What is the purpose of the Sabbath?

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Eph2:
11 Therefore, remember that formerly you who are Gentiles by birth and called “uncircumcised” by those who call themselves “the circumcision” (which is done in the body by human hands)— 12 remember that at that time you were separate from Christ, excluded from citizenship in Israel and foreigners to the covenants of the promise, without hope and without God in the world. 13 But now in Christ Jesus you who once were far away have been brought near by the blood of Christ.

14 For he himself is our peace, who has made the two groups one and has destroyed the barrier, the dividing wall of hostility, 15 by setting aside in his flesh the law with its commands and regulations.

According to Paul Jesus fulfilled the Law with its commands, so mankind is not bound to Sabbath keeping with all of its regulations that no one could keep. What was meant to be a blessing became a curse to Israel. See 2Cor3:6-11. No one is to judge us for not observing days or for what we eat. Those things WERE shadows now Jesus Christ is our reality. Col 2:16-17.

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It is easy to break sabbath but sabbath-keeping is pertinent as it is ‘doing God’s will’. Not mandatory but pertinent in understanding God.
Not mandatory??? It WAS so mandatory that God had a man put to death for picking up sticks. We are not privy as to the man's motive; all we know is that God made an issue out of the man's action and it had to have been a profound lesson for all of the Israelites. Is58:13-14 “If you keep your feet from breaking the Sabbath and from doing as you please on my holy day,
if you call the Sabbath a delight and the Lord’s holy day honorable, and if you honor it by not going your own way and not doing as you please or speaking idle words,
14 then you will find your joy in the Lord, and I will cause you to ride in triumph on the heights of the land and to feast on the inheritance of your father Jacob.”
For the mouth of the Lord has spoken.
 
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Not mandatory??? It WAS so mandatory that God had a man put to death for picking up sticks. We are not privy as to the man's motive; all we know is that God made an issue out of the man's action and it had to have been a profound lesson for all of the Israelites. Is58:13-14 “If you keep your feet from breaking the Sabbath and from doing as you please on my holy day,
if you call the Sabbath a delight and the Lord’s holy day honorable, and if you honor it by not going your own way and not doing as you please or speaking idle words,
14 then you will find your joy in the Lord, and I will cause you to ride in triumph on the heights of the land and to feast on the inheritance of your father Jacob.”
For the mouth of the Lord has spoken.

Sabbath is not mandatory or pre-requisite for Gentile salvation. i.e. it is by faith per Abraham not by works/rituals or signs. The latter is Judaizing as Gentiles are not Jews. The audience is Israel-specific, not Gentile. "Speak to the Children of Israel" (Lev 18:2 etc).

“Wherefore the children of Israel shall keep the sabbath, to observe the sabbath throughout their generations, for a perpetual covenant.” (Ex 31:16)

Violations within Israel during the Exodus was blatant lawlessness in their context/exclusivity. They were judged by God, Moses, Aaron, Joshua, and the nation as a whole, and it was just. They had more than enough witnesses, surpassing a jury of 12. The nation had every evidence and presence of God, they had no excuse.

Yet during that very same timeline the penalty of the law was in-applicable to my ancestors who most certainly would have worked everyday of the week like many cultures. Yet they were not judged/executed. Why? Because the law was delivered at Sinai to Israel, not China or elsewhere. The Gentiles/pagans/heathens sin out of ignorance, without the law, lacking knowledge of God, everything. They 'sin in innocence' per se. The same is happening in the vast majority if not all Gentile churches.

Torah and the law will always be eternal, however, Judaistic elements unique to the Children of Israel are inapplicable to Gentiles as we arrived after the Holy Spirit in Acts. We are not the people of the Exodus, therefore Gentiles are not bound "under the letter of the law" (Rom 7:6, 2 Cor 3:6) in the same way Israel has no excuse. Our excuse is valid, by God's design.

"Written not with ink, but with the Spirit of the living God; not in tables of stone, but in fleshy tables of the heart. And such trust have we through Christ to God-ward: Not that we are sufficient of ourselves to think any thing as of ourselves; but our sufficiency is of God; Who also hath made us able ministers of the new testament; not of the letter, but of the spirit: for the letter killeth, but the spirit giveth life." (2 Cor 3:3-6)

Sabbath is optional as it is by choice, to be a "delight" less a mandatory chore, per Isaiah:

"If thou turn away thy foot from the sabbath, from doing thy pleasure on my holy day, and call the sabbath a delight, the holy of the Lord, honourable, and shalt honour him, not doing thine own ways, nor finding thine own pleasure, nor speaking thine own words." (Isa. 58:13)

The Lord said, "no man cometh unto the Father, but by me." (Jn 14:6) Salvation then cannot be "by sabbath". Thus non-mandatory. That is not to say one should violate sabbath deliberately, but as faith in Christ is from the heart, a total belief, and not nominal, so too should sabbath be practiced, by faith which is ultimately a personal decision. A person can be 'present at sabbath' yet his heart and deeds are completely at odds with God in every respect. Hence it is "the heart" that God wants, less token sabbath ritualism.

I discuss sabbath here as with believers, and in Gentile terms as an 'unveiled' concept. Whereas for Israel it was/is legalistic, rigid, and inflexible per your post's emphasis. Like a cane to a naughty child, they cannot possibly understand any other way. "Under tutors and governors until the time appointed of the father." (Gal 4:2)

Scripture says, "But their minds were blinded: for until this day remaineth the same vail untaken away in the reading of the old testament; which vail is done away in Christ. But even unto this day, when Moses is read, the vail is upon their heart. Nevertheless when it shall turn to the Lord, the vail shall be taken away." (1 Cor 3:14-16)-- Again, salvation is not by sabbath or legal observance, as it must be from the heart, by faith, by conviction of the Holy Spirit.

Additionally, sabbath is "not mandatory" due to superstition like mystical sabbath-keeping or Kabbalah. Belief in 'lucky days' etc that undermines the purpose of sabbath.

Quote: "Over a period of several centuries, the classical Kabbalists developed a rich body of myth and ritual which articulated a new vision of the Sabbath. Several outstanding examples of this are the re-imaging of the Sabbath as a mystical marriage ceremony, a day on which the divine lovers re-unite; the Sabbath as a cosmic Axis, around which Time is organized and through whose channels the week is ennobled and blessed; and the Sabbath as a festival of spiritual restoration, whereby the Jew is graced with an additional pneuma, the Sabbath-soul, enabling him to participate more fully in the mysteries of..." (Elliot Ginsburg, The Sabbath in the Classical Kabbalah on JSTOR)

Augustine notes this also: "For the Jews also observe as slaves the days, the months, the years and the seasons when they give themselves to the carnal observance of the Sabbath, of the New Moon, of the month of the new fruits and also of each seventh year, which they call "Sabbath of Saturdays ». Realities all that, as a shadow of what was to come, when Christ arrived, they remained superstitions when they fulfilled them, as if they contributed salvation, those who do not know what to refer to. ... The reader then chooses which of the opinions he accepts, provided he understands that the superstitious observance of the times means such a great danger to the soul." (Augustine on Galatians 4)

'Grace' is dependent on the law. It is not without the law or above the law. "Till heaven and earth pass, one jot or one tittle shall in no wise pass from the law, till all be fulfilled." (Mt 5:18) -- The antinomian or moral argument that is often made against the law come by believers who had been perhaps 'guilt tripped' into converting to Christ, under threat of hellfire etc. Their faith is based on penalty and exemption from penalty, hence, anxiety surrounding "judgement". That is rootless faith and ofc misunderstands the function/purpose of sabbath.

Matthew Henry draws that distinction:

"That was indeed a dispensation of grace, and yet it was comparatively a dispensation of darkness; for as the heir, in his minority, is under tutors and governors till the time appointed of his father, by whom he is educated and instructed in those things which at present he knows little of the meaning of, though afterwards they are likely to be of great use to him; so it was with the Old-Testament church-the Mosaic economy, which they were under, was what they could not fully understand the meaning of; for, as the apostle says (2 Co. 3:13), They could not stedfastly look to the end of that which is abolished. But to the church, when grown up to maturity, in gospel days, it becomes of great use. And as that was a dispensation of darkness, so of bondage too; for they were in bondage under the elements of the world, being tied to a great number of burdensome rites and observances, by which, as by a kind of first rudiments, they were taught and instructed, and whereby they were kept in a state of subjection, like a child under tutors and governors." (Matthew Henry on Galatians 4)

The law is not voided "by Christ" or "realised in Christ". That would be oxymoronic, counter-intuitive. -- As the law is God's eternal standard it can never change, it doesn't change. The only change that happens is by his dispensation, which is grace or his will that unfolds throughout the ages.

"Therefore we conclude that a man is justified by faith without the deeds of the law. Do we then make void the law through faith? God forbid: yea, we establish the law." (Rom 3:31)

I am pro-sabbath. I encourage it but would never enforce it. It is both preliminary and high theology. It is non-essential for salvation so it can be sidelined but as it is of God it cannot be deleted.

"One man esteemeth one day above another: another esteemeth every day alike. Let every man be fully persuaded in his own mind. He that regardeth the day, regardeth it unto the Lord; and he that regardeth not the day, to the Lord he doth not regard it. He that eateth, eateth to the Lord, for he giveth God thanks; and he that eateth not, to the Lord he eateth not, and giveth God thanks." (Rom 14:5-6)

Blessings to all
 
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most of these sabbath threads soon turn into the same back and forth from the same people and with the same canned arguments (myself included and if it's you too you know who you are). But for the moment let's table the arguments of the requirement of the Sabbath and talk about the purpose of the Sabbath which I feel is a more noble conversation.

Any conversation about one of the Commandments of God - where scripture is accepted as something that matters - is a noble one as long as rejection of scripture is not the purpose of that conversation.

God commanded Adam and Eve not to eat of the forbidden tree.
God gave mankind the Sabbath in Gen 2:1-3, Ex 20:11 on the 7th day of creation week.

To be kept by all mankind for all eternity after the cross - in the New Earth Is 66:23 "From Sabbath to Sabbath shall ALL MANKIND come before Me to worship"

Jesus said the Sabbath commandment is a blessing FOR mankind in Mark 2:27

In Gen 3 Satan said "hold on - lets not be too hasty to obey God's command about the forbidden tree! Let's stop and think about it for a second"..

I agree with thinking about it - but I don't agree with trying to find a way out of it.
 
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Sabbath is not mandatory or pre-requisite for Gentile salvation

Neither is the command to not take God's name in vain. God does not require perfect obedience before salvation is given.

still - the Word of God says "what matters is KEEPING the Commandments of God " 1 Cor 7:19
"the saints KEEP the Commandments of God AND their faith in Jesus" Rev 14:12
"this IS the LOVE of God that we KEEP His Commandments" 1 John 5:3-4
 
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I agree with thinking about it - but I don't agree with trying to find a way out of it.

Exactly. The only alternative to law is not 'grace' but lawlessness, antinomianism, dystopia, and a world of sin. This is the hypocrisy of preaching "Christ" and simultaneously undermining what Christ embodies. Pointing to "Christ" yet deleting what God wrote. It's blasphemy.

Rushdoony explains, “The purpose of grace is not to set aside the law but to fulfil the law and to enable man to keep the law (Institutes, 4). Once humans begin to follow God’s law, culture will flourish, ...The increasing breakdown of law and order must first of all be attributed to the churches and their persistent antinomianism. If the churches are lax with respect to the law, will not the people follow suit? And civil law cannot be separated from Biblical law, for the Biblical doctrine of law includes all law, civil, ecclesiastical, societal, familial, and all other forms of law. The social order which despises God’s law places itself on death row: it is marked judgment.” (4). So the law transforms Christians and society. While that law certainly means the Law of Moses, it also includes the whole Bible (Institutes, 6)."

The confusion is here: Christ did not delete 'the law', but rather his blood fulfilled the 'penalty' or 'curse' of the law. The law stands. 'Thou shalt not kill' is as true as 'Remember the sabbath the day'. But the OT penalty is not by 'stoning' and judgement by the mob, but by the Judgement seat of Christ at the Great Judgement.
 
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Neither is the command to not take God's name in vain. God does not require perfect obedience before salvation is given.

still - the Word of God says "what matters is KEEPING the Commandments of God " 1 Cor 7:19
"the saints KEEP the Commandments of God AND their faith in Jesus" Rev 14:12
"this IS the LOVE of God that we KEEP His Commandments" 1 John 5:3-4

Right. I've said this before that people sin for any number of reasons, involuntarily, culturally, obligated by limited choice, mutually complicit with others, mistake, the list is endless. But once a person knows God, sees Christ, the hideousness of sin crystallises and convicts a person from within. Irrespective of externalism. Irrespective of knowledge. It is revealed by God.

Many on this forum have a narrow Western worldview that severely underestimates the potency of Scripture and God. e.g. sense of entitlement to salvation, thus an entitlement or right to sin. License. This is so wrong.

Also people are often terrified by hellfire and this 'fear of sin' and 'fear of the law' governs their life. Discussing then 'sabbath' or 'the law' is somehow triggering.

But Scripture says "there is no fear in love" (1 Jn 4:18). Likewise, there is no fear in the law. But rather, the law liberates. It's by knowledge of law that one has knowledge of God's mind and the expectation he has for his people. It's by the law we know how to 'self-diagnose' our sinful behaviour and correct it. But antinomians are flying blind. And churches are contaminated by sinners 'saved by Christ' and oblivious to the effect they have on others and their own soul, their penal record. It's unrighteousness. Weak faith.

Judgement is not to be feared because IF a person is righteous there is justice. The ones who fear judgement are the UN-righteous.

"For the Lord is our judge, the Lord is our lawgiver, the Lord is our king; he will save us." (Isa 33:2)

"Say to them that are of a fearful heart, Be strong, fear not: behold, your God will come with vengeance, even God with a recompence; he will come and save you." (Isa 35:4)

"For God hath not given us the spirit of fear; but of power, and of love, and of a sound mind." (2 Tim 1:7)
 
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Sabbath is a divine measurement system, not merely a 'moral' commandment or 'ceremonial' commandment. Time and measurement of time is tantamount to salvation/life/peace/blessing etc. It is throughout Scripture from the beginning. To disregard or ignore sabbath and shmita is blindness. Regardless of dispensation or covenant, time remains constant, as does the unfolding of God's will. Messianic posts that suggest 'Christ as the fulfilment' or 'Christ as the reality' of sabbath is true however those statements alone are lacking. They beg the question of the OP, and leaves a person to wonder, What is then 'the purpose of the sabbath'?
The purpose of the Sabbath is the same as the purpose of the whole OT dispensation--to foreshadow Christ in whom is God's full-time salvation rest for us, from our own works to save and in Christ's work which saves (Hebrews 3:7-4:11),
as the purpose of the law was to reveal sin (Romans 3:20), not to make righteous in justification.
Theology must be understood through the lens of Christ AND Israel. Gentiles being subject to Jerusalem/Israel in the same way that the first council of Jerusalem was an Apostolic Council (50 AD). Likewise the Early Church was never meant to be separate or autonomous, it originally functioned as one within Judaism (Messianic). Everyone gathered, read/heard Torah/Scripture, sang Psalms and worshipped altogether. Gentiles are not supreme or dignified, we have no right or authority to pick and choose commandments. We are privileged members not the primary or ancestral group of the saved/elect. Citizenship came to us ‘by grace’.
Sabbath ignorance and blindness is particularly problematic, worsened by the conceit of the Western world view, and certain historical developments.
Gentiles are “ingrafts” or foreign imports into the Hebrew world/kingdom, into the promise of Abraham that came “by faith”. We are ‘spiritual people’ less by circumcision or any physical ritualism, and this spiritualism or reliance on the Holy Spirit does not ‘replace’ or discount the origin and root. The root being Christ, a Jew. The root promise made to Abraham, by his faith.
In the parallel of Romans 11:17, the first fruits correspond to the root, and the whole batch (of the Jewish people) corresponds to the branches.
The first fruits of the whole batch of Jewish people would be the patriarchs, rather than Jesus.
Jesus is the first fruits of the resurrection, but not of the Jewish people, coming as he does at the end of their nation.
The ‘new covenant’ does not preclude the old. i.e. ‘Christ’ does not look backward to reverse/abolish the covenants to Adam, Noah, or Abraham.
The Old Covenant was temporarily added to the Abrahamic Covenant (Galatians 3:19; Romans 5:20) to reveal sin (Romans 3:20),
not to make righteous, for righteousness of eternal life (justification) has always been by faith (Galatians 3:11; Genesis 15:6; Habakkuk 2:4, Romans 9:30; Hebrews 10:38), not law-keeping (Romans 3:20).

The New Covenant of Christ makes obsolete the Old (Mosaic) Covenant (Hebrews 8:13) temporarily added to the Abrahamic Covenant.
 
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Jesus said He came to fulfill the Law. The question is, did He fail to accomplish this? If He didn't fulfill it, bring it to an end, then He is not who He said He is. Many gentiles and Jews believe He didn't and that both are still under every jot and tittle of the Law. How gentiles ever became under the laws of the old covenant is a mystery no one seems to be able to solve, somehow, they believe they are subject to it in part or in full. If I am wrong then not one jot or one tittle of the Law has been voided.

Some go so far as making the observance of Sabbath an eternal life requirement. I would like to know when that rule took place. Gal 3:19 tells us that the Law was in force until Jesus. Eph 2 15 says that Jesus ended the Law. How could the Law of the weekly Sabbath be eternal when it was part of the laws of the old covenant which ended with the ratification of the eternal new covenant? Can we just ignore those questions and go on believing what someone else has convinced us to believe? I certainly cannot. Scripture answers those questions if one will open their mind and allow the Holy Writ to guide.
 
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The purpose of the Sabbath is the same as the purpose of the whole OT dispensation--to foreshadow Christ

That is not a logical conclusion given the fact that the Sabbath in Gen 2:1-3 and Ex 20:11 is given to mankind before there is any sin .. and is a "memorial" not a "shadow" when it comes to the Sabbath commandment.

In addition we see that Sabbath continued for all eternity after the cross in the New Earth for "all mankind" rather than "ended as a shadow" in Is 66:23 where we see that for all eternity after the cross in the New Earth "from Sabbath to Sabbath shall ALL mankind come before Me to worship".


1. Gathering together to worship God does not "end at the cross"
2. Weekly gathering to worship God does not "end at the cross"
3. Sabbath is a memorial as we see in both Ex 20:11 and Gen 2:1-3 not a shadow.
4. The fact that Sabbath is to be kept by all mankind for all eternity after the cross - in the New Earth means it did not "end at the cross".

The interesting thing about this is that - Bible scholars in almost all major Christian denominations world wide ... on BOTH sides of the Sabbath topic - admit the details just listed.
 
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Jesus said He came to fulfill the Law. The question is, did He fail to accomplish this? .

Yes He did accomplish it. Yet it is "Still a SIN - to take God's name in vain" Ex 20:7 as we all know.
 
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The purpose of the Sabbath is the same as the purpose of the whole OT dispensation--to foreshadow Christ in whom is God's full-time salvation rest for us, from our own works to save and in Christ's work which saves (Hebrews 3:7-4:11),
as the purpose of the law was to reveal sin (Romans 3:20), not to make righteous in justification.

"Foreshadow" and "shadow" is commonly assumed to be negative when it is not.

Nor is there superiority in 'new' covenants or dispensations. That would be egotistic or narcissistic. The only superiority or completeness is in Christ actually, physically, completely. Until then, everything is a sketch of the new kingdom, including sabbath.

Two branches, one root. One faith, one Baptism, one salvation, one Messiah. The many covenants and dispensations are equivalent. The 'new wine' is still wine, it doesn't make the 'old wine' worse or the new better or superior. There is no supersession, no replacement, no contradiction, in 'fore' or 'aft' covenants or dispensations. The old is not 'overshadowed'. The only change occurred in the 'vessel' (structure) and the 'contents' (people) within. This is the 'mystery' of God's work surrounding WHY he would have chosen Jacob a fraudster, Ruth a Moabite, Esther a Persian, Rahab a harlot, and all the Gentile sinners who are unclean and lawless people. This only God can answer. Yet all of them enter into the same 'rest' or 'sabbath'.

The word "shadow" in Hebrew 10:1 is "skia" (σκιά) meaning a "sketch" or "outline" that "represents the form of that object". It is not a negative or diminutive term.

Thayer's said:
a. properly, shadow, i. e. shade caused by the interception of the light: Mark 4:32 (cf. Ezekiel 17:23); Acts 5:15; σκιά θανάτου, shadow of death (like umbra mortis, Ovid. metam. 5, 191, and umbra Erebi, Vergil Aen. 4, 26; 6, 404), 'the densest darkness' (because from of old Hades had been regarded as enveloped in thick darkness), tropically, the thick darkness of error (i. e. spiritual death; see θάνατος, 1): Matthew 4:16; Luke 1:79 (from Isaiah 9:1, where צַלְמָוֶת).
b. a shadow, i. e. an image cast by an object and representing the form of that object: opposed to σῶμα, the thing itself, Colossians 2:17; hence, equivalent to a sketch, outline, adumbration, Hebrews 8:5; opposed to εἰκών, the 'express' likeness, the very image, Hebrews 10:1 (as in Cicero, de off. 3, 17, 69nos veri juris solidam et expresssam effigiem nullam tenemus, umbra et imaginibus utimur).

Similarly in 1 Cor 13:12, the expression "to see through a glass darkly" is not negative or diminutive. It is the same meaning as the above, that there is a barrier, 'veil', or one-way mirror that prevents both Gentiles as well as Jews from knowing everything that is God's to know. It's not yet our time. "For now we see through a glass, darkly; but then face to face: now I know in part; but then shall I know even as also I am known."

Hence, Paul says, "For we know in part, and we prophesy in part. But when that which is perfect is come, then that which is in part shall be done away." He does not say "we know better" or that "we are perfected", indicating the old is obsolete and surpassed. No. For now, until Christ returns, the old stands as much as the new. This is for sure.

To illustrate: The iPhone 12 has more features/functions than iPhone 1, obviously, yet both make phone calls. In an emergency situation the iPhone 1, Nokia 5110, Ericsson flip, or dial-up phone, serves nearly the exact same purpose. The difference for newer versions is a greater level of information/knowledge and methods (e.g. SMS, email, apps, etc) to reach others, access to databases etc. All call the same 911 or 000 for the same emergency services department people. Same is true for faith and law. Many executives prefer using older devices for simplicity and reliability, for the routine and structure, and with less interference and distractions. i.e. beware of 'leaven' in new teaching. e.g. the purity of Torah vs church councils.

The same for HD TV, the new has superior clarity of image so that many tiny details are clear, but the message as a whole from the weatherman whether it is sunny or rainy is true for both audiences. Irrespective of mode or medium. The outline or shape of the weatherman is the same. The same news source broadcasted on multiple bandwidths/frequencies. This is how God works cross-culturally. One father, many sons.

A national or kingdom analogy: In the same way that a new colony joins the Commonwealth of Nations, they receive a new constitution and new legislation based on British law plus elements from the former legal system/tradition. They join wilfully and understand the expectations of the Commonwealth, otherwise they do not join. It does not suddenly make English law obsolete as a 'shadow' somehow eclipsed by the new group. The old stands, as does the new. Separate yet united. The English likewise are not judged by American/Australian/Indian law as they are not 'under' that specific system, and yet there is much in 'common'. All stemming from the King’s Court (Curia Regis), based on a single royal court set up for the entire country/Commonwealth and functions by procedural remedies, case by case. The highest court.

i.e. Jews cannot be convicted by Christ's words and much of the NT. Likewise, Gentiles cannot be convicted by Moses's words and much of the OT. It does not make the OT un-true or the NT un-true. Both are true. God is true. Torah and God's law is eternal. The application however varies, case by case, dependant on the judge. "So then every one of us shall give account of himself to God." (Rom 14:12) -- The 12 Apostles will judge the 12 tribes, trial by jury, per Mosaic law. Not one jot or tittle, "until heaven and earth pass away". For Gentiles, the law remains true, but fortunately there are many exemptions also.

Example case: The adulteress in John 7:53-8-11 was not exempt from the law against adultery in the 7th commandment, but rather her case was dismissed for lack of witnesses to convict/stone her. Decorum. "Woman, where are thine accusers? hath no man condemned thee? ...Neither do I condemn thee; go, and sin no more." (v10-11). Hence, the law remains, the decalogue stands, upheld and championed by Christ. But he is not the 'accuser', he is the judge. Even Christ does not, cannot, eliminate the law as he does his Father's will (John 6:38-46), as expressed in Torah and Mosaic law.

You see, grace is by the law. Denial of law is then denial of Christ as judge. Oxymoronic. Illogical.

It ofc also means that human courts are corruptible. However, God's law and God's judgement is perfectly just, for God is justice/righteousness (Ps 50:6). This is the 'hope' in Christ, to be vindicated by God himself. To challenge that is to rebel against God, undermining his law-word. A lethal stance.

Gentiles are under grace, yes thank God. And the response to grace is the keeping of the law, not lawlessness or license.

To study Scripture without studying its law is to deny it. The consequence of that is denial by Christ: "I profess unto them, I never knew you: depart from me, ye that work iniquity." (Mt 7:23)
 
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Sabbatismos is used here to indicate the perpetual Sabbath rest to be enjoyed uninterruptedly by believers in their fellowship with the Father and the Son under the New Covenant in contrast to the weekly Sabbath under the Old Covenant of the Law. In this verse the writer is referring to a divine rest into which the believers enter in their relationship with God not just in eternity future but (in my opinion) also in the here and now while still on earth (albeit our spiritual rest will not be perfected until we reach glory in the presence of God).

Hagner - The rare Greek word for Sabbath-rest in this verse (sabbatismos) is deliberately used by the author in place of the word for “rest” used previously in his argument (katapausis) in order to emphasize that the rest of which he has been speaking is of an eschatological order-indeed, of the order of God’s own sabbath-rest. God’s sabbath-rest thus becomes a symbol for our rest. (New International biblical commentary: Hebrews)

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The author of Hebrews admonishes Jewish Christians to enter God’s “rest” (Heb 3–4). The author infers from Scripture and Israel’s history that “there remains a sabbath rest [sabbatismos] for the people of God” (Heb 4:9).

The reference here is not to weekly Sabbaths or to any particular holy day, but to the eschatological fulfillment of God’s will.

Half right. "Sabbatismos" (σαββατισμὸς) is a noun in singular form to indicating a singular rest-thing, perhaps meaning 'final rest' (place) or a 'complete rest' that is a the sum of all subsequent rests. It doesn't however take away the weekly sabbath, shmita, jubilee, etc. Not at all. The verse contains no definite article to assert that it is "the rest".

There is a 2 part rest, for body and soul. Rest for such is contrast to destroduction: "And fear not them which kill the body, but are not able to kill the soul: but rather fear him which is able to destroy both soul and body in hell." (Mt 10:28)

Sabbatismos refers to the union of the two, completion. Per the Lord's promise: "ye shall find rest unto your souls." (Mt 11:29) The spiritual component is something internal that fixes our physical fallibility. "He that believeth on me, ...out of his belly shall flow rivers of living water." (Jn 7:38 and many other places).

The law or the 4th commandment is not diminished because the 'Yoke' referred to here is the law or Torah or Pentateuch. "Take my yoke upon you, and learn of me; for I am meek and lowly in heart: and ye shall find rest unto your souls." (Mt 11:29) Explained by John 5:46-47, "For had ye believed Moses, ye would have believed me; for he wrote of me. But if ye believe not his writings, how shall ye believe my words?"--Knowledge works hand in hand with 'belief' and the promise of rest. The culture of antinomianism and failure to study/teach Torah worsens Gentile depravity/immorality.

Sabbatismos no doubt refers to a heavenly rest. Hence, Strongs says "from a derivative of ... a "sabbatism", i.e. (figuratively) the repose of Christianity (as a type of heaven):—rest." It is clearly about a greater rest that eclipses all sabbaths, but it does not necessarily diminish the weekly sabbath, currently, as it too is a type of heavenly rest albeit exponentially smaller.

Hence, the root word of Sabbatismos is "sabbaton" (σάββατον). From σάββατον (sábbaton, “Sabbath”), from Hebrew שַׁבָּת‎ (shabát). That indicates a lesser and greater sabbath, or a primitive and elaborate sabbath. As seen in Judaic "high sabbath" or "high day" (e.g. in John 19:31).

The expression "Sabbatismos" contains TWO meanings/definitions, supported by Thayers:

σαββατισμός, σαββατισμου, ὁ (σαββατίζω to keep the sabbath);
  1. a keeping sabbath.
  2. the blessed rest from toils and troubles looked for in the age to come by the true worshippers of God and true Christians (R. V. sabbath rest): Hebrews 4:9. (Plutarch, de superstit. c. 3; ecclesiastical writings.)
 
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Half right. "Sabbatismos" (σαββατισμὸς) is a noun in singular form to indicating a singular rest-thing, perhaps meaning 'final rest' (place) or a 'complete rest' that is a the sum of all subsequent rests. It doesn't however take away the weekly sabbath, shmita, jubilee, etc. Not at all. The verse contains no definite article to assert that it is "the rest".
You are correct the word does in no way take away the weekly Sabbath requirement for the Jews. The requirement had already ceased to be a requirement according to Eph 2:15, Col 2:16-17, 2Cor3:6-11, Gal 3:19 and, of course Matt 5:17-18.

Just to remind readers, gentiles were never under the dictates of the covenant given only to Israel.

Phil, a question for you, are you Jewish? Do you personally observe the Sabbath as it was reiterated to the children of Israel and those who sojourned with the Israelites at Mt Sinai?

There is a 2 part rest, for body and soul. Rest for such is contrast to destroduction: "And fear not them which kill the body, but are not able to kill the soul: but rather fear him which is able to destroy both soul and body in hell." (Mt 10:28)
If you would please give us some light on the meaning of destroduction. We need to know what it means before we can possibly agree or refute your statement.

Sabbatismos refers to the union of the two, completion. Per the Lord's promise: "ye shall find rest unto your souls." (Mt 11:29) The spiritual component is something internal that fixes our physical fallibility. "He that believeth on me, ...out of his belly shall flow rivers of living water." (Jn 7:38 and many other places).
To this day almost all Jews have failed to find rest for their souls in Christ. The invitation still stands Matt11:28

The law or the 4th commandment is not diminished because the 'Yoke' referred to here is the law or Torah or Pentateuch. "Take my yoke upon you, and learn of me; for I am meek and lowly in heart: and ye shall find rest unto your souls." (Mt 11:29) Explained by John 5:46-47, "For had ye believed Moses, ye would have believed me; for he wrote of me. But if ye believe not his writings, how shall ye believe my words?"--Knowledge works hand in hand with 'belief' and the promise of rest. The culture of antinomianism and failure to study/teach Torah worsens Gentile depravity/immorality.
That may have been true before Jesus, we are not priyy as to what gentiles really knew

Sabbatismos no doubt refers to a heavenly rest. Hence, Strongs says "from a derivative of ... a "sabbatism", i.e. (figuratively) the repose of Christianity (as a type of heaven):—rest." It is clearly about a greater rest that eclipses all sabbaths, but it does not necessarily diminish the weekly sabbath, currently, as it too is a type of heavenly rest albeit exponentially smaller.
That is not what Heb 4 is teaching. It is teaching that TODAY we can have Rest in Jesus. It is not something far off or something we cannot obtain TODAY, right this instance.

Hence, the root word of Sabbatismos is "sabbaton" (σάββατον). From σάββατον (sábbaton, “Sabbath”), from Hebrew שַׁבָּת‎ (shabát). That indicates a lesser and greater sabbath, or a primitive and elaborate sabbath. As seen in Judaic "high sabbath" or "high day" (e.g. in John 19:31).
What could be any greater than resting in Christ?

The expression "Sabbatismos" contains TWO meanings/definitions, supported by Thayers:

σαββατισμός, σαββατισμου, ὁ (σαββατίζω to keep the sabbath);
  1. a keeping sabbath.
  2. the blessed rest from toils and troubles looked for in the age to come by the true worshippers of God and true Christians (R. V. sabbath rest): Hebrews 4:9. (Plutarch, de superstit. c. 3; ecclesiastical writings.)
I certainly would not use Plutarch as a reference. In the age to come there will be no toils and trouble. Satan and his host will be in the lake of fire, not tempting the righteous in our eternal home. TODAY, right now, we can find the true Rest.

I look forward to your response.
 
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God gave mankind the Sabbath in Gen 2:1-3
how does this address purpose? It is the explicit request of the OP yet everyone is fixated on requirement. So let's say God gave mankind the Sabbath according to Gen 2:2-3. What then is the purpose of giving it to mankind?

I agree with thinking about it - but I don't agree with trying to find a way out of it.

Then Let's agree together and discuss the purpose, as is the explicit request of the OP (not about exploiting purpose) I'm not sure what the difficulting is with answering this question. Your post talks around the question, even accusing me of "trying to find a way around it" but does not answer the question. I'm not addressing the requirement so how can I be accused of finding a way around it?

Please stick to the OP. The purpose of the Sabbath is not to obey the Sabbath which would be circler. Let's get on track here.

What is the purpose of the Sabbath?
 
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"Foreshadow" and "shadow" is commonly assumed to be negative when it is not.
By whom. . .Irrelevant.
Nor is there superiority in 'new' covenants or dispensations.
That would be egotistic or narcissistic.
Who made that rule? . . .Actually, that would be Biblical.

The New Covenant is the fulfillment of the Old Covenant, which was temporarily added to the Abrahamic covenant (Galatians 3:19; Romans 5:20).
The only superiority or completeness is in Christ actually, physically, completely. Until then, everything is a sketch of the new kingdom, including sabbath.
The new kingdom was set up at the first coming of Christ (Matthew 21:43; Luke 11:20),
it is not of this world (John 18:36),
it is spiritual--invisible and within (Luke 17:20-21) the hearts where he reigns and rules,
it is never ending (Luke 1:33), there is no other kingdom, for Christ does not have two kingdoms,
and we are reigning now with Christ in that kingdom (Ephesians 2:6).

And the Sabbath in that spiritual kingdom is spiritual--a resting from our own works to save and in Christs' finished work which saves (Hebrews 3:7-4:11).
That is NT apostolic teaching.
Two branches, one root.
Previously addressed.
One faith, one Baptism, one salvation, one Messiah. The many covenants and dispensations are equivalent. The 'new wine' is still wine, it doesn't make the 'old wine' worse or the new better or superior. There is no supersession, no replacement, no contradiction, in 'fore' or 'aft' covenants or dispensations. The old is not 'overshadowed'.
Previously addressed. . .see the NT apostolic teaching of Hebrews 8:13.
 
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the whole creation account is in a chiastic structure and the parallel chiasmus helps us understand the point being made. Day 1 is linked to day 4, day 2 is linked with day 5 and day 3 is linked to day 6 (for example day 2 the waters are separated forming the oceans/skies, day 5 fish/birds are filled in the oceans/skies). if you read the accounts you see the pattern of the first 3 days God is organizing/separating, and the last 3 days God is filling up and each unfolds in the same order. This covers days 1-6 but the rest of the account is still in a chiastic structure the first is in the first verse "in the beginning God created the heavens and the earth" which is paralleled with 2:1 "thus the heavens and the earth were created" and acts like bookends to the account.

There is only one parallel left and this is day 7 what does it link to? the only part left.

1:2 "Now the earth was formless and empty, darkness was over the surface of the deep, and the Spirit of God was hovering over the waters."

is paralleled with

2:2-3 "By the seventh day God had finished the work he had been doing; so on the seventh day he rested from all his work. Then God blessed the seventh day and made it holy, because on it he rested from all the work of creating that he had done.

I call it Day 0 and Day 7

so what does this tell us about the purpose of the Sabbath? it tells us it is the answer to Genesis 1:2. the answer that which is formless, empty and dark. So the Sabbath is the opposite and using the creation account we can see what the sabbath is and what it is not. the Sabbath is not formless it is formed, not empty it is full, not of darkness it is of light. And these are the exact focuses of the creation account, speaking light, forming, and filling until complete which ushers in the Sabbath. So the Sabbath is the state of fruition and culminating point of creation. Because God completed his work it is finished so it is holy and the work is rested and this is the Sabbath of creation.

The 4th commandment tells us to "remember the Sabbath day" (Ex 20:8) which connects it back to the beginning. It tells instructions on how to keep the Sabbath and gives us the reason and motivation in the law to keep it saying "For in six days the Lord made the heavens and the earth, the sea, and all that is in them, but he rested on the seventh day." (Ex 20:11) So the Sabbath day of law mirrors the rest God took on the 7th day. That rest, however, is not the rest of human fatigue it is the rest of a finished work that only God can do. The Sabbath day in the law tells us to remember a day but we can never achieve that kind of completion.

Hebrews 4:10 tells us "for anyone who enters God’s rest also rests from their works, just as God did from his." We first enter God's rest and the act of this invokes the rest from works too, "just as God did from his". We cannot rest as God did because that rest is contingent upon a finished work that only God can do. If creation is a salvation metaphor as 2 Cor 4:6-7 alludes to then that finished work is us. God doing a work in us starting by speaking light until complete and this is when we experience rest "just as God did form his"

This is embedded in the law itself as the law says "On it you shall not do any work, neither you, nor your son or daughter, nor your male or female servant, nor your animals, nor any foreigner residing in your towns." (Ex 20:10) this law is spoken to the heads of the households, those who have authority over the people in their household. it starts saying "you shall not do any work" then continues "neither you, nor your son or daughter, nor your male or female servant, nor your animals, nor any foreigner residing in your towns." so the context is clear that the "you" is the one with authority over the households. in ancient cultures explicit permission from the master is needed to do things in the household. this includes wives, children, servants/slaves, animals and even the people passing through the towns. This is especially clear with servants and animals, even more so with animals. A working animal cannot rest unless they are given that rest. if they lay down on the field in the middle of work they will be beaten. it is only when the master gives them rest that they may take rest and outside of that they have no authority to rest, even if they work to death they have no still have no authority to rest.

Our master is Christ and just as an Ox can only take rest if it is given by the master only Christ can give us rest and only he has authority over the rest. He says he is "Lord of the Sabbath" (Mat 12:8) which means the Sabbath is for him and he has authority over the Sabbath. He also offers us his rest (Mat 11:28-30). So Christ is the master of the Sabbath, he has authority over it and he offers us rest.

So with all that what is the purpose of the Sabbath? it is spiritual completeness that we receive through Christ, which is a parallel of the completeness of creation and Christ has the authority to give it. It is not just salvation but the completed works of the new creation in us (2 Cor 5:17) and because of this, just like the day, we are called blessed and holy.

Very observant! The 'bookends' to the chiastic structure is 'from creation to creation'. Explained as Christ is "Alpha and Omega, the beginning and the end, the first and the last" (Rev 1:8, 22:13), "Jesus the author and finisher of our faith" (Heb 12:2)

See chiastic structure here, for reference, Literary structure (chiasm, chiasmus) of each pericopes of Book of Genesis

The structure matches Jewish/rabbinical timekeeping, calculating backwards, by diving the total number of daylight hours by 12 to get a 'proportional hour'. Used to calculate zemanim (“times”) for planning Sabbath candle lighting hours and planning/observing holidays. Also 2 lots of 6 is 12, which may indicate 2 forms of creation.

Christ calculated "the fourth watch of the night' (Mt 14:25) by dividing the evening into quarters, I assume is based on measuring the North Star. Perhaps something can then be deduced from the 4 stages in relation to Ps 90:4 “For a thousand years in thy sight are but as yesterday when it is past, and as a watch in the night.” And 1 Thes 5:5-6 "Ye are all the children of light, and the children of the day: we are not of the night, nor of darkness.Therefore let us not sleep, as do others; but let us watch and be sober."

Jewish time is also understood not linearly but as a spiral or helix, recurring cycles of weeks, months, years, into eternity. Sabbath then is part and parcel with eternity. A rhythm, matching the 'Helical Model' that our solar system is a vortex, spiralling towards a destination.

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Rabbi Dessler described time as a spiral. As we travel through time we return to key moments of the past and recapture the inherent spiritual energy. This is why Jewish holidays are referred to in Hebrew as moadim (meeting places). Similarly, the Hebrew word zman (time) means designated or appointed because every moment in time has been appointed with a specific spiritual purpose.

Read that as a prefiguration of the planet's destination. Per Ps 24, "The earth is the Lord's, and the fulness thereof; the world, and they that dwell therein."

That explains why "This generation shall not pass, till all these things be fulfilled" where no man or angel knows the "day and hour" (Mt 24:36) but God himself, as creation pertains to the Book of Life and those he has chosen to populate his kingdom. "Watch therefore: for ye know not what hour your Lord doth come." (Mt 24:42) It is "until the fulness of the Gentiles be come in" (Rom 11:25) and the "broken branches" (Rom 11) of Israel return/repent.

Hence, "Before the mountains were brought forth, or ever thou hadst formed the earth and the world, even from everlasting to everlasting, thou art God." (Ps 90:2) The same AA repetition as the chiastic structure is featured in the Psalmist's statement about creation/formation, and God's authorship. Creation is sandwiched within that from Adam to Christ.

Sabbath is then a vessel and covenant, a springboard that projects a believer into the everlasting, or at least towards that end. Uniting believers across generations in human history, as one people on the same frequency. A spiritual kind of 'space-time travel' for lack of better term.

Hence a perpetual sign and covenant. "Wherefore the children of Israel shall keep the sabbath, to observe the sabbath throughout their generations, for a perpetual covenant." (Ex 31:16)

This is the dilemma of Gentile exceptionalism. Because, "Blessed are they that do his commandments, that they may have right to the tree of life, and may enter in through the gates into the city." (Rev 22:14)
 
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The new kingdom was set up at the first coming of Christ (Matthew 21:43; Luke 11:20)...
and we are reigning now with Christ in that kingdom (Ephesians 2:6).

And the Sabbath in that spiritual kingdom is spiritual--a resting from our own works to save and in Christs' finished work which saves (Hebrews 3:7-4:11).
That is NT apostolic teaching..

About that.

In Lk 11:10, "is come" (ἔφθασεν ephthasen) is a verb in 'aorist active indicative' tense, meaning the action is 'indeterminate, indefinite' (Jeff Smelser). It can refer both to that specific time (in the past) and a future time, "at the beginning (“ingressive”) or to the end (“consummative”), or something regardless of any time reference (“gnomic”), or proleptic (futuristic) a future event and emphasize the certainty of the action." (Bill Mounce)

That matches the puzzling purpose of Sabbath and its many forms.

In Mt 21, "shall be taken" (ἀρθήσεται arthesetai) is a verb in "future passive indicative". Perhaps relating to the eternal Sabbath.

Neither are 'complete' or 'perfect' tense.

The view in your post is pre-millennial yet by acknowledging a "first coming of Christ" surely you realise a second coming? If so then you cannot be "reigning now with Christ in that kingdom". Pre-mil theology jars/clashes with many passages including Israel's restoration and the "rest" that is promised. For pre-millienialism to be true Rev 21 would have to be false, surely not: "And I saw a new heaven and a new earth: for the first heaven and the first earth were passed away; and there was no more sea. And I John saw the holy city, new Jerusalem, coming down from God out of heaven".

In relation to that and the purpose of Sabbath, Jeremiah 30 says,

"For, lo, the days come, saith the Lord, that I will bring again the captivity of my people Israel and Judah, saith the Lord: and I will cause them to return to the land that I gave to their fathers, and they shall possess it. ... Therefore fear thou not, O my servant Jacob, saith the LORD; neither be dismayed, O Israel: for, lo, I will save thee from afar, and thy seed from the land of their captivity; and Jacob shall return, and shall be in rest (saqat, to rest, to have quiet, to lie down), and be quiet, and none shall make him afraid." (Jer 30:3, 10)

Oddly, this verse is missing from the Greek Septuagint... so maybe some of your Bibles may have this missing also...

See the physical component yourselves in the Lexicons.
Sabbath then functions as God's patience, a measurement of time, waiting week after week for man to conform to his will. From creation, to building and restoring Israel, and the repurposing of the Gentiles or Goy (nations) as kingdoms in the Commonwealth of Israel.
 
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Just to remind readers, gentiles were never under the dictates of the covenant given only to Israel.

Past tense, and imperfect tense. But now, in response to God’s grace, “we establish the law.” (Rom 3:31) Gentiles stand in to do what Jews failed to do, until Israel returns to their former glory.

"We establish" = ἱστῶμεν histemin = present active indicative - 1st person plural. Not redundant.

That is, sabbath-keeping “by the law of faith” not by strict orchestration via Rabbinical-judaism and hypocritical behaviour elsewhere. Same for Christendom and orthodoxy. “Therefore it is of faith, that it might be by grace; to the end the promise might be sure to all the seed; not to that only which is of the law, but to that also which is of the faith of Abraham; who is the father of us all” (Rom 4:16)
 
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I do struggle with does it have to be Sunday. It is hard in our time of life to just have Sundays off. Though I usually do myself. Unless I need to pick up a Sunday at work. I don't usually attend church to often on Sunday due to my schedule. I am usually just to tired. I will try and watch a stream later in the day on Sunday though. Otherwise I try to make it on a Wednesday even though I do work those days.
It's always best to let scripture answer our questions instead of coming up with our own meanings, which scripture warns us about. Proverbs 3:5

Exodus 20:8 “Remember the Sabbath day, to keep it holy. 9 Six days you shall labor and do all your work, 10 but the seventh day is the Sabbath of the Lord your God. In it you shall do no work: you, nor your son, nor your daughter, nor your male servant, nor your female servant, nor your cattle, nor your stranger who is within your gates. 11 For in six days the Lord made the heavens and the earth, the sea, and all that is in them, and rested the seventh day. Therefore the Lord blessed the Sabbath day and hallowed it.

Leviticus 23:3 ‘Six days shall work be done, but the seventh day is the Sabbath of solemn rest, a holy convocation. You shall do no work on it; it is the Sabbath of the LORD in all your dwellings.

Isaiah 58:13 “If you turn away your foot from the Sabbath, From doing your pleasure on My holy day, And call the Sabbath a delight, The holy day of the LORD honorable, And shall honor Him, not doing your own ways, Nor finding your own pleasure, Nor speaking your own words,

Isaiah 66:23 And from one Sabbath to another,
All flesh shall come to worship before Me,” says the Lord.

What did Jesus do on the Sabbath day?
In the Temple reading the scriptures. Luke 4:16-22

The Sabbath is the holy day of God and the day God commanded us to keep holy. The day is about honoring God, turning from our ways and pleasure and keeping our thoughts and actions towards our Lord. It's having an appointment every seventh day for communion time with our Lord and Savior on the only day He blessed, sanctified and made holy.
 
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I do struggle with does it have to be Sunday. It is hard in our time of life to just have Sundays off. Though I usually do myself. Unless I need to pick up a Sunday at work. I don't usually attend church to often on Sunday due to my schedule. I am usually just to tired. I will try and watch a stream later in the day on Sunday though. Otherwise I try to make it on a Wednesday even though I do work those days.

Hi, thanks for the post.

I think its important to follow God, the way He has asked us to follow Him. When we live our life the way He has asked, God will bless us and will help us find a way. I know this from firsthand experience.

Its a common practice to that Sunday is the day of worship, but you won't find one scripture that says Sunday, the first day is the day God blessed, sanctified and set aside as the holy day or God's chosen day of worship. This is why reading our bibles for ourselves is very important instead of following the popular crowd.

This is the scripture and commandment of God.

Exodus 20:8 “Remember the Sabbath day, to keep it holy. 9 Six days you shall labor and do all your work, 10 but the seventh day is the Sabbath of the Lord your God. In it you shall do no work: you, nor your son, nor your daughter, nor your male servant, nor your female servant, nor your cattle, nor your stranger who is within your gates. 11 For in six days the Lord made the heavens and the earth, the sea, and all that is in them, and rested the seventh day. Therefore the Lord blessed the Sabbath day and hallowed it.

The Sabbath is on the seventh day, which is Saturday, not Sunday. I believe we should follow God exactly as He has instructed. God is very particular, He told Adam and Eve they could not eat from one tree in the garden, and they disobeyed which separated God from man. If God cared about a tree, He cares about how we are to worship Him and keeping His Sabbath holy, just as He asked. Try organizing your life by putting God first and I can bet your life will only change for the better!
 
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