Did student know this was a Gay Cake?

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Also, why do you care what your aunt thinks?
Because, I don't need a hour lecture about how evil LGBT and liberals are. And to keep peace in the family.
 
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Neither do LGBTQQIP2SAA+ rainbow symbols used on flags, clothing, cakes etc. Which is why you're making a false equivalency.

Earlier I mentioned a cake with a pentagram on it. A pentagram is a star, and stars occur naturally right? Is a star you see at night the same thing as a pentagram?
Gee, like the fifty pentagrams on the flag of The United States of America?
Gosh!
 
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Gee, like the fifty pentagrams on the flag of The United States of America?
Gosh!
A pentagram is a star, and stars occur naturally right? Are the stars you see in the sky at night the same thing as the pentagrams on the flag of The United States of America?

Did you think you had outsmarted me? ^_^
 
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Pentagrams are not usually considered taboo. However, a Pentacle usually is. A Pentacle is used by Satanists and others as an emblem of their worship. A Pentacle is a Pentagram with a circle around it.
That's what I was referring to of course. But most people just call it a Pentagram.
 
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"blame" is usually something people do to one another when something has gone wrong. You think it's wrong to have a rainbow birthday cake and a rainbow shirt. But we shouldn't just accept your weird and off putting position of trying to be angry about things (and place blame for?) for things like like "people being gay", or "liking rainbows" or "rainbow cakes".
 
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Because, I don't need a hour lecture about how evil LGBT and liberals are. And to keep peace in the family.

I suppose that makes sense.

My parents used to be like that, but stopped trying to lecturing me about such things when I started to speak up for myself in life.

Your mileage may vary. Some people you can talk to, and others can't let these issues go.
 
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A pentagram is a star, and stars occur naturally right? Are the stars you see in the sky at night the same thing as the pentagrams on the flag of The United States of America?

Did you think you had outsmarted me? ^_^
You might wanna look up thread where I stated my acquiescence with the school’s choice to expel this student.
 
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It is not clear if she knew what this cake represents or maybe she just thought it was pretty.


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A couple points of order (based on the article and some of the replies I'm reading):

1) Since when does one group own the vague concept of refractive light and it can mean nothing else?

2) The NBC article references the school giving her a book by an "ex-gay", there's no such thing. There's straight, gay, bisexual. In my experience, people who claim to be "ex-gay" in order to fit in with a religious group are either bisexual and have chosen cut out half of their possible dating pool and stick with the half that keeps them in their church's good graces (pun intended), or they're still gay and they're forcing themselves to "be straight" even though it's not their actual preference and it's usually painfully obvious.

3) A "private school can do what they want" isn't an absolute. While they do have additional flexibility with regards to certain topics, both public (state-level) and private entities have leverage in terms of funding and accreditation and could pull those levers if they wanted to.


4) If it's a case where this young girl actually is gay, and this private school is responding to it by plying her with anti-gay propaganda, then attempting to make her a social pariah among her circle of friends, then this school is the kind of institution that drives young kids to commit suicide...shame on them.
 
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A couple points of order (based on the article and some of the replies I'm reading):

1) Since when does one group own the vague concept of refractive light and it can mean nothing else?
Like I pointed out, for thousands of years multiple groups used the swastika which was an innocuous symbole, until Naizis used it as their main emblem. Now when most of the world sees a swastika, they see a Nazi emblem. Likewise rainbow stripes on emblems, clothing and other items just looked colorful and festive. Now when people see it, they see the LGBTQQIP2SAA+ symbol because it's been used so excessively as the symbol for that.
2) The NBC article references the school giving her a book by an "ex-gay", there's no such thing. There's straight, gay, bisexual. In my experience, people who claim to be "ex-gay" in order to fit in with a religious group are either bisexual and have chosen cut out half of their possible dating pool and stick with the half that keeps them in their church's good graces (pun intended), or they're still gay and they're forcing themselves to "be straight" even though it's not their actual preference and it's usually painfully obvious.
Many people who come to Christ do a 180 on regarding many things. Have you ever listened to "ex-gays" talk about their experience in depth? There's lots of videos on YouTube with that content. Maybe after you're more familiar with what they have to say, it will change your opinion.
3) A "private school can do what they want" isn't an absolute. While they do have additional flexibility with regards to certain topics, both public (state-level) and private entities have leverage in terms of funding and accreditation and could pull those levers if they wanted to.
Not sure what your point is.
4) If it's a case where this young girl actually is gay, and this private school is responding to it by plying her with anti-gay propaganda, then attempting to make her a social pariah among her circle of friends, then this school is the kind of institution that drives young kids to commit suicide...shame on them.
Talk about leverage. The whole 'you must accept and embrace LGBTQQIP2SAA+ or people will kill themselves' is a massive lever.
 
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My wife and I were at the grocery store yesterday and I saw a rainbow cake in the bakery. It was only 5 colors but still had the effect that the liberals and their agendas planed. I immediately felt the urge to get divorced and start randomly kissing men with unkempt beards. My wife saw the warning signs and immediately got me out and set me in front of the TV and had me watch the 1984 Red Dawn five times. Crisis avoided.
Funny!
 
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Why have the gays adopted the rainbow as their signature?
Because they really like Pink Floyd

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Pentagrams are not usually considered taboo. However, a Pentacle usually is. A Pentacle is used by Satanists and others as an emblem of their worship. A Pentacle is a Pentagram with a circle around it.
the Pentacle was associated with the planet Venus, Christians stole it and repurposed it when they started making up satanism.
 
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Many people who come to Christ do a 180 on regarding many things. Have you ever listened to "ex-gays" talk about their experience in depth? There's lots of videos on YouTube with that content. Maybe after you're more familiar with what they have to say, it will change your opinion.
they say a lot of stuff but they never ever say "I am a heterosexual"
Not sure what your point is.

Talk about leverage. The whole 'you must accept and embrace LGBTQQIP2SAA+ or people will kill themselves' is a massive lever.
Accept? People just want the hate and the abuse to stop.
 
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Many people who come to Christ do a 180 on regarding many things. Have you ever listened to "ex-gays" talk about their experience in depth? There's lots of videos on YouTube with that content. Maybe after you're more familiar with what they have to say, it will change your opinion.
Like with many other things, there's an attempt to decouple desires from actions and separate biological drives from behaviors.

Sometimes it's for a good reason (for instance, a person who has a drive to eat massive amounts of sweets, but suppresses their urges to do so in the name of health), other times it's for reasons that are rather arbitrary (like suppressing something that wasn't causing any harm, but doing so out of fear that one may be ostracized from a particular social circle)
Not sure what your point is.
There were some that were suggesting that a school being "private" instead of "public" means they could operate with impunity.
Talk about leverage. The whole 'you must accept and embrace LGBTQQIP2SAA+ or people will kill themselves' is a massive lever.
Nobody's saying one has to "embrace" anything, much less the entirety of LGBTQQIP2SAA+ movement...

There's a lot of middle ground between "embracing the movement in its entirety" and subjecting adolescents to, what sounds like, an attempt at some form of conversion therapy with the looming threat of expulsion from school if they don't comply.
 
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Like with many other things, there's an attempt to decouple desires from actions and separate biological drives from behaviors.

Sometimes it's for a good reason (for instance, a person who has a drive to eat massive amounts of sweets, but suppresses their urges to do so in the name of health), other times it's for reasons that are rather arbitrary (like suppressing something that wasn't causing any harm, but doing so out of fear that one may be ostracized from a particular social circle)
I'm talking about spontaious change, which many Christians have described as happening to them.
There were some that were suggesting that a school being "private" instead of "public" means they could operate with impunity.

Nobody's saying one has to "embrace" anything, much less the entirety of LGBTQQIP2SAA+ movement...
Sure there is, that's why the words "homophobic" and "transphobic" etc were invented.
There's a lot of middle ground between "embracing the movement in its entirety" and subjecting adolescents to, what sounds like, an attempt at some form of conversion therapy with the looming threat of expulsion from school if they don't comply.
The Christian view is it's the same as any other destructive tendency such as promiscuity, lewd behavior, nimphomania and other such behaviors that need to be or should be fixed. Those who don't agree with and object to the Christian view, shouldn't bring it into a Christian controlled environment. For example there's a lot of things you can't post here without getting banned because this forum is a Christian controlled environment.
 
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I'm talking about spontaious change, which many Christians have described as happening to them.
No, there is no change spontaneous or otherwise. Ex-gays are not straight and they are careful to never say so.
Sure there is, that's why the words "homophobic" and "transphobic" etc were invented.
The words were coined to describe specific behavior. they moved into common usage because they described things well.
The Christian view it's the same as any other destructive tendency such as promiscuity, lewd behavior, nimphomania and other such behaviors that need to be or should be fixed.
homosexuality and transexuality are not behaviors, they are not tendencies, and they aren't destructive
 
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