I'd agree with that point...
However, the the more zany the left's demands get, the less constructive the right's responses to it have been.
True. Consider though, the last time a response to such a potentially illiberal encroachment was formed. McCarthy era witchhunts aren't exactly intellectually honest.
There are certain moves the right made (to respond to it) that I agreed with, but those are creeping into the same unproductive "own the other side" mindset.
If you look at the Florida school debates.
The right's response to some of the initiatives the left had was to say "okay, you're not gonna teach this stuff for grades k-3"
The left responded to that with misrepresenting it as the "don't say gay" bill and claiming that the right was trying to erase all discussion as the topic...some even equating it with genocide and book burning.
The right has now responded to that (and why they did this, I have no clue) by saying
they now want to extend it to grade 12.
Indeed, I also found it strange.
They've basically done the same thing the left has done with various facets of this topic, which is to make the opposition's slippery slope fallacy come true (thereby invalidating any original claims that it was a fallacy)
Remember when "I identify as an attack helicopter" was a meme joke?
I saw a woman the other day claiming to be 2 birds, a human-bird hybrid, and a person....I think. I might have missed some details between giggles.
There were some on the left who made a warning saying "the k-3 thing is just a start, they're going to try to squash all conversation about it in schools regardless of grade".
Well it begs the question....about what exactly?
If they truly want us to eliminate all these concepts because of their supposed western, white supremacist, patriarchal, origins....
Then won't the result be never talking about it at all?
I thought they were making a slippery slope fallacy...The left was right, I was wrong. That's exactly what they're doing.
Possibly. The Tennessee thing is something rather extreme as well.
Much like when some on the right warned "these modern gender theories aren't going to be confined to just adults, they're going to try to make hormonal affirming therapy available for kids and they're going to try to remove the parental consent aspect", I accused the right of making a slippery slope fallacy, the right was right, I was wrong. There's now advocacy for it to be able to begin at age 14.
More troubling to me is the territory it seems to lead to.
Because even under current conditions it's a 20-30 year problem. You get this Jazz Jennings population hitting adulthood and realizing that the novelty is gone, possibly leaving them in a worse state, and for what?
That creates a bulwark on the next generation. There's already significant blowback on feminism. I imagine a lot of the trans regret will create a similar bulwark.
It seems like the medical industry has seen the oxycontin model as a success story. Flood market with bad research/science. Push products on population. Rake in trillions. When reality hits...say "Oops...sorry, we followed the best science at the time" settle for a few billion...leave wake of destroyed lives.
Really, it's a "take your pick" type of thing. Just about every facet of this conversation involves one side or the other making a claim that sounds outlandish and like a slippery slope fallacy aimed at the other side, every time I (with my moderate balanced viewpoint thinking "that's silly, nobody's gonna push for that") accuse them of scaremongering, and fast forward 6 months, they make it a reality and I have to walk back my previous statements.
You know what one I revisited???
"There's no evidence that homosexuality is related or a more likely cause of pedophilia."
This was 100% true when I made it. Back in the early 2000s up to the early 2010s. No way to know this is true because the stigma of homosexuality meant so many gay people were living in the closet or pretending to be straight you simply wouldn't be able to tell.
Flash forward to now and know what the stats are?
20%. The LGBTQ community commits a full 20% of the child sex abuse crimes. 20% of offenders are openly gay, or another part of the rainbow.
Now, I only know this because the research I read made the insane claim they were being "over policed" but anyone familiar with these crimes knows...that ain't how it works. Children come forward and tell adults....or adults get the truth out of children....then the police are called and the suspect arrested. Police aren't sitting outside the homes of gay people checking IDs.
At 20% they are offending at somewhere between 2x to 4x their hetero counterparts. 3-5% lgbtq is the low estimate, 10% is the high estimate.
And frankly....no, just no. They gotta clean up that mess before they even want to talk to children in a learning environment.
I mean, look where we're at.
From one side, we have people wanting school staff getting fired because a renaissance sculpture was part of a renaissance art class and proposals to restrict sex-ed for 17-18 year olds... From the other side, we have people writing articles about how "
their 4 year old is Trans"
I don't remember if it was Jordan Peterson or someone else who was talking to some woman who claimed her one child was trans and the other poly-something and he just interrupted her by saying "ma'am that's statistically absurd....the chances of both those things happening to your children is so close to zero, nobody can advise you."
I'd like to be somewhat optimistic about the possibility of finding a reasonable middle ground, but I'm losing faith in that possibility.
Uh huh...no I used to think the left was all....real smart and open minded.
Now they argue against merit.
Go figure.
At this point, I wouldn't be shocked if in 5 years from now we have one side that wants to criminalize premarital sex, and the other side wanting to legalize genital piercings for 10 year olds.
I fear it's more likely that little boys of 11 who imagine themselves girls will be dating Steve down the street who doesn't believe in age.
At that point we'll see some real violence.
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