Anti intellectualism directed against science.

Diamond7 said:

My son just got home from Kalamazoo where he was working for Pfizer on their network. He has done work for them to provide information to the FDA on the production aspect of vaccines they manufacture.

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I wonder how close the scientific community came to denigrating Frances Kelsey, until they found out she was right all along?

AV1611VET said:

I wonder how close the scientific community came to denigrating Frances Kelsey, until they found out she was right all along?

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For me, that is chicken feed compared to what Frances Collins did when he removed the ban and approved funding for research on high-risk pathogens.

In 2014, the NIH did make changes to its guidelines for funding research on certain high-risk pathogens, such as the H5N1 influenza virus. These changes allowed for the funding of studies that involved making these pathogens more dangerous, with the goal of better understanding their potential risks and developing strategies to prevent or mitigate outbreaks.

1. World Health Organization (WHO). (2021). Origins of SARS-CoV-2: Introduction and summary. Retrieved from https://www.who.int/publications/i/item/9789240029224
2. Centers for Disease Control and Prevention (CDC). (2021). COVID-19 and Animals. Retrieved from COVID-19 and Your Health
3. National Institutes of Health (NIH). (2020). SARS-CoV-2 Viral Cultures - Infectious and Genomic RNA. Retrieved from https://www.nih.gov/news-events/news-releases/sars-cov-2-viral-cultures-infectious-genomic-rna
4. Nature. (2021). Investigate the origins of COVID-19. Retrieved from https://www.nature.com/articles/d41586-021-01449-6
5. Scientific American. (2021). The Lab-Leak Hypothesis. Retrieved from https://www.scientificamerican.com/article/the-lab-leak-hypothesis/

Diamond7 said:

For me, that is chicken feed compared to what Frances Collins did when he removed the ban and approved funding for research on high-risk pathogens.

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Norma McCorvey has that beat in spades.

AV1611VET said:

Norma McCorvey has that beat in spades.

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According to the American Medical Association, doctors are the fourth leading cause of death. The benefits of modern medicine and healthcare far outweigh the risks, and most people do live longer and healthier lives as a result of medical interventions.

Usually, there is a risk. The recent catheterization I had, ran a risk of 1/2 of 1%. The risk of not running the test would have been a lot higher. Even though in my case they did not find anything that would have required a stint or balloon. They did find some scar tissue that they want to go in and remove.

Diamond7 said:

Close, but no banana. I do not care IF YOU say it is true or not. You have more confidence in your subjective reality than I do.

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Right. It's my subjective reality that one of the four papers chatgpt attributed to me doesn't exist and that I'm not an author of any of the four. No way to objectively test that reality.

Diamond7 said:

According to the American Medical Association, doctors are the fourth leading cause of death.

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I'm sure that's a bogus statistic.

If you factor in abortion, I would say doctors are the leading cause of death.

To kill an unborn child, then treat it as if it's not even a statistic worthy of inclusion into other statistics is abomination.

Diamond7 said:

Chatbot is giving me the info I want.

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But not the information you need.

Larnievc said:

But not the information you need.

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You think I am a needy person?

AV1611VET said:

I'm sure that's a bogus statistic.

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No not at all, now they are saying doctors are the third leading cause of death
MODERN MEDICINE

The third-leading cause of death in US most doctors don't want you to know about

More than 250,000 people in the US die every year because of medical mistakes, making it the third-leading cause of death after heart disease and cancer.

www.cnbc.com

sfs said:

Right. It's my subjective reality that one of the four papers chatgpt attributed to me doesn't exist and that I'm not an author of any of the four. No way to objectively test that reality.

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Don't use it then. It is an old absolute program. Unless you are using GPT4 on Bing. I found that when you ask for references most of the links do not even go anywhere. The articles were there at one time, but they are gone now.

Perhaps you know of another program better than BPT for writing articles. My son suggests Grammarly.

Maybe I should run GPT through Grammarly and see what comes out.

Diamond7 said:

You think I am a needy person?

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I think you need better sources of information.

Diamond7 said:

No not at all, now they are saying doctors are the third leading cause of death.

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They're just using MEDICAL MISTAKES to support their findings.

This causes them to fall short of the truth.

Factor in MEDICAL PRACTICE, and I'm sure it would establish the medical world as the leading cause of death.

This is a science ploy that dupes the common people.

Scientists will use ONLY the data and information that render deep time, and firewall any data and information that render a much younger earth.

My pastor is a YEC, and he makes the point that, of some 70 different processes that render a young earth, scientists use only the ones that they can manipulate to render deep time, and discard the rest.

Carbon dating methods, radio dating methods, ice cores, dendrochronology? no problem with scientists.

But ocean salination, strength of the magnetosphere, moondust, etc? those get swept away.

Diamond7 said:

No not at all, now they are saying doctors are the third leading cause of death
MODERN MEDICINE

The third-leading cause of death in US most doctors don't want you to know about

More than 250,000 people in the US die every year because of medical mistakes, making it the third-leading cause of death after heart disease and cancer.

www.cnbc.com

Your Health Care May Kill You: Medical Errors - PubMed

Recent studies of medical errors have estimated errors may account for as many as 251,000 deaths annually in the United States (U.S)., making medical errors the third leading cause of death. Error rates are significantly higher in the U.S. than in other developed countries such as Canada...

pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov

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It’s a sad thing when the richest nation that has ever existed cannot keep it’s citizens as health as other countries.

AV1611VET said:

and firewall any data and information that render a much younger earth.

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Such as what. This is something that can be verified. So verify away.

Larnievc said:

It’s a sad thing when the richest nation that has ever existed cannot keep it’s citizens as health as other countries.

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A fetus is not a citizen.

A babe in the womb is.

Larnievc said:

Such as what. This is something that can be verified. So verify away.

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I gave three examples.

Dunno wha

AV1611VET said:

A fetus is not a citizen.

A babe in the womb is.

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Dunno what you are trying to tell me.

AV1611VET said:

I gave three examples.

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Will you link the posts?

Larnievc said:

Will you link the posts?

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532

(Ocean salination, strength of the magnetosphere, moondust.)

Diamond7 said:

I found that when you ask for references most of the links do not even go anywhere. The articles were there at one time, but they are gone now.

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Why not try the circle of translations?

I fed this into an AI natural language translation (Google). First to spanish, then through a couple other languages (including Latvian, Greek, Welsh and Dutch) then back to English and I got this:

"I've noticed that when you ask for referrals, most of the links don't even go anywhere. The buildings were once there, but they are no longer there."

It's not as good as "Jimmy James Macho Business Donkey Wrestler", but it's a start. (I was going to do Arabic, but the Spanish -> Arabic left part of the text as untranslated Spanish, so that didn't seem fair.)