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Hammster said:

We’ve seen that with the religion of secular humanism, that’s for sure.

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You are doing the same thing with your wishing.

Hammster said:

It’s there.

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Yep, same location as Mordor or highgarden.

Hammster said:

That doesn’t help me sleep at night. I rarely think about it. However, I try not to misrepresent other’s views because it means that I’m more interested the discussion than I am in winning. I mean really, when you beat a straw man, what have you accomplished? I guess you might have something to tell your buddies that also think the straw man is true.

Also (and this is a classic example), when you straw man the other person’s argument, you are off the hook for any evidence. All you need to do then is tell the other guy he is dodging when he says that you’ve misrepresented him.

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If you say so.

I'll let others make their own decision as to if what I have said is a strawman or not.

Bradskii said:

No, that's not my position. If someone is meant to have said something there are various options available to decide whether that person has said something factually accurate.

1. He (I'll use 'he' as we're talking about Paul) didn't actually say it.
2. He said it, but he was mistaken.
3. He outright lied.
4. He bent the truth somewhat.
4. It actually happened exactly as he said it did.

Me saying 'No' to the question 'Was he telling the truth' would imply that number 3 was my choice. It isn't. I'd generally take the least argumentative option and run with 2. With a healthy sprinkling of 4.

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Praise God that I do not think Paul was either mistaken, exaggerating or lying.

Hammster said:

I say so. But don’t take my word for it. Thankfully, a lot has been written as to not cause confusion. Here’s a good start. By this standard greg bahnsen

This is Bahnsen’s shorter work on the subject. For a longer treatise, Joseph Boot has Mission of God for $9.99 on Kindle. And a lot of info here. Of course, you are certainly welcome to continue with the straw man. However, with this info available to you, it would just be lying.

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Go ahead and call it lying. I don't believe a word these people are saying.

I stand by my statement.

Hammster said:

Okay. It’s lying. You can not claim ignorance.

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You're right I cannot and won't, but I also will not stay in this country if Christian Nationalism rears its ugly head. I'll move out. Until then, I will fight to not let it happen.

Isilwen said:

You're right I cannot and won't, but I also will not stay in this country if Christian Nationalism rears its ugly head. I'll move out. Until then, I will fight to not let it happen.

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I’m not leaving, they’ll have to kill me to achieve it. As tempting as leaving is, the amount of nukes this country has in the unchallenged hands of people who hum “Glory, Glory, Hallelujah” at the thought of the end of the world, no where on the planet would be safe.

Hammster said:

We’ll both be long gone before it happens. And the fact that you don’t know that just goes to prove further that you don’t know what you are talking about.

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Again, you go ahead and think that I don't know what I'm talking about.

Hammster said:

I’ve demonstrated it. But let me ask you this. If you had a hand in government, would you act in an evil manner?

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Probably not, but I wouldn't have acted in an evil manner even if I wasn't a Christian. I always tried to do good even as A non-Christian.

Mark Quayle said:

Ha! I have even heard it said by some Christians that sin is not God's judgement of what we do, but the devil's judgement, and so, when we think we have sinned, it is the devil telling us so!

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He's quite handy in that regard. It beats me how one can tell the difference between what God tells you to do and what the devil does. Some Christians will give diametrically opposed opinions on the same matter - so one of them is getting the wrong information.

Hammster said:

Okay. It’s lying. You can not claim ignorance.

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Is that not against forum rules? I'm sure I'd be reported if I claimed that a fellow forum member was lying.

Hammster said:

Non-Christians can’t actually do good because they can’t do anything for God’s glory.

But, if you can do good, why don’t you think other Christians can do good?

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And yet I still did good things. Whether for God's glory or not, good is good. If I do something for the someone that is good, whether as a Christian or non-Christian, it is still good. You will not change my mind on this.

As for your question, because I am not other Christians and they aren't me. There are many that can do good. But many that don't.

It also doesn't matter if Christians can do good or not, this country was founded on freedom of religion, that's any religion and we as Christians shouldn't push our ideals on anyone if they do not want to hold those ideals. They should be allowed to choose Christianity, not be forced into it. They should not be forced to live by Christian laws either.

Did not scripture say we are to worry about those in the church and not those outside of it? Seems many Christians forget that scripture and still want to push Christian ideals on everyone.

This is my last post on this. I will not reply again.