Congresswoman cites Jeremiah 1:5 in support of abortion

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I'm in the middle of editing this story right now so I'll post the finished product later tonight after it airs, but I was shocked. As I was working on it I thought congresswoman Hillary Scholten, a freshman from Michigan, was a prolife democrat using the scripture to point to the fact that the baby is alive and a person before it's born. That's what we've always used that passage to point out, and that's the reality of the situation.

Instead she hijacked it and flipped it to suggest that it's phrasing "I placed you in your mothers womb" proves it's the mother's choice to abort, and not the business of government.

I don't think I've ever seen anything so diabolical in politics. This is a new breed of liberals who are going to twist and shove our faith and morals in our face to weaponize them against us and progress a WICKED agenda. They have no rules, honor, or dignity. They hold us to higher standards but refuse to be held to the same. Beware.

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I'm in the middle of editing this story right now so I'll post the finished product later tonight after it airs, but I was shocked. As I was working on it I thought congresswoman Hillary Scholten, a freshman from Michigan, was a prolife democrat using the scripture to point to the fact that the baby is alive and a person before it's born. That's what we've always used that passage to point out, and that's the reality of the situation.

Instead she hijacked it and flipped it to suggest that it's phrasing "I placed you in your mothers womb" proves it's the mother's choice to abort, and not the business of government.

I don't think I've ever seen anything so diabolical in politics. This is a new breed of liberals who are going to twist and shove our faith and morals in our face to weaponize them against us and progress a WICKED agenda. They have no rules, honor, or dignity. They hold us to higher standards but refuse to be held to the same. Beware.

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He says 'I knew you before I knit you in the womb...'

He is of course speaking to all who are alive outside the mothers womb to understand He knew us prior.
Who would He be speaking to if all mothers had the option?

It would seem He is stating it is HIS option alone to create and know the life we would lead if we do HIS WILL.
 
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FURTHERMORE:


5 Before I formed thee in the belly I knew thee; and before thou camest forth out of the womb I sanctified thee, and I ordained thee a prophet unto the nations.

He knew the destiny of His creature.
He knows all.
Despite knowing all, He gives innocent children much love to know Him. But unfortunately the one of the world seeks to destroy.
For want to do the Lord's will, He knows who has that want.

He made Jeremiah Holy before he was born because HIS GREAT LOVE for all especially the lost. And he set up Jeremiah to help the lost, not to scoff at them but help them. Not all will have those gifts but He gives special help to those whom He choses to help many.

How could she high jack such a verse?
Yes she is obtuse, obviously.

He did not set Jeremiah in the womb for the mothers choice to destroy the destiny HE spoke of.
Obviously, stating He made us in the womb and stating the ordained destiny is correctly understood that the child would and must live to help others.

Lord, help us have patience with the ignorant and lost insolent. We need your Spirit.
 
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He says 'I knew you before I knit you in the womb...'

He is of course speaking to all who are alive outside the mothers womb to understand He knew us prior.
Who would He be speaking to if all mothers had the option?

It would seem He is stating it is HIS option alone to create and know the life we wou lead if we do HIS WILL.
Scripture taken out if context that is so popular these days.
 
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Scripture taken out if context that is so popular these days.
Especially by the diabolical left. Trying to use our weapons against us, the wretches.
 
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Especially by the diabolical left. Trying to use our weapons against us, the wretches.
Reminds me of Kamala Harris speaking at a Baptist Church on the blessings of abortion.
 
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I wish I could 'post' back to her nonsense.

It's very evident the Lord is clearly stating the GOOD He ordains on the children He knits in the womb for loving others...
Not for destruction and darn well not for the human womans choice to destroy that destiny.
 
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Reminds me of Kamala Harris speaking at a Baptist Church on the blessings of abortion.
Isn't that just heinous?

It reminds me of the passage from Isaiah 5, "Woe unto those that call evil good, and good evil; that put darkness for light, and light for darkness; who put bitter for sweet and sweet for bitter!"
 
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When Cardi B thanked God for winning an award for her WAP "song" (vomit) I officially lost the last bit of hope
Society has fallen a long way from the masterwork of Mozart and Chopin, it's embarrassing.
 
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Sadly, the time has come that Saint Paul prophesied in this passage of the Book of 2 Timothy:

2 Timothy 4:1-4 RSV-CE I charge you in the presence of God and of Christ Jesus who is to judge the living and the dead, and by his appearing and his kingdom: (2) preach the word, be urgent in season and out of season, convince, rebuke, and exhort, be unfailing in patience and in teaching. (3) For the time is coming when people will not endure sound teaching, but having itching ears they will accumulate for themselves teachers to suit their own likings, (4) and will turn away from listening to the truth and wander into myths.

Here is another Bible passage that I find to be relevant:

Galatians 1:6-10 RSV-CE (6) I am astonished that you are so quickly deserting him who called you in the grace of Christ and turning to a different gospel-- (7) not that there is another gospel, but there are some who trouble you and want to pervert the gospel of Christ. (8) But even if we, or an angel from heaven, should preach to you a gospel contrary to that which we preached to you, let him be accursed. (9) As we have said before, so now I say again, If any one is preaching to you a gospel contrary to that which you received, let him be accursed. (10) Am I now seeking the favor of men, or of God? Or am I trying to please men? If I were still pleasing men, I should not be a servant of Christ.

Lastly, I find this long passage from the Bible to be especially relevant:

2 Peter 2:1-22 RSV-CE But false prophets also arose among the people, just as there will be false teachers among you, who will secretly bring in destructive heresies, even denying the Master who bought them, bringing upon themselves swift destruction. (2) And many will follow their licentiousness, and because of them the way of truth will be reviled. (3) And in their greed they will exploit you with false words; from of old their condemnation has not been idle, and their destruction has not been asleep. (4) For if God did not spare the angels when they sinned, but cast them into hell and committed them to pits of nether gloom to be kept until the judgment; (5) if he did not spare the ancient world, but preserved Noah, a herald of righteousness, with seven other persons, when he brought a flood upon the world of the ungodly; (6) if by turning the cities of Sodom and Gomor'rah to ashes he condemned them to extinction and made them an example to those who were to be ungodly; (7) and if he rescued righteous Lot, greatly distressed by the licentiousness of the wicked (8) (for by what that righteous man saw and heard as he lived among them, he was vexed in his righteous soul day after day with their lawless deeds), (9) then the Lord knows how to rescue the godly from trial, and to keep the unrighteous under punishment until the day of judgment, (10) and especially those who indulge in the lust of defiling passion and despise authority. Bold and wilful, they are not afraid to revile the glorious ones, (11) whereas angels, though greater in might and power, do not pronounce a reviling judgment upon them before the Lord. (12) But these, like irrational animals, creatures of instinct, born to be caught and killed, reviling in matters of which they are ignorant, will be destroyed in the same destruction with them, (13) suffering wrong for their wrongdoing. They count it pleasure to revel in the daytime. They are blots and blemishes, reveling in their dissipation, carousing with you. (14) They have eyes full of adultery, insatiable for sin. They entice unsteady souls. They have hearts trained in greed. Accursed children! (15) Forsaking the right way they have gone astray; they have followed the way of Balaam, the son of Be'or, who loved gain from wrongdoing, (16) but was rebuked for his own transgression; a dumb ass spoke with human voice and restrained the prophet's madness. (17) These are waterless springs and mists driven by a storm; for them the nether gloom of darkness has been reserved. (18) For, uttering loud boasts of folly, they entice with licentious passions of the flesh men who have barely escaped from those who live in error. (19) They promise them freedom, but they themselves are slaves of corruption; for whatever overcomes a man, to that he is enslaved. (20) For if, after they have escaped the defilements of the world through the knowledge of our Lord and Savior Jesus Christ, they are again entangled in them and overpowered, the last state has become worse for them than the first. (21) For it would have been better for them never to have known the way of righteousness than after knowing it to turn back from the holy commandment delivered to them. (22) It has happened to them according to the true proverb, The dog turns back to his own vomit, and the sow is washed only to wallow in the mire.

So anyway, this is why we need the authority of the Catholic Church. The Bible can only be correctly interpreted by the Magisterium of the Catholic Church. The Catholic Church wrote the Bible and so she is the correct interpreter of the Bible. Sadly, many people do not realize this and so they twist the Bible to mean things that it does not mean.
 
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Jeremiah 1:5 KJV Before I formed thee in the belly I knew thee; and before thou camest forth out of the womb I sanctified thee, and I ordained thee a prophet unto the nations.

Father god hates abortions. He wants to destroy anyone who has an abortion. It makes him VERY angry. You broke his law and you must suffer the consequence of your Sin.

Thank God Jesus fulfilled the Law with His life, so there is no more condemnation or wrath for those who abide in Christ. The veil of the temple was torn so that we might have life, and communion with God the Father who is Merciful, forgiving and kind, and the God who gives you His SPIRIT, NOT your flesh body!

If you belong to the second group then it is NOT your business to judge the world. Mind your own business and tend to your own affairs. Christ is not instructing you to protest against pro-choice groups. The voice you think is God is actually anti-Christ and his minions. They are stealing your TIME so that you do not rise up against more important matters. Pro-life/pro-choice drama is a distraction. Your pastors who are guiding you to do these things are working for the devil, not Christ. They make secrete agreements with their masters, in the dark, concerning which way to lead you, like sheep being led to the....
 
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If you belong to the second group then it is NOT your business to judge the world. Mind your own business and tend to your own affairs. Christ is not instructing you to protest against pro-choice groups. The voice you think is God is actually anti-Christ and his minions. They are stealing your TIME so that you do not rise up against more important matters. Pro-life/pro-choice drama is a distraction. Your pastors who are guiding you to do these things are working for the devil, not Christ. They make secrete agreements with their masters, in the dark, concerning which way to lead you, like sheep being led to the....
You are incorrect, it is our solemn duty to defend the dignity of all life. That's long been a position of the Catholic Church. Abortion is an egregious moral error, and error has no rights.

I would remind you that you're posting in a thread in the Catholic sub-forum. You're welcome to post in fellowship but that's all the rules allow, you cannot presume to teach what the Catholic Church believes and you cannot speak against the Church in this space. You can virtually anywhere else on this site though.
 
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