The Barbarian
Crabby Old White Guy
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What is wrong with you?!
The world. I just live here for now.
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What is wrong with you?!
So the kind is useless according to you.
To “bring forth” is also useless.
So why even read that verse?
Why even put the word kind when they are all the same things according to your theory.
Everything is related.
All it is is just a mix bag of non kinds.
So therefore when God said he created the world he meant only the Roman Empire. Oh and when we will judge the whole world it’ll only be the Roman Empire. Nice logicAs you saw, the Bible said the "whole world" meant the Roman empire. So there is that.
Again, if you'd just be satisfied with having it God's way, this wouldn't be a problem for you.
You didn’t present evidence that an animal has turned into another type of animal. Stop being untruthful please. A drawing on paper that this happened isn’t real life evidence in nature.That's what you keep stumbling over. Science requires no supernatural presuppositions or even a lack of them. So people of all faiths and even those of no faith at all, can do science.
When I presented the evidence, no one, even other creationists, expected you to acknowledge it. We all know you had to deny it.
As you see, even honest YE creationists admit there is very good evidence for macroevolutionary theory, even "gobs and gobs of it."
Nope God said it’ll bring forth AFTER ITS KIND. Stop lying.It's a useful word to describe things that aren't the same. It's neither a theological term nor a scientific one.
Sorry you think so. God specifically says nature brought forth life as He intended it to do. He uses nature for most things in this world.
I'd say that was a rather important truth.
But they aren't. That's the point.
You think that you're the same person as your grandmother?
"A mix bag of non-kinds" seems like an oxymoron, doesn't it?
Remember when I said that it was an important fact that there are no precise boundaries between taxa? There's a good reason for that. If creationism were true, there would be no such imprecision.
I know what tou said. You’re lying like atheist do. So clearly the do not bare false witness is not for you as the atheists think the same.It's a useful word to describe things that aren't the same. It's neither a theological term nor a scientific one.
Sorry you think so. God specifically says nature brought forth life as He intended it to do. He uses nature for most things in this world.
I'd say that was a rather important truth.
But they aren't. That's the point.
You think that you're the same person as your grandmother?
"A mix bag of non-kinds" seems like an oxymoron, doesn't it?
Remember when I said that it was an important fact that there are no precise boundaries between taxa? There's a good reason for that. If creationism were true, there would be no such imprecision.
I know what tou said. You’re lying like atheist do.
you teist the word bring forth AFTER ITS KIND, to your own atheistic lust to deny scriptures
You say God didn’t create Adam from the dust of the ground and Eve from Adam, you say they came from chimps/apes.
Good day.
So therefore when God said he created the world he meant only the Roman Empire.
Nope God said it’ll bring forth AFTER ITS KIND.
Stop lying.
No, it says the earth brought forth living things after their kind. Nothing about reproduction. "Reproduce" is man's attempt to change scripture to make it more acceptable to them.
Genesis 1:24 And God said, Let the earth bring forth the living creature after his kind, cattle, and creeping thing, and beast of the earth after his kind: and it was so.
As you see, it's not about reproduction. Let it be his way, not man's way.
it isn’t allegory here though, you claim it all is when there’s no suggestion that it is.
It is provided ad historical information hence why all the details of the days and including the Ten Commandments reaffirmed this.
so what does bring forth after its kind
I haven’t learned anything from you in this discussion except how to twist the word and not read it exactly as it says.
The text itself says it is. It's absurd to imagine literal mornings and evenings with no sun to have them. So we know it's an allegory.
I know you would like it to be so, but the text itself is more convincing.
It means that the "living thing" kind was produced by the earth. Creationists want to make "kind" into a plural and to add "reproduce" to the text. Because it would be more acceptable to them, thereby. But I still think God's word stands best as it is.
You're trying to find a way to justify altering the text, so that you don’t want to look foolish to the majority of creationists you know. But there is no way for you to do that.
You're already skilled at that. But you have learned a great deal about what evolution actually is, and how it works. And you now understand better how Christians see evolution.
The text itself says it is. It's absurd to imagine literal mornings and evenings with no sun to have them. So we know it's an allegory.
I know you would like it to be so, but the text itself is more convincing.
It means that the "living thing" kind was produced by the earth. Creationists want to make "kind" into a plural and to add "reproduce" to the text. Because it would be more acceptable to them, thereby. But I still think God's word stands best as it is.
You're trying to find a way to justify altering the text, so that you don’t want to look foolish to the majority of creationists you know. But there is no way for you to do that.
You're already skilled at that. But you have learned a great deal about what evolution actually is, and how it works. And you now understand better how Christians see evolution.
God is light and he already said in genesis 1 on the first day there was light and it was separated from the darkness you don’t need the sun with the light of God.
you’re the one altering the text you’re inventing your own sun analogy like 24 hours isn’t possible to exist without a sun.
Oh right God fooled everyone for thousands of years and it took atheists to figure out how everything was made correctly and the scriptures is just an allegory.
What utter nonsense.
Peter was right about end times scriptures scoffer.
I haven’t learned anything of what you said regarding evolution
Interesting you need to boast about this.
You haven’t provided any observable evidence
Keep lying “that won’t work” pure willful ignorance. The 4 commandments states that it was 6 days rested the seventh. Clearly shows it doesn’t require a sun. You are fully adding to the text of genesis. If a day requires a sun then God lied in the 4th commandment for calling it days. No, it’s you the liar.Sorry, that excuse won't work. "Morning" is not "when a big light is in the sky" It's when the sun rises in the east. And that's built into the Hebrew language.
That excuse won't work either. My point was that by definition mornings and evenings requires a sun. Pretending I said something else won't help you any more than pretending God said something else.
And that's another failed excuse. St. Augustine, about 1500 years ago, showed that Genesis 1 was not a literal history. And he was a devout Christian, the most respected Christian theologian of his time.
And you're pretending he never figured this out.
Afraid so. Remember when I suggested that you do some reading and learn about these things before telling us about them? Would have saved you some embarrassment.
I don't think you're necessarily a scoffer at scripture. You just aren't very comfortable with it, unless you add a few things to it.
Keep lying “that won’t work” pure willful ignorance.
If a day requires a sun then God lied in the 4th commandment for calling it days. No, it’s you the liar.
Nope God uses days for the commandment 6 days rested the seventh. You’re inventing a theology that evening and morning doesn’t mean a little day 24 hours. God added those specific details to be precise and look at the massacre people still do!I'm just pointing out why those excuses won't work. Not because I say so; because they don't correspond to reality. And you already know that I don't say anything here that I don't believe to be true. First, God doesn't like people to lie. Second, it's not a safe thing to do. Eventually, people figure it out. Now, when one is repeatedly contradicted, one sometimes wants to simply dismiss it as lying. It might feel good at the time, but eventually that gets figured out, too. Just be careful about it. God likes the truth and so do most people here.
You've assumed that God can only use "yom" (the actual word) for a regular 24 hour day. But He uses it for "in my time", "always", "forever", and many other things in scripture. You're just selling God short, by insisting that He can't use figurative language in His Bible. And that's demonstrably wrong. And calling people "liars" when they disagree with your interpretation, really doesn't do you any good at all.
If you learn nothing else from this, remember that getting angry and verbally abusive is a very self-defeating thing to do.
That's possible, but at least you've been shown the facts. And I notice you didn't repeat some of those errors after that.
I'm just trying to help you learn about it.
We realize you continue to deny the evidence. But it really doesn't matter. As you learned, even knowledgeable YE creationists have accepted the fact of evidence. AIG now admits the fact that new species and genera (and maybe sometimes familes) come from older ones. You saw how scientists who are YE creationists freely admit that there is "very good evidence for macroevoluitionary theory."
I don't think you're an atheist. I think you very much want to believe in God, but you've put your confidence in man's wisdom, instead of the word of God.
You haven’t shown any fact. Just boasting you did.
Lol you’re the one using man’s wisdom!
YOU DID NOT TEACH ME ANYTHING ON THE THEORY. ZERO.
Trying to show like you’re so good to “teach me” when the majority of anyone I speak to already know everything that you teach because it’s literally the basics of the theory.
It is NOT observable!
Not even sure why I continue to talk to you
YOU’RE the one that changes the direct meaning of the text.