What is the sudden attraction to children?

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Not even close to being the same.
A man putting on makeup and costume to look like a woman--and a very bad representation of one at that?
No different from a white person putting on black makeup to make himself look like a black person.
 
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It is fairly fringe. They are not seeking a "position of trust" - these events are well-chaperoned. In the school events, there are plenty of librarians, teachers and aides in attendance. The brunches are paid, ticketed events - children are there only with a guardian. Yes, of course they are entertainers, but Broadway shows are extremely rare and expensive with Off-Off-Off-Broadway less so. Some traveling circuses do have clowns in drag, but that is not for most people as it is grueling.

If they do not seek the position of trust, who seeks them to do drag shows ar schools and stuff?
Hey, Drag Queen friend of mine, want to do a drag show at the elementary school?!
Are you kidding? And by what do you mean that the shows are well chaperoned? By who? By the Librarians, Teachers and Aides? If the drag queens wasn't seeking an audience with children to do shows at the school, then why do they need to be chaperoned in the first place?
Is the Teachers, Librarians and Aids, primary function at these events to act as security for the children? Or ar they a bunch of underpaid people who had a show thrust on them? (This is what we do Fridy, some drag queens are coming in to put on a show for the kids, your on security for that event...??)

Can you be a little bit more clear about why this is even taking place and who is organizing these shows?

I think they used to run weird shows out of town. Nowadays we are opening our schools to them.
 
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How in the worl can I be expected (as a normal citizen) to know drag queen statistics or anything like that?
You’re literally using the internet when you ask that question.

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If they do not seek the position of trust, who seeks them to do drag shows ar schools and stuff?
Hey, Drag Queen friend of mine, want to do a drag show at the elementary school?!
Are you kidding? And by what do you mean that the shows are well chaperoned? By who? By the Librarians, Teachers and Aides? If the drag queens wasn't seeking an audience with children to do shows at the school, then why do they need to be chaperoned in the first place?
Is the Teachers, Librarians and Aids, primary function at these events to act as security for the children? Or ar they a bunch of underpaid people who had a show thrust on them? (This is what we do Fridy, some drag queens are coming in to put on a show for the kids, your on security for that event...??)
I don't know who organizes school and library events. Even planners?

Can you be a little bit more clear about why this is even taking place and who is organizing these shows?
How would I know - I'm not involved in these activities. I believe form the schools' and libraries' perspective this ides is to get children interested in books and reading. The brunches are to draw in customers.

I think they used to run weird shows out of town.
Huh, maybe. By run them out of town, do you mean chase them out with violence? That's not a good thing for freedom of speech.

Nowadays we are opening our schools to them.
Are "they" the same "them"?
 
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We have had cross dressers and drag queens almost for as long as we have been a country. They have been in movies, in vaudeville, shows (Remember Rue Paul?) televisions shows etc. But in the last 18 months they have been attracted to children (I am NOT speaking sexually) (repeat, I AM NOT SPEAKING SEXUALLLY) (REPEAT, I AM NOT SPEAKING SEXUALLY).

My curiosity asks why? I'm not asking if it is right or wrong - I am asking what is their motivation to read books to children?

It's just so antithetical to their purposes and audiences of the past. Their mission has always been entertaining and titillating mostly a male dominated adult audience.

What is their purpose?
The same can be said for teachers or anyone that interact with kids. What's their motive. Is it to teach them? Or are they sexually attracted to kids? If you don't want your kids to have to have reading time a time with a drag queen. Don't let them go.
 
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How would I know - I'm not involved in these activities. I believe form the schools' and libraries' perspective this ides is to get children interested in books and reading. The brunches are to draw in customers.
Back in the good old days, that was the job of English teachers and librarians. Why is it now the job of gay bar performers?
 
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Back in the good old days, that was the job of English teachers and librarians. Why is it now the job of gay bar performers?
Gay bar performers? They have families too.

Why make reading less entertaining? It's not something I enjoy, but if others derive benefit from attending, why not.

It seems like it would have been a passing fad, but now it is a thing. :oldthumbsup:
 
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Gay bar performers? They have families too.

Why make reading less entertaining? It's not something I enjoy, but if others derive benefit from attending, why not.

It seems like it would have been a passing fad, but now it is a thing. :oldthumbsup:
How does not having a gay bar performer in a school classroom with children make reading a book less entertaining?
 
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We have had cross dressers and drag queens almost for as long as we have been a country. They have been in movies, in vaudeville, shows (Remember Rue Paul?) televisions shows etc. But in the last 18 months they have been attracted to children (I am NOT speaking sexually) (repeat, I AM NOT SPEAKING SEXUALLLY) (REPEAT, I AM NOT SPEAKING SEXUALLY).

My curiosity asks why? I'm not asking if it is right or wrong - I am asking what is their motivation to read books to children?

It's just so antithetical to their purposes and audiences of the past. Their mission has always been entertaining and titillating mostly a male dominated adult audience.

What is their purpose?
I pose the argument that it may actually have a sexual component to it. Even though drag queens don't claim a letter in the LGBT alphabet soup, their own organizations openly admit that they are connected.
A quote from one of their own sites which I won't link to:

IT ALL STARTED WHEN...​

A high school math teacher and advisor to the Gender and Sexuality Alliance organized the first drag show at Mission High School with a courageous group of high schoolers.

From there, a group of drag queens began to help with the drag show and we decided to become a 501c3 in order to raise money for scholarships for LGBTQ+ youth.
 
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How does not having a gay bar performer in a school classroom with children make reading a book less entertaining?
I don't know why you insist on "gay bar performer" as if every drag queen must be gay and perform in bars. Is there some union that stipulates that? Not in Texas, I would guess.

Drag queens are flamboyant and funny. Many are professional entertainers, but for all I know, there may be amateurs as well or those who entertain family and friends. The idea is to entertain. School libraries tend to be fairly quiet and dull places, ime; and now even more so with all the book bannings.
 
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I don't know why you insist on "gay bar performer" as if every drag queen must be gay and perform in bars. Is there some union that stipulates that? Not in Texas, I would guess.

Drag queens are flamboyant and funny. Many are professional entertainers, but for all I know, there may be amateurs as well or those who entertain family and friends. The idea is to entertain. School libraries tend to be fairly quiet and dull places, ime; and now even more so with all the book bannings.
I don't insist on it. A writer for Teen Vogue is the one who affirmed it to be the case:

"Once at home only in dimly-lit gay bars after sundown, drag performers have recently stepped into the spotlight as mainstream media stars, thanks largely to Emmy Award-winning television series RuPaul’s Drag Race, which debuted in 2009. More recently still, they’ve moved into the fluorescent lights of educational spaces, like schools, libraries, and bookstores, through the work of organizations like Drag Queen Story Hour"

That's an article written in their favor. At least it's an honest look at where those people originated from. So is it any wonder that when they're brought into schools, the children in the schools are then brought to gay bars? School board member sparks furor for taking kindergarten class to gay bar and grill
 
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I don't insist on it. A writer for Teen Vogue is the one who affirmed it to be the case:

"Once at home only in dimly-lit gay bars after sundown, drag performers have recently stepped into the spotlight as mainstream media stars, thanks largely to Emmy Award-winning television series RuPaul’s Drag Race, which debuted in 2009. More recently still, they’ve moved into the fluorescent lights of educational spaces, like schools, libraries, and bookstores, through the work of organizations like Drag Queen Story Hour"

That's an article written in their favor. At least it's an honest look at where those people originated from.
Sure, back when being gay was illegal and drag was dangerous, it was performed surreptitiously by necessity. Not so nowadays.
 
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Sure, back when being gay was illegal and drag was dangerous, it was performed surreptitiously by necessity. Not so nowadays.

And a law change suddenly makes it safe and appropriate for school children to be exposed to now?
 
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None of this would be an issue from republicans if the Drag Queen hour read Atlas Shrugged, The Art of the Deal or The Conscience of a Conservative. It isn't about the Drag Queens, it is about the content they read. The drag queen issue is tied with the book bans across the country as a means to shield children from a perceived immoral indoctrination.

Back in the good days, it was the parents who had the control to allow them to expose their children to the content and information THEY thought was best for their children. Back in the good days, parents had the freedom to raise their kids as they see fit. Today, it appears that certain republicans no longer believe in a parent's choices in parenting if is not up to their standards.
 
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All of them get tossed into the same catagory of sexual immorality. Gay trans, pedo's, biwhatever, all of them. Even drag queens. Because it's all the same spirit of Lust, spawned by a demon which twists sexuality in their mind to think that, gays are ok but pedo's are bad. Or anything of the sort. I wish gay suppoeters would stop trying to have sub classifications of sexual immorality where we are supposed to perceive a certain bunch as no threat or entirely harmelss....Balderdash! Get all those people out of here! The good ones too, lol.
Does “all of those people” include the 90%+ of heterosexuals who had sex outside of marriage, or is that “sexual immorality” different because reasons?
 
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You’re literally using the internet when you ask that question.

Smh

I guess I'll start making my hobby, Drag Queens and their ilk? Fat chance! I'd rather watch old reruns of Looney Tunes! You can go make a hobby out of Drag Queens if you want to, not me!
 
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A high school math teacher and advisor to the Gender and Sexuality Alliance

So it is about sex. AND Gender. See what I mean? Oh no, we're the good ones not the bad ones.

The guys who believe what they want to may sound like a good ol boy sometimes..., but these people are dangerous to let them around your kids.

And no amount of Drag Queen Preaching is going to change that.
 
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None of this would be an issue from republicans if the Drag Queen hour read Atlas Shrugged, The Art of the Deal or The Conscience of a Conservative.
Oh, those poor, poor kids.
It isn't about the Drag Queens, it is about the content they read. The drag queen issue is tied with the book bans across the country as a means to shield children from a perceived immoral indoctrination.
Gee I thought they were reading "The Hungry Caterpillar", etc. to kids.
Back in the good days, it was the parents who had the control to allow them to expose their children to the content and information THEY thought was best for their children. Back in the good days, parents had the freedom to raise their kids as they see fit. Today, it appears that certain republicans no longer believe in a parent's choices in parenting if is not up to their standards.
They still do in this case. Parents are under no obligation to take their kids to the library for book readings. Don't think my parents ever took me to a story hour. (I read my own books.)
 
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Sure, back when being gay was illegal and drag was dangerous, it was performed surreptitiously by necessity. Not so nowadays.

Oh yeah? Well that doesnt mean that you can shove it down the folks throats who are conservative and adhere to traditional values.

Anyone with surreptitious origins are of questionable validity and therefore not welcome at our schools! Go invite some to dinner if you like them so much. But stay out of our schools.
 
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