Paul? No. We believe in Jesus Christ and know Him through the Scriptures.
My friend put this together from scripture on how to keep the Sabbath…
Okay, I am not a Seventh Day Adventist, I don't have to answer for those who are. But stoning someone is not part of the fourth commandment or any of the ten commandments. Stoning someone is then being under the law which we are delivered from with what Christ bore for us, so we can still obey God without penalty for any failing that there could be under the law.
Someone arguing that THEY were free to "keep the sabbath" or to "not remarry" or even to "abstain from shellfish and pork" as an act of obedience to God, would find very few arguing against them (there are a few nuts in every bushel). However, for someone to stand on a soapbox in the public market and proclaim that God COMMANDS EVERYONE to "keep the sabbath" and "not remarry" and "abstain from shellfish and pork" OR ELSE THEY WILL BURN IN HELL! is a very different scenario and will generate far more opposition.
Fulfill in Matthew 5:17 means to fill-full and not the opposite of what Jesus said “I did not come to destroy the law” just reading this passage in context Matthew 5:17-30 along with other scripture one would know Jesus did not come to put an end to God’s commandments and now one can worship other gods, vain God’s holy name, covet or steal or break any of God’s commandments. No government can survive on lawlessness and God’s kingdom is no exception, which is why God’s commandments are in Heaven Revelation 11:19 and were written personally on earth by God’s own finger. Exodus 31:18 God’s will for us in heaven is the same for us on earth. Lucifer sinned from the beginning, and it didn’t work out well for him. Should we follow the same path as Lucifer 1 John 3:8 or Jesus 1 John 2:6. Jesus kept the commandments and asked us to as well. John 14:15, John 15:10. There is only one way through Jesus, and we are either with Him or against Him, Jesus asked, If you love Me, keep My commandments. John 14:15 and Jesus came to do the will of His Father John 6:38 who asked the same thing right in the Ten Commandments. Exodus 20:6
What does scripture teach?
So, SB, why are you not observing all of them? If you believe Jesus did not fulfill the old covenant with its 613 laws then why do you remain in the SDA church which does not keep all of the commands of the old covenant? Who gave the authority to the SDA church to pick a few commands out of the old covenant and make them canon? As I just wrote from Jesus words not one jot or one tittle could be removed from the Law. I am sorry that you have been led to believe Jesus didn't fulfil all He came to do before giving His life that all might have eternal life. He said it and I believe it. In the same sentence Jesus said He came to fulfill the prophets. Did Jesus bring the prophesies about Him to an end? That is what He said He came to do and in the same sentence He also said He came to fulfill the Law. Yes, the law is still there for us to read about and study. It was a masterful, meaningful document to guide the Israelites. They failed to live by it and it became a curse to them, it became the ministry of death and according to 2Cor3:6-11 it was done away and replaced by the most powerful, wise and loving Holy Spirit.
I really resent your continued insinuation that unless we keep the old covenant law we are
Sorry SB, Jesus does not keep us from breaking the law or overcome temptation. That is a misnomer, a cliche. that people grasp onto that in reality doesn't happen. Jesus blood covers for our sins. We didn't become robots when we gave our hearts to Jesus. We are still mortals SB. We are sinners saved by grace. I really wish you would stop making statements that sound good, but are not the real truth.
Jesus magnified the Law by His command to us to LOVE others as He loves us.
Here again because of those who write the word lawlessness can only mean all that do not respond to their way of belief are lawless. What a foolish way of thinking. Are those people the judge?
To me that is a self-righteous statement.
Jesus is God and His law is LOVE
The only law that is written in my heart is LOVE. I have never been prompted by the Holy Spirit to observe a day, only eat certain food, not have a little wine, not owning a bicycle, or any of the other prohibitions the church imposes or imposed on the members such as paying a tithe into a false tithing system and having to believe in a woman who wrote unbelievable things.
As an SDA I don't know of any Seventh-day Adventist that does that - and I know quite a few of them. The logical either-or fallacy seldom works. Rather it is "both and" --- so then accepting the Word of God related to the TEN and ALSO accepting that the Word of God teaches that Jesus was raised on the first day of the week. (And noting that the Bible does not say Jesus is raised "weekly")
Also not true.
Also not true. Paul is stated in Acts 21 as keeping the Law of Moses while at the same time informing us that the animal sacrifices ended at the cross in Heb 10:4-13.
Also not true.
The NEW Covenant Jer 31:31-34 is OLD Testament - and is quoted verbatim n Hebrews 8. Gal 1:6-9 says it is the one and only Gospel that was "preached to Abraham" Gal 3:8.
1. There was no SDA denomination in 1844.
Declaring that there is an apostolic custom in the NT that must be followed requires that you first come up with an actual Bible text detailing that custom.
To claim that the NT text shows a custom of attending worship service on Sunday you ... to gather for worship every week on Sunday instead of the 7th day Sabbath -- you first have to post such a text.
The SDAs did not start the practice of meeting every Sabbath for Gospel teaching. That practice actually IS in the NT in Acts 18:4.
If you had even one NT text saying "the church gathers ever Sunday to celebrate the resurrection of Christ" you would not keep skipping that step.
Sin is not keeping commands never given to us SB, why can you not understand this? How could you believe all the other nations were sinning because the didn't observe the laws that were only given to Israel. That would be as absurd just as believing we have to keep it laws of the old covenant when that covenant is no longer in existence.
Absolutely, the commands he quoted are part of the Royal Law of Love, not the ten commandments which he wrote were done away. 2Cor3:6-11 KJV
There were 613 commands in the old covenant SB. None of them are as great as the command Jesus gave to all of us: Jn15:12 My command is this: Love each other as I have loved you. If all in the World would heed this command Jesus would not have had to come to this Earth and sacrifice His life for man.
Instead of teaching that we must observe the Sabbath why not start teaching what Jesus really came to teach? My command is this: Love each other as I have loved you.
The problem is your definition of sin is diametrically different than what we are taught in the New Testament.
The verse says:
Obedience to what, the law of sin and death or Jesus Law of Love?
Amen! We know we of the truth if we believe in the one God sent and obey His command to love others as He loves us. Thank you Lord Jesus.
There is only one covenant, one Savior and one people. Jesus is the Mediator of God's New Covenant where God's laws are written on the hearts and minds of His believers. Hebrews 8:10, Hebrews 10:16, Jeremiah 31:33. I can only speak for myself, but I would not want to write myself out of God's covenant promise. Jesus taught on His Fathers commandments which is demonstrated throughout the New Covenant. To teach that God and Jesus are in conflict with the laws goes against the very teachings of Jesus who condemned people for obeying their own teachings over God's commandments.
