Can i not wear a hat as a Christian

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1 Corinthians 11:
2 I praise you for remembering me in everything and for holding to the traditions just as I passed them on to you. 3 But I want you to realize that the head of every man is Christ, and the head of the woman is man,[a] and the head of Christ is God. 4 Every man who prays or prophesies with his head covered dishonors his head. 5 But every woman who prays or prophesies with her head uncovered dishonors her head—it is the same as having her head shaved.6 For if a woman does not cover her head, she might as well have her hair cut off; but if it is a disgrace for a woman to have her hair cut off or her head shaved, then she should cover her head.

7 A man ought not to cover his head,[b] since he is the image and glory of God; but woman is the glory of man. 8 For man did not come from woman, but woman from man; 9 neither was man created for woman, but woman for man. 10 It is for this reason that a woman ought to have authority over her own[c] head, because of the angels. 11 Nevertheless, in the Lord woman is not independent of man, nor is man independent of woman. 12 For as woman came from man, so also man is born of woman. But everything comes from God.


I just bought a hat and now dont know if i can wear it. What do you guys think?
 

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1 Corinthians 11:
2 I praise you for remembering me in everything and for holding to the traditions just as I passed them on to you. 3 But I want you to realize that the head of every man is Christ, and the head of the woman is man,[a] and the head of Christ is God. 4 Every man who prays or prophesies with his head covered dishonors his head. 5 But every woman who prays or prophesies with her head uncovered dishonors her head—it is the same as having her head shaved.6 For if a woman does not cover her head, she might as well have her hair cut off; but if it is a disgrace for a woman to have her hair cut off or her head shaved, then she should cover her head.

7 A man ought not to cover his head,[b] since he is the image and glory of God; but woman is the glory of man. 8 For man did not come from woman, but woman from man; 9 neither was man created for woman, but woman for man. 10 It is for this reason that a woman ought to have authority over her own[c] head, because of the angels. 11 Nevertheless, in the Lord woman is not independent of man, nor is man independent of woman. 12 For as woman came from man, so also man is born of woman. But everything comes from God.


I just bought a hat and now dont know if i can wear it. What do you guys think?
I think that it is important understanding what the bible message is rather than trying to take everything in it as being literal. Feel free to ware your hat as long as you bow your head to God. 1 Corinthians 11:7 Commentaries: For a man ought not to have his head covered, since he is the image and glory of God; but the woman is the glory of man.
 
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I think that it is important understanding what the bible message is rather than trying to take everything in it as being literal. Feel free to ware your hat as long as you bow your head to God. 1 Corinthians 11:7 Commentaries: For a man ought not to have his head covered, since he is the image and glory of God; but the woman is the glory of man.
Also i just found Zechariah 3:5 "Then I said, “Put a clean turban on his head.” So they put a clean turban on his head and clothed him, while the angel of the LORD stood by."
 
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1 Corinthians 11:
2 I praise you for remembering me in everything and for holding to the traditions just as I passed them on to you. 3 But I want you to realize that the head of every man is Christ, and the head of the woman is man,[a] and the head of Christ is God. 4 Every man who prays or prophesies with his head covered dishonors his head. 5 But every woman who prays or prophesies with her head uncovered dishonors her head—it is the same as having her head shaved.6 For if a woman does not cover her head, she might as well have her hair cut off; but if it is a disgrace for a woman to have her hair cut off or her head shaved, then she should cover her head.

7 A man ought not to cover his head,[b] since he is the image and glory of God; but woman is the glory of man. 8 For man did not come from woman, but woman from man; 9 neither was man created for woman, but woman for man. 10 It is for this reason that a woman ought to have authority over her own[c] head, because of the angels. 11 Nevertheless, in the Lord woman is not independent of man, nor is man independent of woman. 12 For as woman came from man, so also man is born of woman. But everything comes from God.


I just bought a hat and now dont know if i can wear it. What do you guys think?
That's where we get the tradition of men not wearing hats indoors while women can. It means a man should not wear a hat in church.
 
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That's where we get the tradition of men not wearing hats indoors while women can. It means a man should not wear a hat in church.
can men wear hats in general?
 
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If you're wearing a large sombrero as a curtesy to those sitting behind you, it is best to take it off.
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Yes. Notice it says "while praying or prophesying". The implication is that men generally covered their heads but that they should remove them when praying or prophesying.
 
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Consider that Christ is the head of the church. Though the church is made up of both men and women; one parabolic representation is that the church is conveyed in feminine form. The "head" (who is Christ) covers the "body". And because the Son is the 2nd person of the Trinity; as God, nothing "covers" Him. Thus the parabolic representation that if a man covers his head, he dishonors his head; yet the woman is "required" a "covering". The "covering" of the church is Christ.

So humanly speaking, if you want to wear hats; there's nothing forbidding you from doing so. When I was in the military; if one was outside; they always had a "cover" on. In graduation ceremonies; a chaplain would pray and no one (male or female) took their hats off.

And if you go back into the OT; Exodus 39:31 the Levites wore headgear while serving in the temple.
 
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7 A man ought not to cover his head,[b] since he is the image and glory of God; but woman is the glory of man. 8 For man did not come from woman, but woman from man; 9 neither was man created for woman, but woman for man. 10 It is for this reason that a woman ought to have authority over her own[c] head, because of the angels.
The context of this verse is rules for order inside the church. This does not mean that men cannot wear hats outside of the church. The intent behind these rules was to prevent chaos and rubbing the outside culture in the wrong way for no good reason.

Back in the day these head coverings or lack thereof were ways of indicating modesty or immodesty, honor or dishonor. Back in the day a guy wearing a hat to church would be the equivalent of having a flaming orange mohawk today. It would be a huge distraction that would draw attention to yourself. These days the cultural norms have shifted in the favor of male headgear so it would far less of a distraction these days. Some denominations still take these verses literally and require female head coverings for church services (and lack of them for males) but as far as I know nobody is imposing these outside of the church.
 
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In ancient rome, the symbol of being a free roman citizen was the pileus hat. Paul was telling them to take it off (which was shocking at the time, because they wore them everywhere, at work, during dinner, in the shower. Yay we are FREE!) So in taking off the symbol of there freedom, and in turn, looking like a slave, they were showing themselves to be slaves of Christ.

So we still take our hat off in church in respect to what was said to the 1st century church.
 
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In ancient rome, the symbol of being a free roman citizen was the pileus hat. Paul was telling them to take it off (which was shocking at the time, because they wore them everywhere, at work, during dinner, in the shower. Yay we are FREE!) So in taking off the symbol of there freedom, and in turn, looking like a slave, they were showing themselves to be slaves of Christ.

So we still take our hat off in church in respect to what was said to the 1st century church.
Well that's interesting. I've never heard that before! (The Roman citizen hat explanation in connection to this passage.)

There were other ways (for certain populations) that one could prove that either they weren't a slave, or that if they were; they belonged to a certain household.

In the military; they'd be tattooed with their legion or commander's symbol. People of all sorts of ethnicities could be in the army. And the "mark" that indicated "military" was actually a "cross". (It was a Greek letter that was no longer in use any more, that was called "a cross"; although what it technically looked like, I don't know. It most probably resembled a + sign.) And next to this would be the legion number or commander's symbol (or maybe even both).

Captives taken in combat were considered slaves; but one could become a citizen by joining the army. They'd have to have permission by the slave owner to join the army; although "obedient combat captives" would be owned by military people. After 20 years a soldier earned citizenship. Which citizenship was a BIG DEAL in ancient Rome. They also tattooed free born men who joined the army, that they couldn't be sold as slaves.

And there likely was a similar civilian accommodation for tattooing slaves whom both master and slave wanted to remain together.

Actually getting into the Roman army was an ordeal in and of itself. If one made it all the way through training; they were assigned a legion. (For a fully trained recruit assigned a legion; I believe their "basic training" was about 6 months. And on top of that; a fully trained legionnaire had been in the army about 2 years. With a few exceptions - like those who were assigned to be executioners - soldiers were trained in every combat position.) Once you were officially in the army; you'd joined for life. Your legion became your family. And a lot of military people actually had family members who were also in the military.

The military was the only way people who didn't have money could become citizens and earn "ranking" in Roman society. Obviously the army had a ranking system and the higher up in rank you went; the higher prestige you had in the eyes of civilian citizens. Soldiers who were over 40 years old were assigned to things like guarding prisons. They could also be "territorial proctors". Similar to like a combination of town mayor and police chief.

Pontius Pilate would have been in the army and he was probably over 50 years old at the point he was a proctorate in Judea. Civilians could be proctors too; but they would not have chosen to be proctors over Roman territories. (too much potential inherent conflict) So someplace like Judea (because of revolts against Rome) would have only been taken by a military person.

People who made good rank in the Roman army had a high degree of personal discipline. Those who were the most "pragmatically even tempered" would be offered position of executioner. (Those that carried out crucifixions and / executing soldiers. These were well paid positions.) Army executioners also dealt with citizens who were given a death sentence. Citizens could be executed after a formal trial. Citizens were beheaded. Also, Rome did not crucify the insane, females or children. Common crimes citizens were executed for were murder, treason and rape (against female citizens).

One "benefit" of being in the army is that it was illegal to crucify soldiers. It was considered too much of a shame. Soldiers who'd committed crimes worthy of death were killed by the men in their own legion. That was considered a "redeemable act" to face one's own death as a soldier and not a coward.

Executioners would use an "execution flagellum" on soldiers. This was the type of whipping implement that would have pieces of glass and metal in it designed to rip the skin and muscles. The execution flagellum was designed that the soldier would bleed out and die long before the designated "40 lashes" was complete. This type of flagellum was not used on someone who was to be crucified; because the intent of crucifixion was that the death be a prolonged as possible. Also the execution of soldiers was only "public" to the legion members. Of which, post death they'd be given a soldier's burial.

So thus when Jesus was flogged; they used a "chastisement flagellum". We know this because Pilate stated that he would "chastise" Jesus and let him go. (Luke 23:16) "Chastisements" weren't meant to be lethal; just unpleasant. The army used the same system on disobedient soldiers who did not commit crimes considered worthy of death. Soldiers would be "chastised" for things such as petty theft or brawling among the ranks. Which like OT law; a "chastisement" in the army was 39 lashes with a 3 strand leather whip; which would have constituted 13 strikes. (39 lashes) So no, Jesus would not have been struck with an "execution flagellum" because that was a death reserved for soldiers.
 
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1 Corinthians 11:
2 I praise you for remembering me in everything and for holding to the traditions just as I passed them on to you. 3 But I want you to realize that the head of every man is Christ, and the head of the woman is man,[a] and the head of Christ is God. 4 Every man who prays or prophesies with his head covered dishonors his head. 5 But every woman who prays or prophesies with her head uncovered dishonors her head—it is the same as having her head shaved.6 For if a woman does not cover her head, she might as well have her hair cut off; but if it is a disgrace for a woman to have her hair cut off or her head shaved, then she should cover her head.

7 A man ought not to cover his head,[b] since he is the image and glory of God; but woman is the glory of man. 8 For man did not come from woman, but woman from man; 9 neither was man created for woman, but woman for man. 10 It is for this reason that a woman ought to have authority over her own[c] head, because of the angels. 11 Nevertheless, in the Lord woman is not independent of man, nor is man independent of woman. 12 For as woman came from man, so also man is born of woman. But everything comes from God.


I just bought a hat and now dont know if i can wear it. What do you guys think?

Don't wear a hat when you worship the Lord .... outside of that there isn't a problem, unless there is something on the hat sends a message
that is not in line with the Lords precepts.
 
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thanks guys i will not wear a hat in church and also i will try and not pray when wearing a hat its just difficult to not pray
I pray in the bath and in bed.
I honestly don't believe the Lord minds whether you wear a hat or not. But if it would bother you to wear one, it's best not to.
 
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Don't wear a hat when you worship the Lord .... outside of that there isn't a problem, unless there is something on the hat sends a message
that is not in line with the Lords precepts.
So the Lord will get annoyed if we worship him with something on our heads?
Paul tells us to pray at all times and give thanks is all circumstances. If you believe it is wrong to pray and wear a hat, you can never wear a hat again.
Personally, I think the Lord may be more concerned if we don't worship him at all.
 
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