Biden was paid $49,910 a month from his son to rent a bedroom

hislegacy said:

The reason why (IMHO) people are becoming skeptical of the media as fact checkers is our ability to read and comprehend.

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Given the pretty egregious factual errors you’ve made on this matter already (aside from the faulty interpretations of the evidence), I don’t think you’re in any position to be lecturing anybody about their reading comprehension.

hislegacy said:

To wit: I offer the following evidence to the contrary:

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Please note the following in Hunter's own handwriting.

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Why do you keep mentioning Hunter’s handwriting? Nobody is contesting the claim that he filled it out.

hislegacy said:

First red box: CURRENT ADDRESS - his daddy's home as already shown

Then the second: CURRENT RESIDENCE That means his current address - they are the SAME


Third red box - MONTHLY RENT -


His monthly rent for his current Residence (his daddy's home) is 49,910.

Either this is accurate as Hunter stated or he is so incompetent, (or perhaps stonned), he does not know the difference between where he lives and his office space AND he does not know the difference between monthly rent on his home and quarterly rent on an office.

Or is it possible that his company was funneling almost 600K to his daddy in the form of rent. That Joe did NOT report on his taxes. Hmmm.....

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It’s also possible that the form itself is poorly designed and doesn’t accommodate well people who have multiple residences and/or who pay rent for multiple entities/properties.

Again, journalists have since gone and done actual journalism and found that the amount in question corresponds to an amount that Hunter paid for office space. Even the reporter who initially tweeted this out has since admitted as much. At this point, your errors are hard to defend as innocent. At this point, you’re choosing to spread lies.

hislegacy said:

For those who think I am mistaken saying Joe did not declare the income on his taxes:

https://joebiden.com/wp-content/uploads/2023/01/Biden-2017-Federal.pdf

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598,000 in rental income not there:

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What an odd response. Why are you talking about this? It’s like you’re not reading any of the replies debunking your posts. Nobody has doubted the claim that Joe never reported it - we don’t think he reported it because we don’t think he received the money in the first place.

hislegacy said:

I will respond to the only sentence on topic -

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oh no, this part was very much on topic, too: “Again, journalists have since gone and done actual journalism and found that the amount in question corresponds to an amount that Hunter paid for office space. Even the reporter who initially tweeted this out has since admitted as much.”

Right wing media has retracted this claim. You’re continuing to repeat it in spite of contradictory evidence.

hislegacy said:

The form as shown a number times now is clear and plainly stated. If you think I believe a person who has multiple residences and or pay rent on multiple entities is not able to accurate furnish such complicated things as current address and current rent, you are mistaken.

The person either has an IQ below reading comprehension level of a child or is under the influence of some type of psychotropic drug or medication.

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Wait, are IQ’s and reading comprehension off topic or on topic? You’re the one who keeps bringing them up, but you’re the one who got basic facts about the form wrong and you’re the one who continues to repeat claims that even partisan right-wing media has retracted.

But please, continue telling us about how other people are stupid.

hislegacy said:

The reason why (IMHO) people are becoming skeptical of the media as fact checkers is our ability to read and comprehend. To wit: I offer the following evidence to the contrary:

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Please note the following in Hunter's own handwriting.

First red box: CURRENT ADDRESS - his daddy's home as already shown

Then the second: CURRENT RESIDENCE That means his current address - they are the SAME

Third red box - MONTHLY RENT -

His monthly rent for his current Residence (his daddy's home) is 49,910.​

Either this is accurate as Hunter stated or he is so incompetent, (or perhaps stonned), he does not know the difference between where he lives and his office space AND he does not know the difference between monthly rent on his home and quarterly rent on an office.

Or is it possible that his company was funneling almost 600K to his daddy in the form of rent. That Joe did NOT report on his taxes. Hmmm.....

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The part of the form shown doesn’t ask where the property he is renting is. But we know from other data that it wasn’t Biden‘s home. It pretty common for credit checks to ask current and previous residences. If this were the property being rented, why would they ask previous residence?

hislegacy said:

I am not reading any of the replies that debunk? Less than 13 min ago, You yourself responded in post #21 to post #20 where I disputed the 'debunking' and showed factually why it is wrong.

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I directly addressed that post when I said this: “It’s also possible that the form itself is poorly designed and doesn’t accommodate well people who have multiple residences and/or who pay rent for multiple entities/properties.”

Nobody disputes that your interpretation isn’t a reasonable first impression of the form. The form is a little ambiguous and on top of that, Hunter filled it out in a way that wasn’t very clear. It does look like he paid that money to Joe. But as subsequent journalism found, and as has been communicated to you multiple times, that’s not what happened. At this point, you’re choosing to believe and propagate a falsehood.

hislegacy said:

What are the basic facts about the form I got wrong?

His current address or his monthly rent?

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I was referring to Post 13, where you got wrong both his current address and the one to which he was applying.

You’re also wrong about the address for which his rent applied. That particular error can’t be deduced from the application, but rather was uncovered by subsequent reporting. I wouldn’t fault anybody for the initial misunderstanding, but continuing to push the error after it’s been shown to be wrong is… problematic.

Apparently you’re also wrong about his handwriting- further reporting has found that this was filled out by an assistant.

hislegacy said:

Ok -

Am I wrong about the current address?
Am I wrong about the MONTHLY rent?

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As has already been explained to you, multiple times, you’re wrong about the address to which that rent figure applies.

But this is getting ridiculous. I and others have already made our cases numerous times. Everything about this case has already been laid out for you. If you can’t understand how you’re wrong or you choose to not acknowledge the myriad ways in which it’s already been debunked, including by the right-wing outlets who originally reported it, then there’s no point in talking to you. This thread should be consigned to the conspiracy theory forum.

hislegacy said:

Prove it - show Hunter was not living at his fathers house at that time - because even Hunter does not dispute that.

Also explain how the 'assistant' knew all his personal information, including DL# and Social Security number - but was incorrect on where he was living and what he was paying for monthly rent.

I don't believe anything from "journalist" any more -

I would request actual proof.

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You really don’t understand what anybody has been telling you, do you?

hislegacy said:

I fully and completely without reservation understand what you have been saying.

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You clearly don't. On multiple occasions, you've made rebuttals to arguments that nobody is making and have consistently failed to address the one argument that everybody else is making - i.e. that regardless of how the fields on the form are labeled, regardless of how accurate or inaccurate Hunter's claims on the form may have been, the rent amount that Hunter put down was an amount that he paid for commercial real estate, not an amount he paid to his father. Pointing out where he was residing does not rebut that.

If you want to say that the form itself is confusing, fine.
If you want to say that he filled out the form inaccurately, fine.
If you want to say that he filled out the form in a way that was misleading or even dishonest, fine.

I have zero problem with any of those claims. What I do have a problem with is the claim that he paid that $50k to his dad.

hislegacy said:

I don’t believe you, because the truth is obvious. And unless you have proof beyond what some reporter says, I can not believe you.

I read too much to fall for that.

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Baloney. You are only aware of this story because some reporter obtained a copy of that form and put it on Twitter. "What some reporter says" is the entire basis for your position here. You have absolutely zero insight into this subject beyond "what some reporter says." But speaking of reporters, let's revisit what that reporter said, shall we? Here's the link from your OP:

The one source in that article for the rental form is a tweet from Miranda Devine, a reporter at the NY Post. Here is that tweet:


Here are subsequent tweets from that same account pointing out that the rent figure is likely the amount he paid per quarter for an office: