Army Chaplain uses water shortage to his advantage

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Today at 05:24 AM Outspoken said this in Post #21

"Unless of course your in disguise too......."

now that was uncalled for and down right shameful.

I'm sure Auntie understands via the tone of our last couple of interacting posts it was in jest.

So don't get your self annoited panties in a bunch.
 
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Today at 11:31 PM Doctrine1st said this in Post #22



I'm sure Auntie understands via the tone of our last couple of interacting posts it was in jest.



I knew you were joking.:) But hey, we're all in a disguise of sorts, since most of us don't use our real names.:)
 
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Do you have a link to that story? Or is it from a newspaper.
I'd like to have a full read of that article before I say too much on the matter...
... but i'll have a quick word on it anyway .

Personally from what this story says, it sounds like a very bad thing to have done, not helpful. Forgive me if i'm taking it to extremes here but, I think it's giving an implication that to become a saved christian, you must first be baptised.
Salvation is through Jesus Christ alone. Baptism is not a prerequisite.
If through this article, this chaplain is saying that they are "finding themselves in God" from trading water through baptism, then he is compromising the word of God and the gospel of FREE Grace.


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In this dry desert world near Najaf, where the Army V Corps combat support system sprawls across miles of scabrous dust, there's an oasis of sorts: a 500-gallon pool of pristine, cool water.

It belongs to Army chaplain Josh Llano of Houston, who sees the water shortage, which has kept thousands of filthy soldiers from bathing for weeks, as an opportunity.

''It's simple. They want water. I have it, as long as they agree to get baptized,'' he said.

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''You have to be aggressive to help people find themselves in God,'' he said.
 
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Ok thanks for the link.
I'm going to stick with what I said before.
The quotes of what this guy has said is worrying me.
''It's simple. They want water. I have it, as long as they agree to get baptized,''
''They do appear physically and spiritually cleansed,''
''Regardless of their motives,'' Llano said, ``I get the chance to take them closer to the Lord.''
''You have to be aggressive to help people find themselves in God,''
Another worrying thing...
"He calls himself a ''Southern Baptist evangelist,'' and justifies the war and killing with a verse from the Gospel of Matthew, which he often recites: ``Give unto Caesar the things that are Caesar's and unto God the things that are God's. ''This means we are called upon by our government to fight and that is giving unto Caesar, as the Bible tells us,'' he said."
He's very badly misquoting Matthew 22:21, where Jesus is talking about taxes. The pharisees tried to entangle him in his words. Read from Matthew 22:15-22 to get the whole picture.

So yeah, i've had my rant about this. It sounds like he's trading water for the troops to shower in, for them sitting through a 1&1/2 hour sermon and going through a quick baptism, which means nothing to them, they just want a shower. Ok, yes, it's good for them to hear a sermon, but the trade of a baptism for access to the water is just wrong.

...i'm going to stop now...
 
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Today at 12:35 AM Auntie said this in Post #24




I knew you were joking.:) But hey, we're all in a disguise of sorts, since most of us don't use our real names.:)




;) I'm using My real name... uh huh - yes sir ree !!
 
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