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Corporate lobbyists do not control politicians, they influence politicians. And lobbyists aren’t the only ones influencing politicians.

You jokin’ right? You honestly don’t believe black people have any power in this country? We just had a 2 term black President! Ever heard of the Congressional Black Caucus? Currently they represent 82 million Americans; over 25% of the entire US population. Black people make up only 13% of the population yet the black Caucus represents over twice that amount.
the members of the congressional black caucus make up only about 9% of congress
Keep in mind; not every black person chooses to join the CBC so when you consider the entire number of black people representing, it is actually more!
who is declining to join?
 
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Corporate lobbyists do not control politicians, they influence politicians. And lobbyists aren’t the only ones influencing politicians.
What an quaint mindset but simply put. IT is demonstrably wrong.
How Corporate Lobbyists Conquered American Democracy

I'm going to try to find this shockingly brilliant data analysis that CLEARLY shows that the affect of the opinion of lobbyists had a GREATER affect on the outcome of a bill's success, than the will of the people being governed. It was one of the most beautiful data set analysis I've seen as it was so simple but so clearly demonstrated hte problem. I'm hoping I can find it back.

But just for your reading's sake:
The Influence of Lobbying Activity in State Legislatures: Evidence from Wisconsin on JSTOR
Here's a paper that shows that lobbying is most effective with issues that are not in the public eye. Isn't it interesting that the more the public knows about an issue the less effective lobbying becomes?
But sure, corporate lobbyists don't control politicians.

Dag nabbit! I don't have enough time to find it. And sadly, I can't remember where I saw it lsat (though I am 99% sure I saw it here on CF at least once, a while ago).
 
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And there's the racism bleeding through. As if having safe neighborhoods and schools were a "white interest". Granted, CR theorists also assert that "being on time" and "valuing education" are "white"things.
which CR theorists assert that? Is there some context missing here?
 
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White people already know their lives matter. Now they need to accept that black lives matter also. So do you.
Can’t you see the contradiction in what you just said?
That's right, you never heard of big tobacco,
Yeah; except they aren’t so big in this country anymore every since the politicians cut them down to size; so much for corporations controlling politicians huh?
THe Federal Reserve, Aviation (Boeing gets a billion-dollar check every year to keep their company here,
Boeing was offered tax breaks because of the tax revenue they provide. That’s like me owing $10 worth of taxes, they give me a $2 tax break so I only pay $8 bucks; then you complain that they are giving me $2.
big oil (who got the Prez to halt all green initiatives implemented by the previous administration). There are plenty more players than that and yes they do control the politicians the get elected through their finance and connections.
I challenge you to name a politician that is controlled by a lobbyist.
First off Obama is 1/2 black.
According to ancestry.com, most african americans are only 65% black What’s your point? You gonna make a big deal that he is 15% below the average?
You think he would have got elected without a connected liberal white mother.
Yes
He would have never made it on the ballot.
What do you base this on?

What did he do for black people anyway? What has the black caucus done besides eat brunch and talk about issues? What laws have they passed to kelp black Americans? I didn't see you talking about anything they have accomplished but get elected and represent oh so many people. What did they do for their two times the black population?
Black politicians represent all americans; not just black americans.
 
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What an quaint mindset but simply put. IT is demonstrably wrong.
How Corporate Lobbyists Conquered American Democracy

I'm going to try to find this shockingly brilliant data analysis that CLEARLY shows that the affect of the opinion of lobbyists had a GREATER affect on the outcome of a bill's success, than the will of the people being governed. It was one of the most beautiful data set analysis I've seen as it was so simple but so clearly demonstrated hte problem. I'm hoping I can find it back.

But just for your reading's sake:
The Influence of Lobbying Activity in State Legislatures: Evidence from Wisconsin on JSTOR
Here's a paper that shows that lobbying is most effective with issues that are not in the public eye. Isn't it interesting that the more the public knows about an issue the less effective lobbying becomes?
But sure, corporate lobbyists don't control politicians.

Dag nabbit! I don't have enough time to find it. And sadly, I can't remember where I saw it lsat (though I am 99% sure I saw it here on CF at least once, a while ago).
Okay. When you find something that proves corporate lobbyists have complete control of all the Politicians, lemme know. Till then, I will be looking foreword to your response.
 
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Can’t you see the contradiction in what you just said?
No, but stay strong and keep on :oldthumbsup:

You obviously know the truth, what's really happening with politicians, and the benevolence of government agencies and politicians in the USA. Sleep tight, secure in the knowledge that there is no such thing as government corruption nor racism in America. :clap:
 
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Okay. When you find something that proves corporate lobbyists have complete control of all the Politicians, lemme know. Till then, I will be looking foreword to your response.
Ad reductio.

Sorry.
I'm not saying that.
 
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I would too if I believed there was no government corruption, racism is a thing of the past, and black people are in control of the country.
Are you under the impression that I believe that crazy stuff? Have you been listening to anything I've said thus far?
 
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