is also ever present. Jesus isnt a separate or lessor God that i pass up on my way to the true God. I pray in His, Jesus name, that what i petition WILL be done. Everything, and everyone, goes THROUGH Him. He is just as much God as Father is. They are inseparable. They, are God.
Let US make man in OUR image.
So how man Gods do you have Eve? You say that the Father and Jesus are BOTH seated side by side in heaven. If the Father is God and Jesus who is at his side is God, aren't there TWO Gods Eve?
Ed
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