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hi all,

As a few of you may know, I have bipolar 1. I was diagnosed around ten years ago. My parents always thought it was because of genetics, because my maternal grand aunt was retarded (I do not know what she had, but she had the IQ of a toddler) and 1 of my paternal uncle had a personality disorder that made him act impulsively and start a lot of fist fights.

Recently, I talked to my maternal and paternal uncles and aunts, and they all told me that they believed I do not have my paternal uncle and my maternal grand aunt's illness, one likely low IQ and the other probably middle to low functioning psychopathy.

I have also tested for slightly above average IQ, around 140, my mother got her results and her score was slightly below average, my father average, but on the low side.

My parents have always been very cruel to me. my mother was extremely strict towards me since a young age, and when my brother was born five years late, she became very cold and withdrawn towards me. I distinctly remember how I fell (I was 8) and skinned my knee terribly. to this day I have the scar and I'm almost thirty, and she ignored me while I was crying (even though I hardly cried) and continued to teach my brother how to read. She also reported my 'misbehaviour' such as being annoyed with her and using a bad word ( mild ones like "shut up"). Every little thing I did she had to tell my father, who would either yell at me or slap me. I was annoyed easily, still am. anyway my father was worse. like I've said, he would shout at me or slap me, and whenever I had ideas about anything, he would shoot them down. it's only after I was diagnosed with bipolar they stopped their cruel abuse and started being genial to me. which is actually what hurts even more. they weren't genial with me because they loved me, but because they finally 'understood' why I was so 'difficult', and that it was 'genetic' and I couldn't 'help' being that way.

the truth is, they were the only people in my life who thought I was difficult. everyone else, adult or peers, recognised my high IQ and maturity for my age.

I can't help but think that I developed bipolar because of my parents. they didn't want a child, they wanted a robot. my brother was the model child, he did everything they wanted and asked him to. I was precocious, I had a very active mind and got bored and annoyed often. I asked them questions they didn't understand so they thought I was the one with low iq.

I know both my family grew up in non conducive environments. my father was the last child in a 13 children household. he had no time to read or do anything good for his mental development. he had no educated parents to guide him either. his mother died when he was five, when his father came back from his work trip only to know his wife had died, he stopped talking and sat on his rocking chair all day, everyday, never uttering a word. he died a few years later. my father grew up with no worthy role models. he was also an introvert, and he was bad at presenting himself, and they were dirt poor anyway, so his idols are people who are poor but still made time to entertain or help other poor children. to this day he has a distaste for anything 'luxurious'. we are no longer poor but he likes to dress in faded clothes and keeps his hair unkempt. He talks loudly, almost rudely. this is the picture of someone worthy of respect, to him. and then he puzzles over why some people doesn't like to associate with him. He has average IQ, but on the low side, his beliefs and worldview are strongly affected by emotion. there is almost no introspection. But he is good at other things, because of his high profile job, he has learnt how to deal with dangerous people, like mob bosses, et cetera.
Disclaimer my father is not involved in anything illegal, he is a consultant for hotel management issues and some of the people who hire him are connected to the mafia, or other secret societies.

As for my mother, only she turned out the way she is. my aunt and uncle are very emotionally intelligent. I have an explanation for this. My grandmother probably has low IQ as well, the way she behaves. My grandfather divorced her when my mother and her siblings were 3 years old. My grandma sent my uncle to New York to study, and my mom and aunt were left with her. My aunt was very young, and since my uncle was away at New York and my grandma had to work long hours to be able to pay the bills, my mom, as young as age 5, had to take care of her little sister, and do the cooking, cleaning, and they didn't have a car, so she had to walk to school. my grandma returned from work late at night, and my mom had to pick her little sister from one of the bus stops, so from five years of age to fifteen, she had to run to the bus stop daily to pick my aunt up. my aunt was very young, so my grandma had no choice but to ask my mom to pick her up. my mom had to run because my grandma didn't want my aunt to wait too long at the bus stop because she was young and tiny.

they could hardly afford any food, so my mom probably didn't have much nutrients to grow her brain, all her life, and because she liked sports, she probably didn't have enough nutrients at all, both for her body and brain. Also, my grandma used to be one hell of a volcano. she was very strict with my mom, my mom was always terrified of her getting angry.

I know the histories of both my parents, but still, I feel so angry. and I feel hurt. I can't help but feel that if they were smarter or more educated or had more patience I wouldn't have ended up with bipolar. Most people with bipolar apparently have average or below average IQ, all the more convinces me that mine isn't hereditary. but I know my parents love me. it was just very circumstantial, everything was. but that doesn't mean it doesn't hurt. it's been ten years since I was diagnosed, and it still hurts so much.
 

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Anger about the past can facilitate the growth of a root of bitterness that can poison your life. Rather than have the damage that was done to you continue by holding on to it, you might consider letting it go.

You might have a condition called Aspergers. There is a free pdf booklet that you can download to see if there is anything in it you might find helpful;

 
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I can't help but think that I developed bipolar because of my parents.
More than healing memories, God goes back to the time in our life when it all happened to bring about healing. We are to put on the mind of Christ. So that will resolve any issue we may or may not have in our mind. I was in a church where the pastor preached over 300 sermons on having the mind of Christ. We do not realize how many scriptures talk about what it means to have the mind of Christ.

Philippians 2:5 "Let this mind be in you, which was also in Christ Jesus"
 
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a condition called Aspergers.
This week that is what they call it. Last week and next week they call it something different.

There are over 25,000 terms and definitions, that cover all areas of research and application, and include coverage of concepts, processes, and therapies across all the major subdisciplines of psychology.

They do not do much to help, but they are pretty good at putting labels on people.
 
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Very sorry that you are going through this.

Would you mind if prayers are offered for you?
Hi, thank you, yes please pray for me. I want to go for counselling but i have no time for it at the moment, and i don't think i can trust people whom i have to meet, at least on an online forum everyone is anonymous. I am dealing with a lot of hurt at the moment, but I'm sure everyone is.
 
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Anger about the past can facilitate the growth of a root of bitterness that can poison your life. Rather than have the damage that was done to you continue by holding on to it, you might consider letting it go.

You might have a condition called Aspergers. There is a free pdf booklet that you can download to see if there is anything in it you might find helpful;

I thought I let go of it, but I'm the kind of person, i need to let you know in your face how you did me wrong, then i find it easier to let go of it, but obviously i can't. my parents are old now, and i love them. i don't want to spoil what little time we have left together.
 
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More than healing memories, God goes back to the time in our life when it all happened to bring about healing. We are to put on the mind of Christ. So that will resolve any issue we may or may not have in our mind. I was in a church where the pastor preached over 300 sermons on having the mind of Christ. We do not realize how many scriptures talk about what it means to have the mind of Christ.

Philippians 2:5 "Let this mind be in you, which was also in Christ Jesus"
I'll be honest with you, all that put on the mind of Christ thing never helped me. It made me angrier that i have to 'forgive' people who has done me harm. Because I have a very pure and giving nature. Who I forgive, I give to again. I cannot afford to forgive. Anger is literally my self defence. I tried very hard, to be 'religious', but what i found helped me is science. proven methods by scientific researches. I believe religion and secular studies can complement each other.
 
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I'll be honest with you, all that put on the mind of Christ thing never helped me.
The question is what is life going to be like in Heaven? Forgiveness is a work of God in us. Like so many things in life it is just not something we can do on our own apart from God.
 
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I didn't like many things in my childhood. And I came to the conclusion that people aren't perfect.

Ephesians 4:31-32
31Let all bitterness, and wrath, and anger, and clamour, and evil speaking, be put away from you, with all malice: 32And be ye kind one to another, tenderhearted, forgiving one another, even as God for Christ's sake hath forgiven you.
 
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I didn't like my many things in my childhood. And I came to the conclusion that people aren't perfect.

Ephesians 4:31-32
31Let all bitterness, and wrath, and anger, and clamour, and evil speaking, be put away from you, with all malice: 32And be ye kind one to another, tenderhearted, forgiving one another, even as God for Christ's sake hath forgiven you.
I think all kids eventually realize that their parents are not perfect. Took me into my 20s. I think they did their best. They had a lot going on with home, 4 boys, jobs, bills etc etc.
I decided to give them a break. I hope my kids see it that way and do the same for me.
The circle goes round and round.
 
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Hey,

I’ve been reading a few of your posts and it sounds like you’ve been pondering the problem of the suffering of God’s people. Where does punishment end and bearing our crosses begin? How do conditions like your bipolar fit? Or resentment to a neglectful parent(s)?

This is a tough issue to work through, so I am going to make some assumptions which can hopefully lead to some meaningful advice. My apologies If I error in any of those assumptions.
I know the histories of both my parents, but still, I feel so angry. and I feel hurt. I can't help but feel that if they were smarter or more educated or had more patience I wouldn't have ended up with bipolar. Most people with bipolar apparently have average or below average IQ, all the more convinces me that mine isn't hereditary
Let suppose for a second, there are consequences to the sins of your grandparents the sum of which your parents likely added based on your conversations with your uncles & aunts. This means you find yourself in this world inheriting a huge debt for the consequences of their sins(a debt even outweighing your own). This physically manifested as your experiences with parental neglect, misunderstanding (high IQ people are rarely understood by low/average IQ people) and even bipolar (most mental illness is a proclivity triggered by reinforcement).

You now feel angry, isolated, confused and a deep desire to be reborn free of that debt. You know by your faith, Jesus bears these sorts of matters on our behalf and so crave to see that same freedom specific to that particular suffering as you were transformed from the universal existential suffering when you were reborn Christian(that debt being death itself).

So...let us first ask, for the strength to pay this generational debt. Let us then ask, to let go of our attraction to being special: "someone needed to stand up and pay this generational debt, if not you and I - who?". Let us then ask, to let go of our aversion to the pain itself: "Lord, if you can suffer the painfullest of deaths, then surely I can suffer some discomfort and tragedy"

Are we still angry? Of course, but that too will pass.

What matters is the pattern of neglect will end, our children will know the love in our heart. What matters is the pattern of misunderstanding will end, we will listen to our children no matter how difficult. What matters is the negative experience of our mental illness will be different for others, as through humility, trial and error we will make it a virtue rather than a vice.

Must you forgive your parents? Of course, but understanding their burden is never enough. As with any difficult inheritance we must first pay the debt, that means transform from a participate(stilling hurting) to a recovered person(observing your parents/grandparents suffering). It is from that vantage point forgiveness will flow naturally. If you try to 'forgive' by forgetting you are simply agreeing to pattern of neglect and misunderstanding and in all likelihood will pass it to your children and/or community. To end the pattern someone must lift this heavy load. It seems this is your calling.

why are some Christians' lives so hard?
We are the vessels of our Lord's mission and many tasks are dirty. If were all made instant kings and queens then how would the rest of society know the light? No, they would curse the light and commit themselves to only know darkness. We must walk where we are asked. For most that means grave sacrifice. But since we make our wealth in our hearts, we wear that poverty and suffering with joy.

If you ask me and listen to my prayers you'd be blessed to live a privileged life, or a simple one with little tragedy; but according to the gospels, that is not true. Apparently, these easy lives are snares that catch people without guard. Where they appear easy, most in fact risk the very salvation we prize most. As it is said, "it is better for you that you enter the Life maimed, than when you have two hands, you would go to Gehenna." It is for this reason, many christians capable of living simple privileged lives chooses instead humble lifestyles and seek address problems of society accepting the tragic consequences that come with disrupting the status quo.

But, should we seek then to suffer? Of course not, we simply must accept what is asked. So if we are born in neglect, misunderstanding and bipolar then that be our cross to bear through which we can demonstrate the power of the light to heal. If born to a simple life with little tragedy wear it in a way which is a source of hope for the weary not a point of pride to rub in the faces of the suffering. That is all. Accepting what is given. Being Humble.

If that means, we are cursed. We need not worry when we cry, scream out, or be angry; we do not go quietly into that good night. We fight with our whole-selves and speak from our hearts with passion and truth. But in that fighting we get our strength from the light and power of the Spirit. That is our calling, to submit to the Will of God and in doing so upon our earthly death can look our life with pride and grateful we did not fall to the waves which shaped us. Tragedy sucks. Earthly life is often hard and unfair. Let that then be a source of compassion and gratefulness as well as a fuel for curses for the wounds we must endure. We are called to live and life does not extinguish easily when challenged.

Despite know all that, I still fear tragedy and pain. I ask for protection probably more than most not less. I trust though that when that is not given, just as I have trust in God, He has trust in me to carry and overcome. If what is given is broken -- my commission is to mend. If what is given is great -- my commission is to maintain. If what is given is inflated -- my commission is to simplify.
why are some christians so hypocritical?...Accept your flaws for goodness sake....Why do you need to manipulate me with long rants everytime we talk?It's so irritating....I'm not judgemental. i love human nature, but i have several petpeeves and i cant stand it anymore...i think this isn't human nature. the only people who do it are very selfish, manipulative, jealous, arrogant, narc people.
I to dislike people who are selfish, manipulative, jealous and boost about their own righteousness.
I refer to them toxic, vile and viscous.
I avoid them whenever I can.

Yet, through one circumstance or another they become friends, associates or close family where-in avoidance no longer an option. I have contemplated on it and come to the conclusion the root must be their internal suffering and when we can't avoid we should instead embrace as an opportunity to work on ourselves.

A person who radiates these extremes makes visible that which lingers in us all. Their super hypocrisy has a small hypocrisy in our own lives and if we can help them see it and work to repair it. Gently. Patiently and despite our own reservations, irritation and pet peeves. In that act our own remaining smaller hypocrisies will be healed. It's like a magnifying glass. Of course that work is very hard and not without it toll.

As for why we Christians are still so broken despite our many advantages. I don't know but assume it must be because God finds good those who get into the battle despite all odds. As a result, our churches are spiritual hospitals where sometimes we are patients and sometimes we are doctors. Being the doctor sounds more appealing but in reality is dirty and difficult. So I for one pray to be a patient as much as I am able and do what I can to help despite my proclivities to wish to avoid the ugly, broken and outburts of those suffering more.
 
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My parents have always been very cruel to me.
The fifth commandment says, “Honor your father and your mother, that your days may be long in the land that the Lord your God is giving you” (Exodus 20:12). This commandment, and the blessing attached to it, are repeated throughout the old and new testaments.
 
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