• The General Mental Health Forum is now a Read Only Forum. As we had two large areas making it difficult for many to find, we decided to combine the Mental Health & the Recovery sections of the forum into Mental Health & Recovery as a whole. Physical Health still remains as it's own area within the entire Recovery area.

    If you are having struggles, need support in a particular area that you aren't finding a specific recovery area forum, you may find the General Struggles forum a great place to post. Any any that is related to emotions, self-esteem, insomnia, anger, relationship dynamics due to mental health and recovery and other issues that don't fit better in another forum would be examples of topics that might go there.

    If you have spiritual issues related to a mental health and recovery issue, please use the Recovery Related Spiritual Advice forum. This forum is designed to be like Christian Advice, only for recovery type of issues. Recovery being like a family in many ways, allows us to support one another together. May you be blessed today and each day.

    Kristen.NewCreation and FreeinChrist

Has anybody ever been on Coumadin and or Eliquis?

Neostarwcc

We are saved purely by the work and grace of God.
Supporter
Dec 13, 2015
5,229
4,189
37
US
✟909,984.00
Country
United States
Faith
Calvinist
Marital Status
Married
I know I'm not allowed to ask for medical advice on these forums so I'll try to make it as simple and short as possible while not asking for medical advice. I'm on blood thinners for life and have been on Coumadin since last Janurary. I've gained over 100 pounds while on Coumadin and I've heard nothing but positive stuff about Eliquis. Especially in the, you can eat whatever you want while on Eliquis department. Is this true? I see my doctor on December 5th and my doctors nurses are trying to talk me into asking my doctor to switch me to Eliquis since i gained so much weight on Coumadin. But I dont feel right asking for the change. Why? I just got an inr meter covered about 4 months ago and I'm sure it wasn't a cheap machine and testing supplies im sure were expensive. Nor is Eliquis it's about $600 a month whereas Coumadin is $5. I don't feel right asking my insurance for an expensive testing machine and then 4 months later asking for a $600 medicine when warfarin has been working its just annoying that I can't eat any vegetables while on it and my INR has been all over the place. I don't mind having to pick myself every week to get tested. I mean, it's bad enough that it costs hundreds of thousands of dollars a year to keep me alive. I feel like it's not worth it and I feel bad for my insurance. I try to save them money wherever I can. But I'm afraid of being over 500 pounds if I remain on Coumadin at the same time. Its like... I can't win either way. Is anybody else on blood thinners and can relate?
 

keith99

sola dosis facit venenum
Jan 16, 2008
22,884
6,556
71
✟318,590.00
Faith
Atheist
Marital Status
Single
It is pretty much only green leafy vegitables that are an issue with Coumadin. And even those can be eaten as long as one is very consistent in the consumption levels.

On the other side there are a lot of medications that interact with Coumadin. If it is costing hundreds of thousands of dollars to keep you alive you could be changing meds a lot and Eliquis seems to have far fewer interactions. So it could be a smart medical decision to gp that route. That could well have something to do with teh nurses wanting the switch.
 
Upvote 0

Neostarwcc

We are saved purely by the work and grace of God.
Supporter
Dec 13, 2015
5,229
4,189
37
US
✟909,984.00
Country
United States
Faith
Calvinist
Marital Status
Married
It is pretty much only green leafy vegitables that are an issue with Coumadin. And even those can be eaten as long as one is very consistent in the consumption levels.

On the other side there are a lot of medications that interact with Coumadin. If it is costing hundreds of thousands of dollars to keep you alive you could be changing meds a lot and Eliquis seems to have far fewer interactions. So it could be a smart medical decision to gp that route. That could well have something to do with teh nurses wanting the switch.
Well I found out two things I really love to eat that I can't eat. Pickles and olives for example. I asked my doctor to allow me to eat a little fresh spinach because I love it so much but even a little bit my body can't handle.


Most of my medical costs are because I have schizoaffective disorder I'm on several very expensive medications for that. Over 3x the price of Eliquis. I have been keeping my antipsychotic meds the same since I nearly died trying Lithium last year. My Psychiatrist didn't monitor my lithium levels and j had to spend a few days In the hospital getting my levels under control. Also have sleep apnea and that can get expensive to treat. I'm on an APAP machine and oxygen for that.
 
Upvote 0

keith99

sola dosis facit venenum
Jan 16, 2008
22,884
6,556
71
✟318,590.00
Faith
Atheist
Marital Status
Single
Well I found out two things I really love to eat that I can't eat. Pickles and olives for example. I asked my doctor to allow me to eat a little fresh spinach because I love it so much but even a little bit my body can't handle.
The issue with pickles is that they are usually pickled cucumbers. Depending on what you like there may be alternatives. If you loike sweet pickles then pickled watermelon rind is an option. Heck it might be an option for dill or other sorts, but if so you would have to know someone who would do the pickling.

Different sites give different numbers for the amount of vitamin K in cucumbers, but almost all say it is in the skin. So one could peel cucumbers. I also wonder if there might be a way of pickling that destroys teh vitamin K, similar things happen with a lot of food processing.
 
Upvote 0

Neostarwcc

We are saved purely by the work and grace of God.
Supporter
Dec 13, 2015
5,229
4,189
37
US
✟909,984.00
Country
United States
Faith
Calvinist
Marital Status
Married
The issue with pickles is that they are usually pickled cucumbers. Depending on what you like there may be alternatives. If you loike sweet pickles then pickled watermelon rind is an option. Heck it might be an option for dill or other sorts, but if so you would have to know someone who would do the pickling.

Different sites give different numbers for the amount of vitamin K in cucumbers, but almost all say it is in the skin. So one could peel cucumbers. I also wonder if there might be a way of pickling that destroys teh vitamin K, similar things happen with a lot of food processing.


That's alright I'm supposed to be watching my sodium intake anyway. I'm supposed to be on a low sodium diet and I just know that when I go to see my doctor he's going to yell at me for not listening to his instructions because my blood test came back that my sodium levels were just under normal. He wants them significantly lower. But then again doctors tell me it would be nice to lose 250 pounds. It ain't going to happen lol. If I could get back down to 300 pounds that'd be great but I'm not counting on it.
 
Upvote 0

Michie

Well-Known Member
Supporter
Feb 5, 2002
165,508
55,200
Woods
✟4,584,705.00
Country
United States
Faith
Catholic
Marital Status
Married
Politics
US-Others
I know I'm not allowed to ask for medical advice on these forums so I'll try to make it as simple and short as possible while not asking for medical advice. I'm on blood thinners for life and have been on Coumadin since last Janurary. I've gained over 100 pounds while on Coumadin and I've heard nothing but positive stuff about Eliquis. Especially in the, you can eat whatever you want while on Eliquis department. Is this true? I see my doctor on December 5th and my doctors nurses are trying to talk me into asking my doctor to switch me to Eliquis since i gained so much weight on Coumadin. But I dont feel right asking for the change. Why? I just got an inr meter covered about 4 months ago and I'm sure it wasn't a cheap machine and testing supplies im sure were expensive. Nor is Eliquis it's about $600 a month whereas Coumadin is $5. I don't feel right asking my insurance for an expensive testing machine and then 4 months later asking for a $600 medicine when warfarin has been working its just annoying that I can't eat any vegetables while on it and my INR has been all over the place. I don't mind having to pick myself every week to get tested. I mean, it's bad enough that it costs hundreds of thousands of dollars a year to keep me alive. I feel like it's not worth it and I feel bad for my insurance. I try to save them money wherever I can. But I'm afraid of being over 500 pounds if I remain on Coumadin at the same time. Its like... I can't win either way. Is anybody else on blood thinners and can relate?
I do my mother in laws meds and she is on eliquis 2x a day. She has never had a problem with it. You must be sure to get off it a few days before having a procedure. No weight gain or anything like that. I do not know what type of insurance you have but your doctor can direct you as far as costs or giving a generic version if available. I know when my mil started taking it they tried for a generic version but they do not work as well as the original from what the doctor said.
 
Upvote 0

Trusting in Him

Well-Known Member
Oct 25, 2021
1,063
671
71
Devon
✟49,590.00
Country
United Kingdom
Faith
Non-Denom
Marital Status
Married
Have you prayed about this, what man tells you to do and God's wisdom are two different things, but bible tells me that God freely gives His wisdom to those that ask Him! BTW, I'm on a 75mg Asprin and a pretty strong anti-platlete drug for life to stop unwanted deposits growing over my stets and inside the arteries around my heart. I take about 30 tablets ever day, but after two fairly serious heart attacks and two strokes, I'm still here. Praise the Lord!
 
Upvote 0

Neostarwcc

We are saved purely by the work and grace of God.
Supporter
Dec 13, 2015
5,229
4,189
37
US
✟909,984.00
Country
United States
Faith
Calvinist
Marital Status
Married
I do my mother in laws meds and she is on eliquis 2x a day. She has never had a problem with it. You must be sure to get off it a few days before having a procedure. No weight gain or anything like that. I do not know what type of insurance you have but your doctor can direct you as far as costs or giving a generic version if available. I know when my mil started taking it they tried for a generic version but they do not work as well as the original from what the doctor said.

I have medicaid they usually cover anything I need as long as it's medically necessary. It's more of a I don't want to stick them with an expensive pill if it's not necessary but it seems that eliquis would be a welcome change. Does your mother in law still have to watch her diet on Eliquis?
 
Upvote 0
This site stays free and accessible to all because of donations from people like you.
Consider making a one-time or monthly donation. We appreciate your support!
- Dan Doughty and Team Christian Forums

Neostarwcc

We are saved purely by the work and grace of God.
Supporter
Dec 13, 2015
5,229
4,189
37
US
✟909,984.00
Country
United States
Faith
Calvinist
Marital Status
Married
Have you prayed about this, what man tells you to do and God's wisdom are two different things, but bible tells me that God freely gives His wisdom to those that ask Him! BTW, I'm on a 75mg Asprin and a pretty strong anti-platlete drug for life to stop unwanted deposits growing over my stets and inside the arteries around my heart. I take about 30 tablets ever day, but after two fairly serious heart attacks and two strokes, I'm still here. Praise the Lord!

I was extremely lucky that I didn't get a stroke last year. I had blood clots everywhere including a very big one in my heart that almost traveled to my brain. I had to get emergency surgery to remove the clot. Turns out God healed the clot and I didn't have to get open heart surgery afterall. Praise God! I had to be hospitalized for almost 3 weeks in New Hampshire though. A cardiologist said I was extremely lucky I didn't stroke out. A majority of the cases he's seen most people have suffered strokes.

I have prayed about it. I think that's why I'm reaching out for support and information. I know blood clots are very common. Especially in men.
 
Upvote 0

Michie

Well-Known Member
Supporter
Feb 5, 2002
165,508
55,200
Woods
✟4,584,705.00
Country
United States
Faith
Catholic
Marital Status
Married
Politics
US-Others
I have medicaid they usually cover anything I need as long as it's medically necessary. It's more of a I don't want to stick them with an expensive pill if it's not necessary but it seems that eliquis would be a welcome change. Does your mother in law still have to watch her diet on Eliquis?
No not really. Of course there are the normal things, cholesterol, sodium, not too many carbs and sugars should her numbers go in the wrong direction. Do not worry about the insurance. If your doctor thinks you need it, you need it. Insurance is perfectly capable of handling their own finances.
 
Upvote 0

Trusting in Him

Well-Known Member
Oct 25, 2021
1,063
671
71
Devon
✟49,590.00
Country
United Kingdom
Faith
Non-Denom
Marital Status
Married
It seems that quite a lot of us are currently surviving by the goodness and grace of God. Unfortunately a very small nuber of us can't alway tolerate the cheaper generic versions of some drugs, is not necessarily a big deal that a few of us need the more expensive non-generic version of some drug, because it those who don't have any problem using the cheaper generic drug that are saving the medical services the money, which pay for the very small number which cannot tolerate the cheaper generic version. Don't feel bad about needing the more expensive drug, if you need it, then you need it.
 
Upvote 0

Neostarwcc

We are saved purely by the work and grace of God.
Supporter
Dec 13, 2015
5,229
4,189
37
US
✟909,984.00
Country
United States
Faith
Calvinist
Marital Status
Married
It seems that quite a lot of us are currently surviving by the goodness and grace of God. Unfortunately a very small nuber of us can't alway tolerate the cheaper generic versions of some drugs, is not necessarily a big deal that a few of us need the more expensive non-generic version of some drug, because it those who don't have any problem using the cheaper generic drug that are saving the medical services the money, which pay for the very small number which cannot tolerate the cheaper generic version. Don't feel bad about needing the more expensive drug, if you need it, then you need it.

I don't know if i really need it though when coumadin is working and i just got my meter. But, my main concern is weight gain which I'm going to bring up to my doctor when I see him on the 5th. I mean gaining over 100 pounds in a year long period is pretty bad. I don't want to end up being 500+ pounds. I'm not exactly sure what I weigh because my home scale only goes up to 400 pounds. I'll know when I weigh myself at the doctor's I know I weigh at least 450 pounds. That's just way too much.

I'm on one brand name medication because I don't think a generic of it exists. That's Latuda it's a very expensive medication but luckily my medicaid covers it and my other anti psychotics.
 
Upvote 0

Neostarwcc

We are saved purely by the work and grace of God.
Supporter
Dec 13, 2015
5,229
4,189
37
US
✟909,984.00
Country
United States
Faith
Calvinist
Marital Status
Married
No not really. Of course there are the normal things, cholesterol, sodium, not too many carbs and sugars should her numbers go in the wrong direction. Do not worry about the insurance. If your doctor thinks you need it, you need it. Insurance is perfectly capable of handling their own finances.

You're right. I should be thinking about my health I'll see what my doctor says. Maybe he can put me on something cheaper than Eliquis.
 
  • Prayers
Reactions: Michie
Upvote 0
This site stays free and accessible to all because of donations from people like you.
Consider making a one-time or monthly donation. We appreciate your support!
- Dan Doughty and Team Christian Forums

Diamond7

YEC, OEC, GAP, TE - Dispensationalist.
Nov 23, 2022
4,416
622
72
Akron
✟67,492.00
Country
United States
Faith
Methodist
Marital Status
Married
I've heard nothing but positive stuff about Eliquis.
I was on Plavix and that was rough on my stomach. I did not want to take Eliquis but I got a painful blood clot in my leg so I really do not have a choice. A few times I have cut myself and the bleeding was a bit excessive, you have to put pressure on it to stop the bleeding. That is an inconvenience, but it is just not worth it to take a chance.
 
Upvote 0

Neostarwcc

We are saved purely by the work and grace of God.
Supporter
Dec 13, 2015
5,229
4,189
37
US
✟909,984.00
Country
United States
Faith
Calvinist
Marital Status
Married
I saw my doctor today. He said because of my weight it's a good idea to continue with Coumadin. He gave me a list of vegetables I can eat while on Coumadin and he prescribed me ozempic because I gained another 10 pounds since my last visit. I'm waiting right now for my insurance to cover the injections but he said he has several morbidly obese patients on ozempic and one of them lost almost 100 pounds in six months. He's going to follow up with me every month now. Hopefully i can lose at least 100 pounds. I'm approaching 500 pounds way too quickly for my liking.
 
Upvote 0

Aaron112

Well-Known Member
Dec 19, 2022
2,407
512
TULSA
✟50,522.00
Country
United States
Faith
Messianic
Marital Status
In Relationship
I know I'm not allowed to ask for medical advice on these forums so I'll try to make it as simple and short as possible while not asking for medical advice. I'm on blood thinners for life and have been on Coumadin since last Janurary. I've gained over 100 pounds while on Coumadin and I've heard nothing but positive stuff about Eliquis. Especially in the, you can eat whatever you want while on Eliquis department. Is this true?
No.
 
  • Agree
Reactions: Michie
Upvote 0