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Is it sin to call people by their gender identity, even though I know that men cannot become women and women cannot become men? It is scientifically impossible.

I don't think it's a sin. But I do think it's an absurdity. Mostly -aside from the freakishness of it- because of its completely arbitrary nature.
 
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I don’t know. Society is blurring the lines of everything, trying to make the Bible irrelevant. It’s not but society is. Don’t be too particular about it since we don’t approve, think up alternative words that serve God and yourself better. Act confused, slip up now and then, don’t say much.
 
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It's always been the way of the Adversary. Look at Jesus' time where divisiveness was rampant with pacifism vs revolution, two warring rabbis of the day proclaiming opposing truths, believers of the Kingdom vs those who did not within the Sanhedrin, etc. Rome benefitted from this destabilization as does Corporatism today. At least Jesus in teaching division made it between the world of man and the Kingdom, two opposing worlds..
 
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Is it sin to call people by their gender identity, even though I know that men cannot become women and women cannot become men? It is scientifically impossible.

It's a way of describing people by their personalities instead of their bodies. I don't see sin in that.
 
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I think on this one; you have to follow your conscience. I have a hard time calling people "he" or "she" when I know that's not their true birth sex. To me, it's buying into a lie they want to believe and we don't do that with other people who have psychiatric conditions. We orientate all who are not in truth toward truth (and reality) if we can.

There's only one time I had to deal with someone else's pronouns and I would just refer to the person by their first name. His first name could be either male or female and he didn't legally change his name; though his pronouns were "she" / "her". I just used his first name. If it's a work / school or other situation; and they changed their first name; you could refer to them by "title / last name". "Boss Smith", "Employee Jones", "Principal Bennett", "Student Lopez". Some trans people use first initial middle initial of their legal name. I wouldn't have a problem doing that. When I was in the military, we usually called each other by rank and last name or just last names.
 
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As a Christian, we need to choose our battles.
Sometimes the Holy Spirit will have us make such concessions because His emphasis is elsewhere.
Other times, He will have us be more confrontational on such matters.

But most of the time, it seems irrelevant to me because the pronouns in question are all in the third person. You would not use them in the person's presence, anyway, just "you," which has no gender implications at all. ("Ewe" has, however... ;))

When I speak of my own gender or those of my figure collection, I frame it in Edenic* terms, rather than endorse LGBTQ-speak, like cis-whatever.

*Taken from Genesis 2:24.
 
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you could refer to them by "title / last name". "Boss Smith", "Employee Jones", "Principal Bennett", "Student Lopez"
That's fine unless you are French and have to know the masculine or feminine spelling of the word.
 
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Is it sin to call people by their gender identity, even though I know that men cannot become women and women cannot become men? It is scientifically impossible.
I'm not sure, but it certainly would not sit right with my spirit or conscience to do so.
 
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That's fine unless you are French and have to know the masculine or feminine spelling of the word.
Point well taken; modern English doesn't have masculine and feminine spellings. Though words in German have masculine (der), feminine (die) and neuter (das) versions of "the". English came from German; assuming at some point in past history; those linquistic concepts were understood by early English speakers.

Some one else had made this point too. "Gender" used to mean "related to whether or not word is masculine, feminine or neuter". Today though gender ideology conflates "gender" with biological sex. Clearly though, they are not the same thing.
 
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It is if you believe lying is a sin.
A man is a man. Calling him a women is a lie.
A woman is a woman. Calling her a man is a lie.
One of the big ten.
"Thou shalt not bear false witness..."

“Thou shalt not bear false witness” forbids: “1. Speaking falsely in any matter, lying, equivocating, and any way devising and designing to deceive our neighbour. 2. Speaking unjustly against our neighbour, to the prejudice of his reputation; and (which involves the guilty of both).

Psalm 86:11
“Teach me, O Lord, your ways, that I might walk in your truth/faithfulness.”

Psalms 34:13-14 New International Version (NIV)
...keep your tongue from evil and your lips from telling lies. Turn from evil and do good; seek peace and pursue it.

Proverbs 12:22
22 Lying lips are an abomination to the LORD, but those who act faithfully are his delight.

Playing along with the lies and false religions of the land has the effect of normalizing it. Toady we are seeing a replay of the ancient evils of the OT. To which the Bible says:

Leviticus 18:30 KJV
30. Therefore shall ye keep mine ordinance, that ye commit not any one of these abominable customs,
which were committed before you, and that ye defile not yourselves therein: I am the LORD your God.

Proverbs 6:16-19 KJV
16. These six things doth the LORD hate: yea, seven are an abomination unto him:
17. A proud look, a lying tongue, and hands that shed innocent blood,
18. An heart that deviseth wicked imaginations, feet that be swift in running to mischief,
19. A false witness that speaketh lies, and he that soweth discord among brethren.

Do not contribute to the normalizing of evil in the land by playing along with it. If you cannot fight it, at least do not participate in it.
 
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But I do think it's an absurdity. Mostly -aside from the freakishness of it- because of its completely arbitrary nature.
I think on this one; you have to follow your conscience. I have a hard time calling people "he" or "she" when I know that's not their true birth sex. To me, it's buying into a lie they want to believe and we don't do that with other people who have psychiatric conditions. We orientate all who are not in truth toward truth (and reality) if we can.
I'm not sure, but it certainly would not sit right with my spirit or conscience to do so.
It is if you believe lying is a sin.
A man is a man. Calling him a women is a lie.
A woman is a woman. Calling her a man is a lie.
One of the big ten.
"Thou shalt not bear false witness..."
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Is it sin to call people by their gender identity, even though I know that men cannot become women and women cannot become men? It is scientifically impossible.
We are in uncharted waters when it comes to gender dysphoria. So choose the loving way. We don't know what the future holds for that person. Blessings.
 
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If I was with a group and there was someone acting like they have a lot of money when they don't, am I supposed to tell everyone their house is empty except for a mattress? How about if an insecure friend tells everyone they might get promoted when they were really laid off? If I overhear a person getting asked how they are doing, and they say they are doing better than ever, am I responsible for informing everyone they've went to rehab twice and I saw a 40 oz. in their car? What if I hear someone talking about morals and I know they cheated on two different people in the past and the last one was a month ago?

Some would say that people's personal life is their own business. Many would argue that you should only share that sort of thing in a relevant situation and do it away from others. Like if someone was romantically interested in someone, maybe you give them an idea of that person's struggles. Similarly, you might do the same if they were flirting with a trans person and didn't know they were trans. But if people are just hanging out I don't see the point in disagreeing with who someone says they are.
 
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