Maga Republicans & Woke Liberal Extremism

timothyu said:

That is as seen by those lower down, but the elites using the press to put forward these things are more concerned about globalism than silly culture wars or the favourite American pastime of mockery.

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Despite the seemingly joking use of the term “globalist” by Trump and Mulvaney, many were quick to point to the word’s unseemly past as an anti-Semitic slur, embraced in alt-right circles before spreading into broader political discourse. As the Anti-Defamation League’s Jonathan Greenblatt put it, “Where the term originates from is a reference to Jewish people who are seen as having allegiances not to their countries of origin like the United States, but to some global conspiracy.” Greenblatt said it’s “disturbing” when public officials “literally parrot this term which is rooted in prejudice.”
https://www.theatlantic.com/politics/archive/2018/03/the-origins-of-the-globalist-slur/555479/

Well in todays real world it refers to those for instance aligned with the WEF... the build back better, Great Reset crew, with their global Corporatist unelected world government.

timothyu said:

Well in todays real world it refers to those for instance aligned with the WEF... the build back better, Great Reset crew, with their global Corporatist unelected world government.

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Especially if they are Jewish...

White supremacists have used the term as a barely concealed dog-whistle for several years, but the problem comes when it’s used in the ‘globalist vs. nationalist’ economic debate
https://www.haaretz.com/us-news/201...e-bannon/0000017f-e93f-df5f-a17f-fbffacae0000

Laconia79 said:

First off, Biden in his speech was targeting extremist republicans, and most republican's did not seem to understand that.

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First off, he was talking about MAGA Republicans. What is a MAGA Republican exactly? I am not a fan of Donald Trump, but I do agree with many of the positions he advocated, like secure borders, energy independence, protecting our trade interests, etc. I don't think Making America Great is a bad idea. Does that make me MAGA?

Biden is demonizing and dehumanizing the other side, which is never a good thing. IMO Democrats are by far the greater threat to democracy because they wield more power, openly try to shut down any dissenting view,are working toward a one party (totalitarian) system, and are close to achieving it.

As for Republicans being violent, everyone knows leftists commit the vast majority of violence in our country. The MAGA folks (though I would not claim them) rioted for three hours on one day, and Alec Baldwin killed more people than they did.

iarwain said:

As for Republicans being violent, everyone knows leftists commit the vast majority of violence in our country.

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Well, let's take a look at that belief...

FBI Director Christopher Wray told Congress on Tuesday that the agency has seen an increase in the number of domestic terror arrests this fiscal year, a majority of which have been motivated by white supremacy.

Wray told the Senate Judiciary Committee that the FBI has recorded about 100 domestic terrorism arrests in the last nine months. “A majority of the domestic terrorism cases we’ve investigated are motivated by some version of what you might call white supremacist violence,” he told the panel.Wray said the number of the domestic terrorism arrests has increased and is now close to the number of international terrorism arrests the bureau has made.

Wray’s testimony followed a House Homeland Security Committee hearing in May, where FBI counterterrorism chief Michael McGarrity testified that the bureau was investigating 850 potential domestic terrorism cases. McGarrity said that nearly half of the cases involved racially motivated extremists, most of whom were white supremacists.
FBI Director to Congress: Most domestic terror cases are driven by ‘white supremacist violence’ (Trump?) – VT | Foreign Policy Journal

The U.S. government is acknowledging for the first time that right-wing extremists were responsible for the majority of fatal domestic terrorist attacks last year, according to an internal report circulated by the Department of Homeland Security last week and obtained by Yahoo News.

A review of last year’s domestic terrorist incidents by a DHS fusion center — which shares threat-related information between federal, state and local partners — found that although civil unrest and antigovernment violence were associated with “non-affiliated, right-wing and left-wing actors, right-wing [domestic violent extremists] were responsible for the majority of fatal attacks in the Homeland in 2020.”
Feds now say right-wing extremists responsible for majority of deadly terrorist attacks last year

Looks like you have it backwards.

iarwain said:

The MAGA folks (though I would not claim them) rioted for three hours on one day

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[sarcasm]Hey, what's a little coup attempt, trying to overthrow the Constitution and kill the Vice President? (WFTH-I) The left did that lots of times... er... well... OK, they never did that, but Trump told his people to do it, so they had permission, right?[/sarcasm]

We all see that you don't agree with what these Trump supporters did and are doing. And it would be wrong to say every Trump supporter is an anti-American thug. But there are a lot of them, and they nearly pulled off a coup Jan 6. And as even Trump's own FBI director says, they are responsible for most of the political violence in America. That's why we need to run them all down and deal with them.

The Barbarian said:

A review of last year’s domestic terrorist incidents by a DHS fusion center — which shares threat-related information between federal, state and local partners — found that although civil unrest and antigovernment violence were associated with “non-affiliated, right-wing and left-wing actors, right-wing [domestic violent extremists] were responsible for the majority of fatal attacks in the Homeland in 2020.”

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The FBI is working as a wing of the Democrat party, and will label things according to their narrative. The idea that more right wingers were responsible for fatal violence than left wingers in 2020 is frankly laughable. We have eyes.

iarwain said:

The FBI is working as a wing of the Democrat party,

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Sorry, "they are all lying, all of them!" isn't a credible excuse. The data show that right-wing violence is much more common than left-wing violence. You can like it or not like it. But the reality remains.

iarwain said:

The idea that more right wingers were responsible for fatal violence than left wingers in 2020 is frankly laughable.

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It's just a fact. No point in denial. Find a way to live with the reality.

iarwain said:

We have eyes.

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It's not a failure of seeing that's causing you to mess up here.

A review of last year’s domestic terrorist incidents by a DHS fusion center — which shares threat-related information between federal, state and local partners — found that although civil unrest and antigovernment violence were associated with “non-affiliated, right-wing and left-wing actors, right-wing [domestic violent extremists] were responsible for the majority of fatal attacks in the Homeland in 2020.”

Notice that it's state and federal data that agree that right-wing violence is much more common than left-wing violence.

So will it now be "all the police in all the states are lying, too"? C'mon.

iarwain said:

First off, he was talking about MAGA Republicans. What is a MAGA Republican exactly? I am not a fan of Donald Trump, but I do agree with many of the positions he advocated, like secure borders, energy independence, protecting our trade interests, etc. I don't think Making America Great is a bad idea. Does that make me MAGA?

Biden is demonizing and dehumanizing the other side, which is never a good thing. IMO Democrats are by far the greater threat to democracy because they wield more power, openly try to shut down any dissenting view,are working toward a one party (totalitarian) system, and are close to achieving it.

As for Republicans being violent, everyone knows leftists commit the vast majority of violence in our country. The MAGA folks (though I would not claim them) rioted for three hours on one day, and Alec Baldwin killed more people than they did.

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LOL, I was watching "The Hodgetwins," on the PDP Podcast yesterday.

Funny how they said their ratings were through the roof before they came out
in YouTube video. Then they were wearing MAGA hats. Their ratings fell through the
floor as blacks dropped them.

According to them, blacks react to the emotions thrown by the left.
They're not total supporters of Donald Trump, and lean more towards
Desantis.

However, the left is now in the business of taking down Desantis popularity by suing him for flying Venezuelan refugees to Martha's Vinyard.

iarwain said:

Biden is demonizing and dehumanizing the other side, which is never a good thing.

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That's all they seem to have isn't it. The left leaning politicians and media are constantly badmouthing not policies but politicians in an attempt to discredit the opposition, not their politics. Is this a high school student elect of popularity or one where issues matter to the people and remaining a nation rather than a globalist entity is more important? Get over play on emotions and get back to the reality of issues.

JimR-OCDS said:

However, the left is now in the business of taking down Desantis popularity by suing him for flying Venezuelan refugees to Martha's Vinyard.

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It's all a tv reality show, and we know reality shows are far from it.

JimR-OCDS said:

However, the left is now in the business of taking down Desantis popularity by suing him for flying Venezuelan refugees to Martha's Vinyard.

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The refugees are suing him. And it's not done his image any good by his abusing people who fled here from a Marxist dictatorship.

The Marxist Venezuelan government probably was delighted. Most Americans, not so much. Bad move, Comrade DeSantis.

The Barbarian said:

Sorry, "they are all lying, all of them!" isn't a credible excuse.

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The FBI isn't credible either. I'm aware you think right wingers were responsible for all the BLM/Antifa violence, it just doesn't convince me.

iarwain said:

The FBI isn't credible either.

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Hmm... you or the FBI... who to pick... who to pick...

JimR-OCDS said:

However, the left is now in the business of taking down Desantis popularity by suing him for flying Venezuelan refugees to Martha's Vinyard.

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I like DeSantis also. But the more serious his candidacy is on the national level, the more the left will give him the Trump treatment. I think DeSantis will stand up against it more credibly though, he's a little more smooth about knowing what not to say. In other words, he has a filter.

iarwain said:

I'm aware you think right wingers were responsible for all the BLM/Antifa violence,

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I've pointed out where Antifa was involved in violence. The data don't now that right wing extremists are responsible for all political violence, nor do law enforcement people say that they are. The data show that most of it is from right wing extremists. Haven't seen any BLM members found to have done that, though. Got some evidence?

Hint: "well, this guy was black, so we can assume he's BLM" will get you laughed at.

it just doesn't convince me.

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That's the funny thing about reality; it doesn't care what we think.

iarwain said:

I like DeSantis also. But the more serious his candidacy is on the national level, the more the left will give him the Trump treatment.

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Actually, DeSantis has kind of done that to himself. Getting into a fight and losing to Mickey Mouse wasn't so good.

And then he did a Dukakis, by doing a video with him in a "Top Gun" playsuit.


And then he tried to get even with some refugees seeking asylum from a Marxist dictatorship by tricking them to get into an airplane to fly to Martha's Vineyard. He'll probably get "Comrade of the Month" from the dictatorship for that one. Fortunately for the refugees, the people of Martha's Vineyard fed them, and took care of them, until the (republican) Governor found them accomodations. Unfortunately for DeSantis, it appears what he did was a criminal offense; the Bexar County Sheriff is now conducting a criminal investigation into his actions. Oh, and the refugees are suing him.

If that isn't Trumpish, I don't know what is. Attention craving, racism, catering to dictators, getting sued and investigated for crimes. Pretty much the whole package, isn't it?

The Barbarian said:

The refugees are suing him. And it's not done his image any good by his abusing people who fled here from a Marxist dictatorship.

The Marxist Venezuelan government probably was delighted. Most Americans, not so much. Bad move, Comrade DeSantis.

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Some refugees are suing him. Of course, the wealthy on Martha's Vineyard are upset over this.

However, what Desantis did is both good and bad. It's good that the wealthy liberals like here in MA, are now experiencing the suffering the towns along the Mexican Border as going through. The bad is, the left will call this a political stunt using the refugees as pawns.

The reality is, they're here illegally and don't have a leg to stand on for being sent into the US by the governors. The federal government was doing the same thing, except allowing them to locate wherever they wished.

iarwain said:

I like DeSantis also. But the more serious his candidacy is on the national level, the more the left will give him the Trump treatment. I think DeSantis will stand up against it more credibly though, he's a little more smooth about knowing what not to say. In other words, he has a filter.

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If Trump decides to run for the GOP nomination, it would be wise for Desantis to wait until 2028. He's young enough and Trump, if he managed to win, could only serve one term.

JimR-OCDS said:

If Trump decides to run for the GOP nomination, it would be wise for Desantis to wait until 2028. He's young enough and Trump, if he managed to win, could only serve one term.

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That's a possibility, but I don't want to see Trump run. The fact that he could only serve one term is just one reason among many. The main reason I don't want to see him run is because he's too old (Biden's age when he ran), he's too damaged, I don't think he can win, I don't think the elites will let him win, and he creates too much of an anti-Republican backlash. But I fully expect him to run.

There's a recent story out where a guy runs over a teenager with a car because of politics, he thought the teen was part of a Republican extremist group. This is the kind of behavior Biden's dangerous rhetoric is incurring.

I sometimes read a forum that is heavily leftist, and there are a bunch of them over there hoping for a civil war so that they will be able to kill Republicans legally. There is some serious hate coming out of the left these days, and Biden is not doing anything to turn down the temperature.