Evidence Noah's Biblical Flood Happened, Says Robert Ballard

Diamond7 · Feb 23, 2023

Evidence Noah's Biblical Flood Happened, Says Robert Ballard

In an interview with Christiane Amanpour for ABC News, Dr. Robert Ballard, one of the world's leading underwater archaeologists, talked about his findings. His team is scouring the depths of the Black Sea in Turkey in search of traces of an ancient civilization hidden underwater since the time...

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https://www.cnn.com/travel/article/robert-ballard-man-who-found-the-titanic-cmd/index.html

We know that Noah's flood took place in the Euphrates River Valley. But it was about the same time as Robert Ballard's flood in the Black Sea. He sees a connection between this and Noah's flood in the Persian Gulf. The Black sea is a lot safer to do research right now. There are wars in the Persian Gulf and it is not safe to do any research there with our modern technology. Even the underwater cameras that Ballard uses have improved. I asked my son to work on that. In the Titanic movie, they actually used Ballard's video from his work on the Titanic. Although he never claimed the Titanic, which turned out to be a big mistake.

Despite objections, the auction of Titanic artifacts did take place in 2018, with the collection eventually being sold to a group of investors for $19.5 million. However, the future of the artifacts remains uncertain, as they are still subject to legal and ethical considerations and may not be able to be publicly displayed or sold in the future.

d taylor · Feb 23, 2023

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I do not need a Dr Ballard to tell me a flood happened. God's given account in The Bible is all i need. It is really sad how much of christianity needs science.

Diamond7 · Feb 23, 2023

d taylor said:
I do not need a Dr Ballard to tell me a flood happened. God's given account in The Bible is all i need. It is really sad how much of christianity needs science.

The Bible is all we need but the Bible needs to be translated and interpreted. Even we need to read the original Bible for ourselves because a lot does not get translated. Science helps us to confirm that our translation and interpretation is accurate. God created Science. Do you think He is going to create something and then hide it from us? He wants us to know what He has done. That is why the books are open to us.

The IbanezerScrooge · Feb 23, 2023

This is not "Evidence Noah's Biblical Flood Happened." It is evidence that an event happened on which the biblical flood story may have been based. What Ballard et. al. are describing is not a global flood, but a local event. I would bet that most geologists and other related scientists, even if they don't accept the biblical story at face-value, agree that the story could easily have been inspired by some local event such as this. I'll note that the proposed dates of this flood are about 1000 years older than most creationists think the Earth actually is.

Diamond7 · Feb 23, 2023

The IbanezerScrooge said:
This is not "Evidence Noah's Biblical Flood Happened."

You have not presented any evidence that Noah was not a real person and the flood was not real. Looks to me like you have the burden of proof here, not me.

Larniavc · Feb 23, 2023

Diamond7 said:
You have not presented any evidence that Noah was not a real person and the flood was not real. Looks to me like you have the burden of proof here, not me.

There were and are loads of local floods in that area. The evidence for that is clear.

That there was a flood as described in the Bible is contradicted by the continuous civilisations that have no record of the Noachian flood and geophysical evidences a mile long.

My favourite is how the amount of energy needed for all that rain would have sterilised Earth including Noah’s boat.

Only someone who rejects what we know about physics, geology, hydrology, biology and archeology believes in a Biblical flood.

adrianmonk · Feb 23, 2023

Diamond7 said:
You have not presented any evidence that Noah was not a real person and the flood was not real. Looks to me like you have the burden of proof here, not me.

Are you asking @Larnievc to prove a negative ?

d taylor · Feb 23, 2023

Diamond7 said:
The Bible is all we need but the Bible needs to be translated and interpreted. Even we need to read the original Bible for ourselves because a lot does not get translated. Science helps us to confirm that our translation and interpretation is accurate. God created Science. Do you think He is going to create something and then hide it from us? He wants us to know what He has done. That is why the books are open to us.

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The Bible explains The Bible, science has no part in explaining The Bible, all they (science) offer is lies about God's creation

Diamond7 · Feb 23, 2023

d taylor said:
The Bible explains The Bible, science has no part in explaining The Bible, all they (science) offer is lies about God's creation

Archeology for the last 100 years has done a lot to prove the Bible is accurate and true.

Diamond7 · Feb 23, 2023

adrianmonk said:
Are you asking @Larnievc to prove a negative ?

I am asking him to back up his claim and prove the Bible is not true.

Diamond7 · Feb 23, 2023

Larnievc said:
Only someone who rejects what we know about physics, geology, hydrology, biology and archeology believes in a Biblical flood.

Then present your evidence. You make claims with nothing to back it up.

The IbanezerScrooge · Feb 23, 2023

Diamond7 said:
You have not presented any evidence that Noah was not a real person and the flood was not real. Looks to me like you have the burden of proof here, not me.

You do not understand burden of proof. Noah and the flood is the claim. Those who claim it actually happened have the burden to show it to be true. That there is loads and loads of evidence that discounts an event as depicted in the bible is just... well... reality.

adrianmonk · Feb 23, 2023

Diamond7 said:
I am asking him to back up his claim and prove the Bible is not true.

The Burden of Proof

AV1611VET · Feb 23, 2023

Larnievc said:
That there was a flood as described in the Bible is contradicted by the continuous civilisations that have no record of the Noachian flood and geophysical evidences a mile long.

That there was a Chicxulub crater impact is contradicted by the continuous civilizations that have no record of the Chicxulub crater impact.

AV1611VET · Feb 23, 2023

adrianmonk said:
Are you asking @Larnievc to prove a negative ?

Larnievc is expecting to see records of events from within the archives of civilizations that weren't even on the earth at the time said events took place.

All these johnny-come-lately civilizations can do is take what "civilization" was there and wrote about it.

The fact that some civilizations tried to write about the Flood as if they were present at the time -- and got all the details wrong -- is good enough to convince me they were just plagiarizing Noah's story after the fact.

AV1611VET · Feb 23, 2023

Diamond7 said:
Archeology for the last 100 years has done a lot to prove the Bible is accurate and true.

Archaeology's record of the Flood leaves much to be desired.

Number One: Archaeology doesn't have a thing to work with to submit as evidence (since it was cleaned up).

Number Two: Archaeology, like any modern science today, mostly runs on trial-and-error, relies on computer programs to keep their junk straight, and runs on the GIGO principle.

AV1611VET · Feb 23, 2023

The IbanezerScrooge said:
You do not understand burden of proof.

The burden of proof is built into the Bible.

Why do you think the Bible consists of what are called "testaments"?

GenemZ · Feb 23, 2023

d taylor said:
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I do not need a Dr Ballard to tell me a flood happened. God's given account in The Bible is all i need. It is really sad how much of christianity needs science.

Its not we who need it.
We have a need to defend the faith to leave those wishing to do harm to be restrained.
And, some Christians set a self righteous approach that demands an attack.

Science brings it into the realm of objectivity when the science is good, and when it agrees with an accurate understanding of the Bible.

God created scientific brains, just like He created the artist.

Science, when its virtuously applied, gives glory to God in revealing the beyond genius of God as revealed in what He has created.

d taylor · Feb 23, 2023

Diamond7 said:
Archeology for the last 100 years has done a lot to prove the Bible is accurate and true.

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I have not looked into to that area, as like i was saying, i personally need no outside evidence (outside of The Bible for Its truth) even though it (Archeology) may have found links between Biblical accounts and physical evidence.

Diamond7 · Feb 23, 2023

AV1611VET said:
Number One: Archaeology doesn't have a thing to work with to submit as evidence (since it was cleaned up).

Sounds like we are back to nothing again. It was all cleaned up so you have nothing to show. So when the Bible says: come and see the works of God. You say never mind, God cleaned it all up, and there is nothing to see. Although I suppose the work He wants us to see is the finished work of Calvary. So people do not see what God has done to rescue, save, heal, and deliver us from destruction.

Psalm 46:8
Come, see the works of the LORD, who brings devastation upon the earth.

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