Upper mismanagement

timothyu · Dec 5, 2022

The majority of problems in this world are for the most part due to those who do not see anything greater than themselves. Of course in today's world these elites are amalgamating into a new global Mt Olympus. Does God take kindly to those who put their will ahead of His?

Tinker Grey · Dec 5, 2022

I'd venture that the majority of problems in this world are for the most part due to those that imagine a supreme being and that that supreme being hates all the same people they do. (With apologies to Anne Lamott.)

timothyu · Dec 5, 2022

Tinker Grey said:
I'd venture that the majority of problems in this world are for the most part due to those that imagine a supreme being and that that supreme being hates all the same people they do. (With apologies to Anne Lamott.)

I think you will find that those that 'use' God to suit their purposes (including within the church) see their will as being more important than His. If they followed God's will they would be caring for others rather than self interests. It's pretty easy to spot a fraud.

Robban · Dec 5, 2022

timothyu said:
The majority of problems in this world are for the most part due to those who do not see anything greater than themselves. Of course in today's world these elites are amalgamating into a new global Mt Olympus. Does God take kindly to those who put their will ahead of His?

His kindness is forever.

Robban · Dec 5, 2022

Robban said:
His kindness is forever.

Psalms 136:1-26........His kindness is eternal

timothyu · Dec 5, 2022

Haven't seen much repentance of this self righteousness to merit it

Robban · Dec 5, 2022

timothyu said:
Haven't seen much repentance of this self righteousness to merit it

His goodness is forever.

Repentance/teshuva,
is to return, if it is to return then it must mean one is or has been somewhere else.

disciple Clint · Dec 5, 2022

Tinker Grey said:
I'd venture that the majority of problems in this world are for the most part due to those that imagine a supreme being and that that supreme being hates all the same people they do. (With apologies to Anne Lamott.)

God does not hate people, any people, it would be wise to try to understand who God is before deciding how he acts.

timothyu · Dec 5, 2022

Robban said:
Repentance/teshuva,
is to return, if it is to return then it must mean one is or has been somewhere else.

Right.. following the will of man rather than of God

nhisname · Dec 5, 2022

disciple Clint said:
God does not hate people, any people, it would be wise to try to understand who God is before deciding how he acts.

Proverbs 6:16
There are six things the Lord hates, seven that are detestable to him: haughty eyes, a lying tongue, hands that shed innocent blood, a heart that devises wicked schemes, feet that are quick to rush into evil, a false witness who pours out lies and a person who stirs up conflict in the community.
God hates sin

disciple Clint · Dec 5, 2022

nhisname said:
Proverbs 6:16
There are six things the Lord hates, seven that are detestable to him: haughty eyes, a lying tongue, hands that shed innocent blood, a heart that devises wicked schemes, feet that are quick to rush into evil, a false witness who pours out lies and a person who stirs up conflict in the community.
God hates sin

As I said God does not hate, God is Love, God dislikes or rejects sin and sinful actions and not the people who produce those acts.

timothyu · Dec 6, 2022

Yet many who are not in the book will become toast

Robban · Dec 6, 2022

timothyu said:
Yet many who are not in the book will become toast

When the prosperity of the wicked flourishes,

pay it no heed.

If it goes so well for the wicked,
how much better will it be for those who serve Him?

(From an intrduction to a Psalm) .

Ligurian · Dec 9, 2022

Robban said:
His goodness is forever.

Repentance/teshuva,
is to return, if it is to return then it must mean one is or has been somewhere else.

To return means go back to that which is yours... not to go somewhere new.

timothyu · Dec 9, 2022

Ligurian said:
A selfish person will always think he's the leader of the pack, so he'll think that God made everyone else to be his minions.

Or misuse God's will which is care for each other, as an opportunity to profit or in the case of the WEF, rule the world in order to be our saviours.

timothyu · Dec 9, 2022

Yes care is best performed with nothing expected in return except for maybe hope of being cared for by others in your own time of need. It was the concept behind God's will, Jesus' teachings, and of course the Way

Robban · Dec 10, 2022

Ligurian said:
To return means go back to that which is yours... not to go somewhere new.

Obviously.

The prodigal son came to his senses and reurned home..

Robban · Dec 12, 2022

Ligurian said:
My point is that, in your scenario, only Jacob would be returning home... but the gentiles would be going somewhere new, not returning... and not being under the Mosaic law have nothing of which to repent, so then, why would they be redeemed?

We all have a soul, we are all born with an animal soul and an evil inclination.

But also a Godly part which yearns to connect with it's source, to return to it's rightful home, the Palace.

That is why when the Godly part is awakened the evil inclination does all it can to squelch it.

Head knowledge is or can be a cop out,

timothyu · Dec 12, 2022

Think of it as the immune system, our animal nature, that is constantly rejecting this foreign body called God. Allowing God to function and operate through us to communicate with Him can be compared to a vaccine that allows bots to transmit info within us to the digital web. See how the adversarial spirit of man of today copies the ways of God as is the way of the Adversary itself? Who do the plans of present day upper management work for, God or a faux entity?

Robban · Dec 12, 2022

timothyu said:
Think of it as the immune system, our animal nature, that is constantly rejecting this foreign body called God. Allowing God to function and operate through us to communicate with Him can be compared to a vaccine that allows bots to transmit info within us to the digital web. See how the adversarial spirit of man of today copies the ways of God as is the way of the Adversary itself? Who do the plans of present d upper management work for, God or a faux entity?

The animal soul is driven by the quest for self-preervation and self enhancement;

in this, it resembles the soul and self of all other creations.

But we also possess a Godly soul--a soul driven by the desire to reconnect with its source.

Simply put.

I think I know what you mean though.

Going in back in time nothing has changed that muchl

"The mind and heart of man is never empty,

if there is no water therein, there are snakes and scorpåons."

Water meaning Torah.

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