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This was part of a discussion I had elsewhere on the internet.

Ok, let me first just tell you what I might think about Judgement, and where I think all of us are going to stand, so that you might know where I stand, ok...

First off, it's going to be on an individual by individual basis and "all things" are going to be carefully weighed by God in those individual judgements, etc. For a person who accepted Christ as their Lord and Savior, and who has accepted this as their answer as to the question of why they should get into Heaven or not, etc, the standard will not be absolute perfection.

Next, in weighing all matters out in an individuals judgement, they will only be judged for whatsoever things God chooses to hold against them, or else not hold against them, etc, which will not be all of it for the believer, but it will only be such things as God deemed them capable of doing or else not doing (away with) in this life, for each individual one, etc, which will all be different for each individual one, etc.

I'm not sure if a person who has truly had faith in Jesus Christ to save them, and be their Lord and Savior, or that is the reason that they give as an answer to the question as to why they should get into Heaven or not, etc, can ever truly lose out on that salvation or not, etc, but they could most definitely lose out on rewards maybe, and maybe also positions possibly maybe, etc.

But notice I use the word "truly" here also, as it applies to "the believer", etc. Because if there are any "fakers" out there, and I think there are a lot or plenty of them out there, etc, then I'm pretty sure God will fully know about it fully already, and they will be judged for that accordingly, etc.

And, anyway, that's mostly my position on judgement and as to who really gets to be saved or gets to be in Heaven or not, etc.

"Mostly" anyway, etc.

The exception to this rule will be non-believers who maybe were not responsible for their own not believing in Jesus as their Lord and Savior, or who were caused not to believe in it/him/this/God, or the truth, etc, because of others who did not teach or preach in line with the truth, etc. And there are "a lot of those out there" I do believe, etc.

Anyway, these will be an exception to the rule probably as far as believing or not believing goes, etc. If it was not their fault that they didn't believe, or else worse, because it was the fault of someone else or others that they did not believe, etc. And the latter will be judged even very much heavier for it/that/this, etc.

But these non-believers will be judged just like believers if they were not responsible for their own not believing.

God Bless!
 

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All people will be judged, but all truly born again children of God will never lose out on salvation.
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No, no born again child of God will be judged to see if they are a believer. If a person believes that believers are judged, then they must believe in a work based salvation.
 
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No, no born again child of God will be judged to see if they are a believer. If a person believes that believers are judged, then they must believe in a work based salvation.
The Bible says that all will be judged, and that all will stand before the judgement seat of Christ, and "all" means "all" in this context.

Believers cannot lose out on salvation, but they will be shown when and where, and how or why, they may have missed out on positions and/or rewards in the afterlife, etc.

And this will be before or in front of all, so that all will know how He judges and His judgements, and how all of His judgements are the only 100% righteous, 100% correct, truly just judgements.

God Bless.
 
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The Bible says that all will be judged, and that all will stand before the judgement seat of Christ, and "all" means "all" in this context.

Believers cannot lose out on salvation, but they will be shown when and where, and how or why, they may have missed out on positions and/or rewards in the afterlife, etc.

And this will be before or in front of all, so that all will know how He judges and His judgements, and how all of His judgements are the only 100% righteous, 100% correct, truly just judgements.

God Bless.

The judgment seat of The Messiah is for believers only and is a judgement to determine rewards (gain or loss) for the believer. Unbelievers are judged at a separate judgment, the great white throne.
 
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The judgment seat of The Messiah is for believers only and is a judgement to determine rewards (gain or loss) for the believer. Unbelievers are judged at a separate judgment, the great white throne.
The specifics of those things are up for interpretation I think, but, either way, you are correct in that it is only true believers who were (or are) true believers in their heart who will not lose out on salvation in the judgement but may only suffer either a loss or gain of rewards and/or position in that judgement, which is also what I just stated before BTW.

God Bless!
 
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God looks at the heart of the person. It is not what you did, being judged but what you are. What you did and thought is what you become, but where are you at the judgement time. God is not judging you against a bunch of rules, but who you are inwardly.
God already knows who has/had the right kind of heart inwardly, but among these, He has to show us all what the differences between us are, which will include how/what/why some might be given a little bit more than others, or might be given a little bit better or higher position than others, and what the differences are with us in this, because right now we really don't know, and so God has to show us all what is really truly right, or righteous or correct or just in this area, because right now we don't know, which in or by the end of it none of us are going to disagree with, because we will all see and agree how it is 100% right, and 100% correct, and is truly just.

Right now we don't know it though, what truly makes the difference between us, which is why He will have to show it to us.

Among all of those that are for sure saved I mean. We do not yet know what the differences are or will be between us that makes us either have or get more or less of this or that of this or that than the other ones between us. But God knows and will show us this at the judgement. And in the end, none are ever going to grumble and/or complain, or become jealous, or ever at all ever disagree with it at all.

God Bless.
 
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God already knows who has/had the right kind of heart inwardly, but among these, He has to show us all what the differences between us are, which will include how/what/why some might be given a little bit more than others, or might be given a little bit better or higher position than others, and what the differences are with us in this, because right now we really don't know, and so God has to show us all what is really truly right, or righteous or correct or just in this area, because right now we don't know, which in or by the end of it none of us are going to disagree with, because we will all see and agree how it is 100% right, and 100% correct, and is truly just.

Right now we don't know it though, what truly makes the difference between us, which is why He will have to show it to us.

Among all of those that are for sure saved I mean. We do not yet know what the differences are or will be between us that makes us either have or get more or less of this or that of this or that than the other ones between us. But God knows and will show us this at the judgement. And in the end, none are ever going to grumble and/or complain, or become jealous, or ever at all ever disagree with it at all.

God Bless.
I believe in degrees of "punishment" and find that in scripture but see no difference in the "reward". If you did everything right after becoming a Chrisian you would have done the minimum requirement and if you do not do everything right you need to be forgiven of what you fell short of doing, so we are all forgiven beings. Also, if I do anything good it was because I allowed the Spirit to work throw me, so all I am doing is allowing and nothing is of my own.

If you rule over others as a Christ like person, you wash their feet relatively speaking, "we are not to be like the Gentile rulers, but a servant/slave".

Love is the only variable, so you Love me more than I Love you back, so who is the winner and loser in that scenario?
 
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