A list of Trump's Legal Challenges--From Stolen Documents Hidden in Mar a Lago to the Georgia Phone Call

Rodneyk said:

I didn’t say “what about” anything. It just seems to me that the left would have some credibility if they were consistent.

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You've only been here for a few days. How do you know what any of us have posted in the past. We are not "the left" or "the right" but individuals with actual posting histories.

If you want to argue that Trump is being picked on by the whoever, do so. Be specific.

Nebulous boogymen, broad categories, and "but that guy did it" are meaningless and make poor arguments.

If you want to complain that nobody investigated Obama's history of corporate tax evasion, bring some examples.

Rodneyk said:

I didn’t say “what about” anything. It just seems to me that the left would have some credibility if they were consistent.

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Doesn't matter whether the left is consistent or not. It's the law that's coming down on Trump now.

Hans Blaster said:

You've only been here for a few days. How do you know what any of us have posted in the past. We are not "the left" or "the right" but individuals with actual posting histories.

If you want to argue that Trump is being picked on by the whoever, do so. Be specific.

Nebulous boogymen, broad categories, and "but that guy did it" are meaningless and make poor arguments.

If you want to complain that nobody investigated Obama's history of corporate tax evasion, bring some examples.

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I haven’t said anyone is left or right, I made some observations. Didn’t mean to offend you and I really didn’t know i was supposed to be here for a certain amount of time before I said anything, I apologize. I was looking for a mutually respectful dialogue. I’ll look elsewhere. Thank You

Rodneyk said:

I haven’t said anyone is left or right, I made some observations.

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Ya kinda did:

"When the left turned a blind eye to the corruption of the clintons, obama, schiff, bidens, pelosi and so on,"

If you're unfamiliar with "whataboutism" it's exactly that.

Rodneyk said:

Didn’t mean to offend you and I really didn’t know i was supposed to be here for a certain amount of time before I said anything, I apologize. I was looking for a mutually respectful dialogue. I’ll look elsewhere. Thank You.

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I'm not offended, but you did come in kind of hot and also vague and also jumping the topic around.

Rodneyk said:

Whether or not Trump was or is corrupt and dishonest makes no difference, the left has already condoned it. When the left turned a blind eye to the corruption of the clintons, obama, schiff, bidens, pelosi and so on, they said to the people of the United States that in their minds, corruption is no big deal, corruption is fine, corruption doesn’t bother us.

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It has been determined by the courts that there was no such corruption.

Rodneyk said:

So, it’s too late now to cry foul when someone they don’t like follows in their footsteps, they should have started being concerned in 1993.

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There was nothing in 1993 to be concerned about.

"The Manhattan District Attorney is presenting evidence to a grand jury that former President Donald Trump may have committed crimes in connection with hush money payments to an adult film actress in 2016, according to a person familiar with the investigation.

The move lays the groundwork for possible criminal charges against Trump, who has said he did nothing wrong."

wing2000 said:

"The Manhattan District Attorney is presenting evidence to a grand jury that former President Donald Trump may have committed crimes in connection with hush money payments to an adult film actress in 2016, according to a person familiar with the investigation.

The move lays the groundwork for possible criminal charges against Trump, who has said he did nothing wrong."

https://www.npr.org/2023/01/30/1152610050/manhattan-da-presenting-evidence-in-trump-stormy-daniels-investigation-to-grand-

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It's a sad day when a political candidate can no longer pay off the people they have sex with.

New York State Attorney General Letitia James asked a judge to sanction former President Donald Trump for making “demonstrably false denials” in his answer to her $250 million lawsuit against his business empire.

Calling Trump’s answers to her complaint “deficient in a host of ways,” the attorney general’s senior enforcement counsel Kevin Wallace writes: “Defendants falsely deny facts they have admitted in other proceedings, they deny knowledge sufficient to respond to factual allegations that are plainly within their knowledge, and they propound affirmative defenses that have been repeatedly rejected by this Court as frivolous and without merit.”

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wing2000 said:

"The Manhattan District Attorney is presenting evidence to a grand jury that former President Donald Trump may have committed crimes in connection with hush money payments to an adult film actress in 2016, according to a person familiar with the investigation.

The move lays the groundwork for possible criminal charges against Trump, who has said he did nothing wrong."

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New York prosecutors have invited ex-US president Donald Trump to testify to a grand jury over the Stormy Daniels case, his lawyer has confirmed.
The Manhattan district attorney has investigated Mr Trump for five years over alleged hush money payments made on his behalf to the ex-inappropriate content star.
Inviting him to a grand jury indicates he could face charges, US media report.

The paper said it is a voluntary offer and likely to be declined by Mr Trump.

The case centres on Mr Trump's alleged role in covering up the payment by falsifying his business accounts.

Rodneyk said:

When the left turned a blind eye to the corruption of the clintons, obama, schiff, bidens, pelosi and so on, they said to the people of the United States that in their minds, corruption is no big deal, corruption is fine, corruption doesn’t bother us.

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The Clintons, Obama, Bidens, Schiff, and Pelosi have not been involved in any corruption.

hislegacy said:

Just a reminder that there have been over 300 investigations

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Could you link a list of these supposed 300 investigations? I'd like to see it and make sure it's not like the Donald runs 500 companies claim.

Edit - I see how you're counting now.

hislegacy said:

Well said. Bravo

BTW. I have heard for six years now that Trumps day of reckoning is coming.

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The problem with that mene is he had various AGs running legal interference for him during four of those years.

hislegacy said:

Mueller investigation on top of that all looking for a charge to indict him on something.

That is not two years.

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Mueller found 10 indictable counts of obstruction during his investigation, but Barr refused to charge Donald, so this example actually shows he's only been facing legal jeopardy for 2 years.

The impeachments don't count because they're political in nature rather than legal.

DaisyDay said:

Yeah, I still don't get how he got away with that one.

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Barr protected him.

Rodneyk said:

I didn’t say “what about” anything. It just seems to me that the left would have some credibility if they were consistent.

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The irony in this weapons grade projection is delicious, thought why it's so will not be clear to you.

USincognito said:

Could you link a list of these supposed 300 investigations? I'd like to see it and make sure it's not like the Donald runs 500 companies claim.

Edit - I see how you're counting now.

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Tracking 30 Investigations Related to Trump (Published 2019)

Here is 22 of them from 2021 -

Litigation Tracker: Pending Criminal and Civil Cases Against Donald Trump

Here is another 18

Trump Still Faces More Than a Dozen Investigations

Here is another:

2020 Thematic Brief: Trump Investigations – Third Way

President Trump’s governing style deviates dramatically from the approaches followed by his predecessors. His propensity to ask for foreign interference in American elections, lack of transparency, erratic decision making, political retaliation, and potential self-dealing has led to over 300 House congressional hearings and more than 900 oversight letters into his actions.


900 oversight letters
300 House congressional hearings
60 lawsuits
a 2.5 year investigation costing 40,000,000 - 19 attorney's - 40 FBI Special agents - 2,800 subpoena's - 1,000,000 pages of documentation. Witnesses on two continents questioned.

How many failed investigations does it take until some begin to question the validity.

hislegacy said:

Tracking 30 Investigations Related to Trump (Published 2019)

Here is 22 of them from 2021 -

Litigation Tracker: Pending Criminal and Civil Cases Against Donald Trump

Here is another 18

Trump Still Faces More Than a Dozen Investigations

Here is another:

2020 Thematic Brief: Trump Investigations – Third Way

President Trump’s governing style deviates dramatically from the approaches followed by his predecessors. His propensity to ask for foreign interference in American elections, lack of transparency, erratic decision making, political retaliation, and potential self-dealing has led to over 300 House congressional hearings and more than 900 oversight letters into his actions.


900 oversight letters
300 House congressional hearings
60 lawsuits
a 2.5 year investigation costing 40,000,000 - 19 attorney's - 40 FBI Special agents - 2,800 subpoena's - 1,000,000 pages of documentation. Witnesses on two continents questioned.

How many failed investigations does it take until some begin to question the validity.

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Each hearing is not a separate investigation. There can be several hearings from one investigation. For example, the January 6th Select Committee had multiple hearings but that was only one investigation. Similarly, Jim Jordan is going to have multiple hearings for the Weaponization of the Federal Government Subcommittee but it is only one investigation at this time.

GreatLakes4Ever said:

Each hearing is not a separate investigation. There can be several hearings from one investigation. For example, the January 6th Select Committee had multiple hearings but that was only one investigation. Similarly, Jim Jordan is going to have multiple hearings for the Weaponization of the Federal Government Subcommittee but it is only one investigation at this time.

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If accurate - it doesn't change the number of hearings. I didn't say 300 investigations - I quoted 300 hearings. It also doesn't change the fact nothing chargeable was found.

hislegacy said:

If accurate - it doesn't change the number of hearings. I didn't say 300 investigations - I quoted 300 hearings. It also doesn't change the fact nothing chargeable was found.

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Post #11 of this thread you said 300 investigations.

GreatLakes4Ever said:

Post #11 of this thread you said 300 investigations.

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that was almost four months ago -.

But to clarify:

Tracking 30 Investigations Related to Trump (Published 2019)

Here is 22 of them from 2021 -

Litigation Tracker: Pending Criminal and Civil Cases Against Donald Trump

Here is another 18

Trump Still Faces More Than a Dozen Investigations

Here is another:

2020 Thematic Brief: Trump Investigations – Third Way

President Trump’s governing style deviates dramatically from the approaches followed by his predecessors. His propensity to ask for foreign interference in American elections, lack of transparency, erratic decision making, political retaliation, and potential self-dealing has led to over 300 House congressional hearings and more than 900 oversight letters into his actions.


900 oversight letters
300 House congressional hearings
60 lawsuits
a 2.5 year investigation costing 40,000,000 - 19 attorney's - 40 FBI Special agents - 2,800 subpoena's - 1,000,000 pages of documentation. Witnesses on two continents questioned.

Hope that help clarify my position. Thank you!