Critical Race Theory

Ken-1122 said:

So you're saying racists do often wanna have sex with those they are racist against?

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<Looks at the number of slave holders who has sex with slaves>

That does seem to be the case. Got any information to show otherwise?

Ken-1122 said:

Do you think there are any local laws, or corporate policies today that are still in violation of that law?

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There probably are, although most will have been de-fanged. Laws don't get repealed that often. There may especially be court precedents still being used that had originally been highly racially prejudiced.

But don't overlook my point: The fix is in, even if all the past effects have not been erased. The effects of past racial housing and zoning laws and policies are going to take a long, long time to fix. Even when the laws are changed, it takes many decades to change physical structures and populations of entire neighborhoods and cities.

Ken-1122 said:

In the US the average black person is only 70% according to 23&me, so even though the baby might be majority white, they will still call it black. However these guys I know don't want to have kids by these girls, they just wanna have sex with them.

So you're saying racists do often wanna have sex with those they are racist against?

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When it's the case that "these guys I know don't want to have kids by these girls, they just wanna have sex with them," then they can be racists having sex with women they're racist against.

Lots of men are willing to have sex with women they don't like. That's why prostitution can exist.

rturner76 said:

You don't

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Then all you're telling here is that you're going to assume people are racist no matter what .

rturner76 said:

Except the ones who were actively cracking the whip

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Which would be a minority of whites.

rturner76 said:

What I mean is the past actions of a lot of people have had a ripple effect through the years.

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That's just called history.

You can focus on one aspect of it, and you can pretend it matters more than every other aspect, but that doesn't make it so.

Akita Suggagaki said:

Sounds like you might live in a white bubble. Do you get news from the real world?

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White bubble? Are you saying it's more dangerous in a black bubble? Is the world more real there?

rturner76 said:

Yes, I believe that had more to do with taxes though the concept of a person being counted as less than a human being I believe still had an effect on the way the black population was viewed.

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The fact on wages are the percentage between whites and blacks who are equal in job and education is pennies on the dollar. Much like the difference between whites and Asians.

So using a wage comparison is a false equivalence unless you are comparing apples to apples. Can't prove systemic racism there.

Man you just can't do it can you. You complain about boardrooms and I prove you wrong. You complain about literacy and I prove you wrong. You complain about wages and are proved wrong again. What will take?

Ana the Ist said:

Then all you're telling here is that you're going to assume people are racist no matter what .

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Sounds a bit racist to me.

rjs330 said:

Sounds a bit racist to me.

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Yeah bur it's only a problem when people take it seriously.

If someone were to consider a claim like "I experience racism every day" uncritically...they might not consider that the person making this statement is simply operating under the assumption of guilt.

Get enough people to listen to your claims uncritically....and you've got people trying to solve problems that don't actually exist.

rjs330 said:

The fact on wages are the percentage between whites and blacks who are equal in job and education is pennies on the dollar. Much like the difference between whites and Asians.

So using a wage comparison is a false equivalence unless you are comparing apples to apples. Can't prove systemic racism there.

Man you just can't do it can you. You complain about boardrooms and I prove you wrong. You complain about literacy and I prove you wrong. You complain about wages and are proved wrong again. What will take?

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I'll accept it...but why stop there? Who has a larger share of the tax burden? Who has a larger share of welfare?

We can look all those things up....seems a bit silly to stop at income.

Belk said:

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That does seem to be the case. Got any information to show otherwise?

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You preachin’ to the choir bruh! The person I was responding to said:

I would assume that someone who mates with a member of another ethnicity is not racist.

I disagreed with that; it sounds like you do as well. Perhaps you might wanna ask him that question.

Ken-1122 said:

You preachin’ to the choir bruh! The person I was responding to said:

I would assume that someone who mates with a member of another ethnicity is not racist.

I disagreed with that; it sounds like you do as well. Perhaps you might wanna ask him that question.

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Fair enough. I will do so. You are correct that I got your positions reversed.


ETA it appears @rturner76 is also in agreement. They stated that men will chase anything no matter their ideology.

Ken-1122 said:

So you're saying racists do often wanna have sex with those they are racist against?

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yes

Ana the Ist said:

Then all you're telling here is that you're going to assume people are racist no matter what .

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I assume they could be, not that they definitely are.

rjs330 said:

So using a wage comparison is a false equivalence

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Figures

rturner76 said:

yes

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Lol I think men will have sex with anything with two legs. At least some will.

rturner76 said:

I assume they could be, not that they definitely are.

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Well anyone could be just about anything.

I could assume that everyone I come across could be a rapist....it's certainly possible.

The problem is when the mere possibility becomes an assertion of certainty.

You stated that today's racists are just as racist as the racists of old....they simply hide it better.

That's not you exploring a possibility...you're expressing a certainty.

rjs330 said:

Lol I think men will have sex with anything with two legs. At least some will.

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True indeed.

Ana the Ist said:

Well anyone could be just about anything.

I could assume that everyone I come across could be a rapist....it's certainly possible.

The problem is when the mere possibility becomes an assertion of certainty.

You stated that today's racists are just as racist as the racists of old....they simply hide it better.

That's not you exploring a possibility...you're expressing a certainty.

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As I said, I don't assume people ARE racist but that they COULD BE.

I do firmly believe that in time these racist attitudes will continue to shift with each new generation. It seems especially since the new millennium attitudes toward race are rapidly shifting toward tolerance and even appreciation for other ethnicities. It's just that there still is a large group of people who lived through segregation and have old-fashioned values. Those people have lived long lives and many still influence politics and business.