5 red heifers arrive in Israel

HARK! said:

That only scratches the surface of what I begin to see as I study his word by the otiot.

I pray that he gives me eternity for continued study.

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Wouldn't you rather.. talk to the Word of God face to face and receive teaching directly, rather than indirectly through Inspiriation?

It is the Word of God, but it's also written down by human authors, and pieces of them come with the scripture. A lot of times, the human authors, rather than dictated word for word what to write, saw a vision, and wrote down what they saw. The Vision was from God, but sometimes required Angels just to interpret them. That comes into play a lot in the prophetic books in particular.

Sometimes there's just "Thus sayeth the Lord" but sometimes the Lord makes the prophet do some sort of action to illustrate something, like making Hosea marry a prostitute to depict the relationship between God and Israel, or Jeremiah and his funky belt to show that Judah had become marred and fit for nothing. The Lord always needs to explain what the meaning of these exercises is, or He'll show a vision, and it utterly confuses the prophet, so an angel explains.

Sure, you could study the scriptures forever.
But you'll also have the face to face access to Jesus, which isn't that even better?

Jamdoc said:

Wouldn't you rather.. talk to the Word of God face to face and receive teaching directly, rather than indirectly through Inspiriation?

It is the Word of God, but it's also written down by human authors, and pieces of them come with the scripture. A lot of times, the human authors, rather than dictated word for word what to write, saw a vision, and wrote down what they saw. The Vision was from God, but sometimes required Angels just to interpret them. That comes into play a lot in the prophetic books in particular.

Sometimes there's just "Thus sayeth the Lord" but sometimes the Lord makes the prophet do some sort of action to illustrate something, like making Hosea marry a prostitute to depict the relationship between God and Israel, or Jeremiah and his funky belt to show that Judah had become marred and fit for nothing. The Lord always needs to explain what the meaning of these exercises is, or He'll show a vision, and it utterly confuses the prophet, so an angel explains.

Sure, you could study the scriptures forever.
But you'll also have the face to face access to Jesus, which isn't that even better?

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Rev 3:20 is the invite. Put your finger on it and make a personal prayer for an audience with the King of the Universe. Can you imagine facing Him at the second coming without any encounters with Him before hand?

visionary said:

Rev 3:20 is the invite. Put your finger on it and make a personal prayer for an audience with the King of the Universe. Can you imagine facing Him at the second coming without any encounters with Him before hand?

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I'm aware of the importance of reading scripture prior to the next age. It's really our only way to know Him currently. Just saying in the next age.. we'll have something so much better than a book, and people seem to want to just keep reading the book rather than talk face to face.

Jamdoc said:

I'm aware of the importance of reading scripture prior to the next age. It's really our only way to know Him currently. Just saying in the next age.. we'll have something so much better than a book, and people seem to want to just keep reading the book rather than talk face to face.

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An experienced face-to-face like Moses had, or Isaiah would be the best anyone could ask for. It will help make sense of a lot of things that can only truly be understood, like the prophecies. It also helps with understanding the whole ramification of "Holy" which is not just a word but a Presence that causes sin to melt like wax in His Presence.

visionary said:

An experienced face-to-face like Moses had, or Isaiah would be the best anyone could ask for. It will help make sense of a lot of things that can only truly be understood, like the prophecies. It also helps with understanding the whole ramification of "Holy" which is not just a word but a Presence that causes sin to melt like wax in His Presence.

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I just want a more intimate relationship than a book can provide. So while I love scripture, I don't feel satisfied with it I know.. it's like heresy to say the bible is insufficient in any way but the bible is seeing through a glass darkly, and we all know there's something greater in the person Himself.

Jamdoc said:

I just want a more intimate relationship than a book can provide. So while I love scripture, I don't feel satisfied with it I know.. it's like heresy to say the bible is insufficient in any way but the bible is seeing through a glass darkly, and we all know there's something greater in the person Himself.

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Don't forget the Spirit, brother...

David's Harp said:

Don't forget the Spirit, brother...

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I know it seems weird to say that a presence inside you is "not intimate enough" but I still feel that way.

because mostly what that presence does.. is direct you through the book.

Jamdoc said:

I know it seems weird to say that a presence inside you is "not intimate enough" but I still feel that way.

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I do know what you mean. Especially when said presence isn't supposed to induce emotion - according to some sources. Not quite sure how I feel about that though.

But with your command of the Scripture you must know the Spirit has other ministries?

Matt5 said:

As far as I can tell, the new temple is associated with the obliteration of America.

When a powerful friend of Israel brings a gift for the new temple on the Temple Mount, then it gets obliterated on that very day. That comes from Isaiah 18:7.

Who is that powerful friend of Israel? America?

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Out of curiosity, do you apply all of Isaiah 18 to the end times, or just that verse? And how do you determine that that verse is about America?

David's Harp said:

I do know what you mean. Especially when said presence isn't supposed to induce emotion - according to some sources. Not quite sure how I feel about that though.

But with your command of the Scripture you must know the Spirit has other ministries?

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Command? I don't know about command.
I'm a student. I'm taught.

Jamdoc said:

Command? I don't know about command.
I'm a student. I'm taught.

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Yes, perhaps 'command' could be getting above our station. Maybe swap that word out for grasp.

From what I understand the Temple Institute in Jerusalem has been preparing for years for the Temple to be rebuilt. Far as I remember they've gotten legitimate priests, garments, furniture etc. All they are awaiting is the ability to build on the Temple mount after a Red heifer is found and slaughtered outside the camp to cleanse them for this duty.

The heifers they have sent there now are about 1 year old and somewhere I saw it stated they had to be 2 years old for the ceremony. At that time they would be thoroughly examined to be pure and spotless.

When the time is right, the LORD will provide the spotless heifer, just as he provided the lamb in Abraham and Isaac's time.

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Lulav said:

From what I understand the Temple Institute in Jerusalem has been preparing for years for the Temple to be rebuilt. Far as I remember they've gotten legitimate priests, garments, furniture etc. All they are awaiting it the ability to build on the Temple mount after a Red heifer is found and slaughtered outside the camp to cleanse them for this duty.

The heifers they have sent there now are about 1 year old and somewhere I saw it stated they had to be 2 years old. At that time they would be thoroughly examined to be pure and spotless.

When the time is right, the LORD will provide the spotless heifer, just as he provided the lamb in Abraham and Isaacs time.

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Well technically He already did provide a spotless heifer, or rather what the Heifer pointed to: Messiah.

Jamdoc said:

I just want a more intimate relationship than a book can provide. So while I love scripture, I don't feel satisfied with it I know.. it's like heresy to say the bible is insufficient in any way but the bible is seeing through a glass darkly, and we all know there's something greater in the person Himself.

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Heresy titles were abused throughout history, and I don't think the Lord agreed with their attitude or knowledge on the subject. So I am of the same opinion, a more intimate relationship is the ultimate goal scripture is trying to convey.

Jamdoc said:

Well technically He already did provide a spotless heifer, or rather what the Heifer pointed to: Messiah.

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Ever been curious ... why a female cow should represent a Male Messiah?

visionary said:

Ever been curious ... why a female cow should represent a Male Messiah?

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Yeah.. I have no idea, only thing I can think of is because Baal was represented by a bull and they didn't want to associate with that even in appearance.
There are a lot of parts of the law that seem to be just about creating a difference between the Hebrew, and the Pagans around them.
Oh the pagans shave their heads? Okay, Israel will NOT shave their heads.. etc.

visionary said:

Ever been curious ... why a female cow should represent a Male Messiah?

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I can't figure out why but Jer 31:22 comes to mind.

public hermit said:

I have a sincere question: Why would Christians be motivated to help reestablish the sacrificial system? Presumably, the sacrifice of Christ was more than sufficient and ended the need for such a system. From the outside, it looks counter-intuitive to try and reestablish that system, but I'm assuming there must be some valid reason I'm missing.

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I did write on a FB post that "Few will understand the magnitude of this nor see the amazement of how this came about", however your presumption is correct but the motivation is not to reestablish the sacrificial system but gain the 10 and final Red Heifer to help set the stage of the return of Jesus. In short as posted: There have been only 9 certified Red Heifers and the 10th will be the last one before the return of Christ. It is a very strict process where even every hair is inspected and no more than 2 hairs can be a color other than red. The Christian Rancher was raising Red Heifers by the inspiration of Numbers 19 in God's word. Without a Certified Red Heifer it would be useless for Israel to build the 3rd temple because, it could not be used. By US law the Red Heifers had to be tagged in the ear when born. This made it impossible to be verified and approved for consideration of a Certified Red Heifer because, the ear punch was seen as a blemish. During the start of COVID as the 5 Red Heifers mentioned were born and reported, the inspector never showed up to punch their ear and place the tag. If that had happened they would have never been flown to Israel and they would still be looking for at least one Certified Red Heifer. (also Rev 11:1)