why do so many guys complain about women having high standards?

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When I see people reducing other human beings to numbered ratings and declaring that all men or women of a certain age are this or that, and that's why they can't find someone to love... well, I'm just so immensely thankful that I conduct myself by my own convictions and standards, lol. There's no talk here of friendship, of compatibility, of being like-minded, of traits related to intellect, work ethic, kindness, spirituality, social adeptness, familial skills, adaptability to life's ups and downs. It's nothing but what number you can assign to another person's appearance (nothing about their mind, their heart, their personality?) or how "fertile" they may be. Do you think that if you could snap your fingers and have a rabidly ovulating woman who ranks a "10" in appearance standing in front of you, who was mindlessly predetermined to desire you and do whatever you wanted, that you'd somehow have any sort of fulfilling, long-term relationship and happiness?

You would not.

Yes, I will just stay over here in my corner.
 
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...who was mindlessly predetermined to desire you and do whatever you wanted, that you'd somehow have any sort of fulfilling, long-term relationship and happiness?

You would not.

Not exactly to the letter but I had a dog like that once. She did not do everything I wanted, in fact, she didn't do most of things I wanted! But that's exactly the way I wanted her to be so in a sense, she did did whatever I wanted her to do.

She made me happy and all our time together was fulfilling until the day she died.

So how could you not be happy if you have such person in your life?? Doesn't make sense at all.
 
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I think it goes both ways, but I agree you definitely primarily see it with men complaining about women around here.

I just never understood it. If somebody has taste that excludes you, do you really think you’re going to fix anything by whining about it? Just move on, that wasn’t your person. People are allowed to have preferences whether another person agrees with them or not.

I will say though, people may benefit from really reflecting on their laundry list of preferences. I find it a lot now on dating sites. These men with no jobs, aren’t particularly good looking, really have nothing that suggests them will write out this long list on their profile of all the things the woman they are looking for must be to be worthy of them. If you have a huge list of standards, you may want to ask yourself if you’re the kind of person somebody who lives up to those standards would be looking for.

What's sad is, women that aren't much to write home about themselves expect the guy to bring MORE to the table than what they can bring. That's the sad part.
 
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Not exactly to the letter but I had a dog like that once. She did not do everything I wanted, in fact, she didn't do most of things I wanted! But that's exactly the way I wanted her to be so in a sense, she did did whatever I wanted her to do.

She made me happy and all our time together was fulfilling until the day she died.

So how could you not be happy if you have such person in your life?? Doesn't make sense at all.
You're comparing a dog to a wife.
 
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What's sad is, women that aren't much to write home about themselves expect the guy to bring MORE to the table than what they can bring. That's the sad part.
Again, you're lumping millions of people into one little box, and trying to declare that they ALL absolutely fit into the parameters you've come up with in your own mind.

This is not a wise or constructive way to think.
 
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I do not desire some supermodel who mindlessly desires and does everything I want, and I'm not sure any other men are even saying this here.

Looks are not everything of course, but for many guys (and me) there has to be some feminine target or I see no reason to pursue a relationship. Really.. when it comes to looks.. they often convey a deeper psychological meaning.

Many women have a hard time being romantically attracted to a man who is shorter than them, I feel the same way about women who are around my age or older. The only reason I'm bringing it up, is because there needs to be balance when it comes to the discussion of preferences. There is a hierarchy of masculinity but the same is true for femininity. We need checks and balances. Having certain preferences doesn't mean I want some air headed model (lol), or that she needs to be "perfect". But just for me.. a woman several years younger than me is equivalent to a woman wanting a taller man. Not that an older woman might now work out.. but it is a major strike against her.. just as my short height is probably a major strike against me.

There are evolutionary reasons for these attractions. I'm not talking about "all women" or "all men", that would be silly. I know of some women who prefer shorter men, and some men who prefer (even elderly) women. But for the vast majority... yes, these traits are very important for the satisfaction of a romantic relationship. They're really two sides of the same coin. Women are attracted to men with parental qualities, and men are attracted to qualities that inspire care in protection. I can get a lot more in depth with this if you like.

These past height threads... many women have been pretty open and non apologetic about speaking about their preferences, I feel the need to do the same with mine. Again.. there needs to be checks and balances.
 
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I do not desire some supermodel who mindlessly desires and does everything I want, and I'm not sure any other men are even saying this here.

Looks are not everything of course, but for many guys (and me) there has to be some feminine target or I see no reason to pursue a relationship. Really.. when it comes to looks.. they often convey a deeper psychological meaning.

Many women have a hard time being romantically attracted to a man who is shorter than them, I feel the same way about women who are around my age or older. The only reason I'm bringing it up, is because there needs to be balance when it comes to the discussion of preferences. There is a hierarchy of masculinity but the same is true for femininity. We need checks and balances. Having certain preferences doesn't mean I want some air headed model (lol), or that she needs to be "perfect". But just for me.. a woman several years younger than me is equivalent to a woman wanting a taller man. Not that an older woman might now work out.. but it is a major strike against her.. just as my short height is probably a major strike against me.

There are evolutionary reasons for these attractions. I'm not talking about "all women" or "all men", that would be silly. I know of some women who prefer shorter men, and some men who prefer (even elderly) women. But for the vast majority... yes, these traits are very important for the satisfaction of a romantic relationship. They're really two sides of the same coin. Women are attracted to men with parental qualities, and men are attracted to qualities that inspire care in protection. I can get a lot more in depth with this if you like.

These past height threads... many women have been pretty open and non apologetic about speaking about their preferences, I feel the need to do the same with mine. Again.. there needs to be checks and balances.
All of this sounds rational and fair.
 
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Again, you're lumping millions of people into one little box, and trying to declare that they ALL absolutely fit into the parameters you've come up with in your own mind.

This is not a wise or constructive way to think.
Stereotypes exist for a reason.
Not that it is reflective of all women or all men, but it is the average norm.
 
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Stereotypes exist for a reason.
Not that it is reflective of all women or all men, but it is the average norm.
According to who? Where are the sociological studies showing that average-looking women are demanding super-hot men?
 
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Why do you all hate each other so much? LOL

Everyone has high standards, that is, until they meet the person who is what they actually want. Who incidentally, is virtually nothing that they actually wanted (on paper), but IS the person who opens the door to a completely new room.

"The next chapter" is what we're always looking for, not a vitae of meaningless junk that bears very little substance. If any at all.
 
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Why do you all hate each other so much? LOL

Everyone has high standards, that is, until they meet the person who is what they actually want. Who incidentally, is virtually nothing that they actually wanted (on paper), but IS the person who opens the door to a completely new room.

"The next chapter" is what we're always looking for, not a vitae of meaningless junk that bears very little substance. If any at all.

I get you totally but I don't know if I can still find such person. I do have high standards but this is mostly in terms of character as I came from a dysfunctional family and dealing with PTSD. I don't want anyone to have deal with someone with problems like mine so I'm totally content being single. Don't really care how crazy shallow this culture gets. Everyone dies in the end, nothing is permanent.
 
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