Sonworshipper,
AHHH!!! forgive me. I must have glanced over your name a little too quickly.
bah humbug. my appologies.
RobSav,
Muslims believe that their house is the true house of Israel.
Actually, that's untrue. Islam teaches the destruction of Israel, and if you were to tell a Muslim that they are the true house of Israel, I'm sure you'd find a whole new list of obscenities you never knew existed... lol.
They require the lost house of Israel to be of Ephraim ...
As you can clearly see, I stated that the lost tribes are just that...
tribes (notice that's plural)... and these 'tribes' are referred to as
Ephraim. The reason why Ephraimism exists is because many fail to see the prophetic idiom used, and think that 'Ephraim' is to be taken literally... and ignore the other tribes.
Make no mistake, I do not think that what so ever.
If an Ephraimite accepts Yeshua he/she is still not Jewish.
I would never accept the idea that anyone merely accepting 'Yeshua' would make them Jewish. If they want to convert, there is a formal process laid out by the Beit Din that they would submit themselves under.
We Gentiles still remain Gentiles.
My point is...
in prophecy, the term 'gentile' must be examined. In Mishnaic and Talmudic literature, 'gentile' is often used to refer to the Jews who were a part of the Diaspora and left their true place of worship before Adonai. When a person of Jewish ancestory returns unto the G-d of Israel, they are 'reborn' (for a lack of better words) into the Jewish faith. They should then be accepted as a Jew in fulness.
However, a gentile not of Jewish ancestral heritage must go through full conversion.
concerning christianity:
Some perhaps, the more proud ones say that the true house of Israel were never the Jews in the first place, or that by Yeshua concentrating soley for the "lost house", which is Ephraim; which you stated.
This is not a mainstream teaching of christianity, and would most likely be rejected by all major denominations. It is british israelism repackaged, and is viewed as a cult in christianity.
I don't think Yeshua was too concerned with gathering the lost of any particular tribe of that time.
Again, 'Ephraim' as is used in prohpecy is a Jewish idiom referring to the lost tribes of Israel. No, he did not go seek out any specific tribe... but instead to the lost sheep (all lost tribes) of Israel. "Lost" meaning away from Hashem, not physically lost in the world (british israelism all over again).
Shalom,
Yafet.