The persecution of Trump and the Bible.

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He is hated by all kinds of people. The Liberal owned MainStream media is responsible for that.
Maybe he is the anti Christ? I specifically remember him preaching against forgiveness at a National Prayer breakfast. If he is to be venerated as some sort of messianic figure shouldn’t he be scrutinized for Antichrist potential just in case?
 
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Maybe he is the anti Christ? I specifically remember him preaching against forgiveness at a National Prayer breakfast. If he is to be venerated as some sort of messianic figure shouldn’t he be scrutinized for Antichrist potential just in case?
When Trump was displaying a lack of faith by doubting the sincerity of someone praying for their political opponents, it was a projection. Thank you for pointing out that the media should not be blamed for reporting what Trump said.
 
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Well I see what the Democrat Party stands for. They promote and encourage homosexuality.
They are against policies that help insure election integrity. Why ? Because it makes rigging an election more difficult. They fight racism with racism. They try and force experimental gene therapies on people. They do witch hunts. They are against self defense, even though they surround themselves with ARMED guards . They don't secure our borders but yet they live in gated communities with high tech security systems installed in their homes. They are against meat eaters , hunting and fishing. They tear down statues . They kneel during the national anthem. They are soft on crime .

You are one walking Republican talking point!
 
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Well I see what the Democrat Party stands for. They promote and encourage homosexuality.
They are against policies that help ensure election integrity. Why ? Because it makes rigging an election more difficult. They fight racism with racism. They try and force experimental gene therapies on people. They do witch hunts. They are against self defense, even though they surround themselves with ARMED guards . They don't secure our borders but yet they live in gated communities with high tech security systems installed in their homes. They are against meat eaters , hunting and fishing. They tear down statues . They kneel during the national anthem. They are soft on crime .
Well you wouldn’t expect the antichrist to affiliate so obviously politically, would you?
 
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Well I see what the Democrat Party stands for. They promote and encourage homosexuality.
They are against policies that help ensure election integrity. Why ? Because it makes rigging an election more difficult. They fight racism with racism. They try and force experimental gene therapies on people. They do witch hunts. They are against self defense, even though they surround themselves with ARMED guards . They don't secure our borders but yet they live in gated communities with high tech security systems installed in their homes. They are against meat eaters , hunting and fishing. They tear down statues . They kneel during the national anthem. They are soft on crime .
I don't think what you convey above is actually true. You might think that's my opinion, but in fact I prefer to reason upon facts not opinion. I only need form an opinion where there is a lack of information, but at least I realize that doesn't make it true. I don't think it's profitable to argue opinions back and forth, so I'll just point out a fact I rely on. Love others as you would want to be loved reveals that when we don't do that, we're hypocrites in our judgments towards others.

So for example, is it fair to claim democrats are promoting and encouraging homosexuality if in fact they're just protecting the rights of individuals who are homosexuals? And since scripture says homosexuality is a lust of the flesh, is it fair to just point out just one manifestation to criticize, and ignore adultery, and other forms of fornication? And so summarily, isn't it disingenuous to believe that fornication only exists in democrats?
 
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Reading this thread I realize what Kelly Ann Conway meant by "alternative facts."

TBT, I call the what they are: lies.

But I am continually astonished by how many people believe that lies are just "alternative facts," conveying "truth" on them merely because they want to.

For example, L's2c said: He became the most investigated person in history and 1 prosecutor who tried to find something on him early on who gave up was quoted as saying “this is the squeakiest clean politician I ever seen”.
In his/her first paragraph, I found about 8-9 alternative facts (lies) and stopped counting, but the one I quoted is so unbelievable that I would love to get a reference for it. I will google first. Ok, I googled it and found "most corrupt," "Idiot," "wildly dishonest," "inaccurate," and then I stopped looking. There were no references to anyone, even his friends, calling him squeaky clean, and so I guess google looked for other descriptions...
 
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They also scream out , " My Body, My Choice !!!". But condemn those who say the same thing when it comes to vaccine mandates.

They call a child in the womb a parasite. They say abortion is not murder. Yet if someone murders a pregnant woman they charge em with DOUBLE murder.
 
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They also scream out , " My Body, My Choice !!!". But condemn those who say the same thing when it comes to vaccine mandates.

They call a child in the womb a parasite. They say abortion is not murder. Yet if someone murders a pregnant woman they charge em with DOUBLE murder.

Even more Republican talking points.
 
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Only Democrat/Liberal opinions shall be called facts.

I am a moderate that leans Democrat. I never said that only Democrats or Liberals have facts. I haven't seen you post any real facts about the election that wasn't a fact for both parties. Both parties were kicked out. I provided an article showing that.

Those same people say there is no God.

I am a Christian. I know many Democrats that are Christians. You cannot say that they say there is no God. That the Bible is a fairy tale and I hate to break it to you, but Republicans also have fact-checkers. Fact-checking should be done by everyone, regardless of party affiliation. I know I have done my own fact-checking.
 
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There are certain Bible passages that make me think of Donald Trumps current situation.

"If they persecuted me, they will persecute you too". John 15:20

"You will be hated by all people because of my name". Matthew 10:22

"Then they will hand you over to be persecuted, and they will put you to death. You will be hated by all nations because of my name." Matthew 24:9

“If the world hates you, keep in mind that it hated me first." John 15:18

Donald Trump promotes Christianity. That's why people hate him.

Oh my. You realize all those passages refer to Christ and you have identified them with Trump. Maybe I'm not the first to point this out, I'll need to go back a read the thread, but this is not good!

Trump is no one's savior. These passages do not refer to him, not even close. This is a real problem for a Christian to make this kind of identification. Christians have one allegiance and that is to Christ; Christ alone is our Lord. Donald Trump wants to be seen as a savior and this kind of identification tells me it's working on some. Christians who agree with you need to take a deep and hard look at what is going on and get their priorities in order. This is a problem.
 
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They also scream out , " My Body, My Choice !!!". But condemn those who say the same thing when it comes to vaccine mandates.

They call a child in the womb a parasite. They say abortion is not murder. Yet if someone murders a pregnant woman they charge em with DOUBLE murder.
Broad brushwork aside, so the alternative is unquestioning devotion to the likes of a Donald Trump?
 
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They also scream out , " My Body, My Choice !!!". But condemn those who say the same thing when it comes to vaccine mandates.
This is a false equivalency since they are not the same thing. But just so you know, I know many democrats who do not approve of the government mandating vaccinations depending on the severity of the pandemic and its danger to the public. For example, quarantining individuals against their will has been considered as sometimes necessary in scripture. The mandates for covid were actually implemented by private companies which were then challenged in the courts.
They call a child in the womb a parasite. They say abortion is not murder. Yet if someone murders a pregnant woman they charge em with DOUBLE murder.
The only thing relevant here is whether some abortions should be considered murder. If someone murders a pregnant woman, it would not qualify as performing an abortion. And the double murder is not just something invented by democrats, it has a long standing in criminal law. And many Republicans vote for laws that allow abortions.
 
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There are certain Bible passages that make me think of Donald Trumps current situation.

"If they persecuted me, they will persecute you too". John 15:20

"You will be hated by all people because of my name". Matthew 10:22

"Then they will hand you over to be persecuted, and they will put you to death. You will be hated by all nations because of my name." Matthew 24:9

“If the world hates you, keep in mind that it hated me first." John 15:18

Donald Trump promotes Christianity. That's why people hate him.

I was a Trump voter in both presidential races, however, I must disagree with you here.

What has occurred with Trump is that his political stances greatly concur with the political stances of many Christians.

It is a dangerous thing to decide Trump is some kind of poster child for persecuted Christian's, he's not.

There are two main political camps right now, and one is being unequally treated in all things. But it's not specifically religious persecution, not yet. It remains wholly political at the moment, regardless of some Christians beginning to get swept up in it.
 
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This is a false equivalency since they are not the same thing. But just so you know, I know many democrats who do not approve of the government mandating vaccinations depending on the severity of the pandemic. The mandates for covid were implemented by private companies which were challenged in the courts.

The only thing relevant here is whether some abortions should be considered murder. If someone murders a pregnant woman, it would not qualify as performing an abortion.
Oh it's different??? "My Body, My Choice" means my body , my choice. The only reason you say it's different is because it shows the Lefts hypocrisy.
 
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I don't know if Donald Trump is a Christian now. I sure hope he is. I remember before the 2016 election when Trump said that he didn't believe in heaven. I believe that he really thought that even though he took it back.

I think the Democrats and False Christians act like the Pharisees of Jesus' time. They pretend to be godly but they are so sinful and we know this from their fruits.

Mike Pence is often compared to Judas because of his betrayal.
 
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Mike Pence is often compared to Judas because of his betrayal.

Betrayal of who? Trump? Trump betrayed himself and this country. Pence actually stood up for this country and did what was right.
 
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I think the Democrats and False Christians act like the Pharisees of Jesus' time. They pretend to be godly but they are so sinful and we know this from their fruits.

Mike Pence is often compared to Judas because of his betrayal.
So you are expressing concern that Trump acknowledged unbelief then walked it back. You also seem to be saying any non Trump supporter and all Dems are false Christians and Pence is comparable to Judas?
 
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Well I see what the Democrat Party stands for. They promote and encourage homosexuality.
They are against policies that help ensure election integrity. Why ? Because it makes rigging an election more difficult. They fight racism with racism. They try and force experimental gene therapies on people. They do witch hunts. They are against self defense, even though they surround themselves with ARMED guards . They don't secure our borders but yet they live in gated communities with high tech security systems installed in their homes. They are against meat eaters , hunting and fishing. They tear down statues . They kneel during the national anthem. They are soft on crime .
All of this is true, but none of it makes Trump a good person, let alone Christlike.
 
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