the Mark of the Beast, Daniel's 70th week, and Pastor Bill Macgregor

Super Kal · Aug 9, 2022

so, I'll just come out and say it at the beginning so everyone knows how i view this, I'm personally a premillennial, futurist, post-trib. i understand there are others who would disagree with me, and im perfectly fine with that, that's why i dont want to limit who can respond. i would like to hear everyone's thoughts and opinions based on what they have searched and studied

in my search and study of eschatology, i've come across an individual named Pastor Bill MacGregor. now he himself is a post trib, pre wrath, however he does have some peculiar beliefs:

~ he believes that we are in Daniel's 70th week. He equates this due to his belief that the signing of the Abraham Accords was the start of Daniel's 70th week. He also thinks the Jared Kushner is the Antichrist, because it was Kushner who instigated the Abraham Accords.

~ he believes that the vaccine is the Mark of the Beast. he takes this stance based on his belief that the use of luciferase in the vaccine is what will trigger the mark once the use 5G is implemented.

~ he believes that the third seal is currently being opened with Biden and his inflation, while the first seal was Kushner promoting peace with the Abraham Accords, and the second seal being the vaccine.

~ because of his beliefs regarding Daniel's 70th week and the Antichrist, he has recently stated that he has been able to calculate when the rapture would take place: roughly 13 months from, IIRC, September of 2023. He has stated the exact date in some of his sermons, which are found exclusively on bit chute

~ in addition to the above, he has also stated that New York is the harlot of Babylon, New York will be destroyed due to a tsunami created by a nuclear explosion, there are 144,000 frozen Jews in Antarctica and will be unfrozen soon to spread the Gospel (i kid you not)

i would love to hear everyone's thought and opinions based on scriptures as to why this pastor may be right or wrong

Jesse Dornfeld · Aug 9, 2022

The guy is a quack. Don't spend time on guys like him.

frank sears · Aug 9, 2022

Well, he got post-trib and pre-wrath right, however the rest of it seems to be his personal opinions rather than anything backed up by the Bible. New York City would probably be ahead of most cities to qualify to be Babylon, however I do not see enough evidence to back that up or any of his other assertions.

BobRyan · Aug 9, 2022

Super Kal said:
~ he believes that the vaccine is the Mark of the Beast. he takes this stance based on his belief that the use of luciferase in the vaccine is what will trigger the mark once the use 5G is implemented.

"luciferase was used during the development of the vaccine but it is not one of the ingredients in the vaccine"

1. Rev 13 makes no reference to vaccines or luciferase. It speaks only of the name of the beast and informs us that the number of that name is 666. It is 'the number of a man' according to Rev 13 --- not the number of a protein or the number of an enzyme or ... a vaccine.

Super Kal said:
I'll just come out and say it at the beginning so everyone knows how i view this, I'm personally a premillennial, futurist, post-trib. i understand there are others who would disagree with me, and im perfectly fine with that,

post-trib, pre-mill , historicist here. I view Rev 19, Matt 24:29-13, 1 Thess 4:13-18 , 2 Thess 1, 2 Thess 1:1-3 - as all describing the same event. The appearing of Christ who then takes the saints to heaven in the rapture as described in John 14:1-3 and Matt 24 verses listed above.

But I don't agree with anything that Bill MacGregor teaches from what I read of your OP.

Helpful rules of structure and order in Bible interpretation when it comes to prophecy --

1. All Bible timelines are contiguous timelines - there are no exceptions to this rule.
2. All apocalyptic timelines us day for a year - when days, weeks, months are used in that symbolic timeline.

Walk together · Aug 9, 2022

It sounds like another conspiracy theory not worth the time of day. We have been having vaccines for over 100 years and 5G is just a part of frequency that already exists.

ByTheSpirit · Aug 9, 2022

I got two points into this and had to check and see if this was the conspiracy forum.

Sheila Davis · Aug 9, 2022

Super Kal said:
so, I'll just come out and say it at the beginning so everyone knows how i view this, I'm personally a premillennial, futurist, post-trib. i understand there are others who would disagree with me, and im perfectly fine with that, that's why i dont want to limit who can respond. i would like to hear everyone's thoughts and opinions based on what they have searched and studied

in my search and study of eschatology, i've come across an individual named Pastor Bill MacGregor. now he himself is a post trib, pre wrath, however he does have some peculiar beliefs:

~ he believes that we are in Daniel's 70th week. He equates this due to his belief that the signing of the Abraham Accords was the start of Daniel's 70th week. He also thinks the Jared Kushner is the Antichrist, because it was Kushner who instigated the Abraham Accords.

~ he believes that the vaccine is the Mark of the Beast. he takes this stance based on his belief that the use of luciferase in the vaccine is what will trigger the mark once the use 5G is implemented.

~ he believes that the third seal is currently being opened with Biden and his inflation, while the first seal was Kushner promoting peace with the Abraham Accords, and the second seal being the vaccine.

~ because of his beliefs regarding Daniel's 70th week and the Antichrist, he has recently stated that he has been able to calculate when the rapture would take place: roughly 13 months from, IIRC, September of 2023. He has stated the exact date in some of his sermons, which are found exclusively on [bless and do not curse][bless and do not curse][bless and do not curse][bless and do not curse][bless and do not curse]ute

~ in addition to the above, he has also stated that New York is the harlot of Babylon, New York will be destroyed due to a tsunami created by a nuclear explosion, there are 144,000 frozen Jews in Antarctica and will be unfrozen soon to spread the Gospel (i kid you not)

i would love to hear everyone's thought and opinions based on scriptures as to why this pastor may be right or wrong

I don't agree with anything that he has said.

Jared Kushner be in the Antichrist - something to think about but I don't think so.

Vaccine the mark of the beast - no. The mark of the beast will be initiated for identification purposes to be able to buy, sell, trade, to basically live in the new form of governmental control, after the rise of the beast and the antichrist. Most likely be mandatory for everybody, made into law. Good reasons will be given, for instance no more currency, will lower crime, scan and go for medical purposes, financial purposes, employment purposes, and purchase purposes etc.

There are many who believe in pre-tribulation rapture, I am not one. My understanding of scripture is 1 Corinthians 15:52 states in a moment, in the twinkling of an eye, "at the last trump" _ "for the trumpet will sound" _ and the dead shall be raised incorruptible and we shall be changed. (At the last trumpet God's kingdom and judgement is here - all simultaneously occurring in an instant)
In Revelations 11:15 when the 7th trumpet sounds _ and the seventh angel sounded; and there were great voices in heaven, saying, the kingdoms of this world are become the kingdoms of our lord, and of his Christ; and he shall reign forever and ever.
verse 18 and the nations were angry, and I wrath is come, and the time of the dead, that they should be judged, and that thou should reward unto thy servants the prophets, and to the saints, and them that fear thy name, small and great; and should destroy them which destroy the Earth.

Biden is, so I've read, thinking of digital currency. The Pope is trying to initiate a one world currency.

Most teach that the first seal is the revealing of the Antichrist - if that be true none of the seals have been opened thus far.

Everything else he said - I am at a loss.

Dave Watchman · Aug 9, 2022

Super Kal said:
he believes that we are in Daniel's 70th week.

I believe that I know we are.

100%

A bit more than half ways through.

Super Kal said:
He equates this due to his belief that the signing of the Abraham Accords was the start of Daniel's 70th week.

It's interesting. I had to just now google it. August 13 is my birthday.

Super Kal said:
He also thinks the Jared Kushner is the Antichrist, because it was Kushner who instigated the Abraham Accords.

Kushner is not the Antichrist.

I joke around with him sometimes and his 666 Fifth Avenue deal.

Super Kal said:
he believes that the vaccine is the Mark of the Beast. he takes this stance based on his belief that the use of luciferase in the vaccine is what will trigger the mark once the use 5G is implemented.

I say no. But it's in the ballpark. I think it depends on the motive for taking the vaccine. Not everyone that got vaccinated took the mark of the beast, even though grievous and painful sores have broken out on the men who have taken the mark and worship the image of the beast.

Super Kal said:
he believes that the third seal

The third seal was a long time ago and was a good thing to do with Jesus.

Super Kal said:
because of his beliefs regarding Daniel's 70th week and the Antichrist, he has recently stated that he has been able to calculate when the rapture would take place: roughly 13 months from, IIRC, September of 2023.

The reason for my interest here is that his numbers are strangely close to mine, I might even say sooner. Or just be ready sooner than latter.

I did a quick google on him but can't find much yet.

I wish I could find a youtube on him. Sometimes it's helpful to get a look at the guy. Like what Jesus said about the eyes are the windows to the soul.

Can't resist:

"The eye is the lamp of the body. If your eyes are healthy, your whole body will be full of light. But if your eyes are unhealthy, your whole body will be full of darkness.

I read he's a "supporter" of Pastor Steven Anderson.

He sounds like my kind of guy.

But my reasoning, my evidence, is much more solid than his.

And now it's giving me goosebumps because we don't have long to go to see who's right.

Thanks for the post.

BPPLEE · Aug 9, 2022

Super Kal said:
so, I'll just come out and say it at the beginning so everyone knows how i view this, I'm personally a premillennial, futurist, post-trib. i understand there are others who would disagree with me, and im perfectly fine with that, that's why i dont want to limit who can respond. i would like to hear everyone's thoughts and opinions based on what they have searched and studied

in my search and study of eschatology, i've come across an individual named Pastor Bill MacGregor. now he himself is a post trib, pre wrath, however he does have some peculiar beliefs:

~ he believes that we are in Daniel's 70th week. He equates this due to his belief that the signing of the Abraham Accords was the start of Daniel's 70th week. He also thinks the Jared Kushner is the Antichrist, because it was Kushner who instigated the Abraham Accords.

~ he believes that the vaccine is the Mark of the Beast. he takes this stance based on his belief that the use of luciferase in the vaccine is what will trigger the mark once the use 5G is implemented.

~ he believes that the third seal is currently being opened with Biden and his inflation, while the first seal was Kushner promoting peace with the Abraham Accords, and the second seal being the vaccine.

~ because of his beliefs regarding Daniel's 70th week and the Antichrist, he has recently stated that he has been able to calculate when the rapture would take place: roughly 13 months from, IIRC, September of 2023. He has stated the exact date in some of his sermons, which are found exclusively on [bless and do not curse][bless and do not curse][bless and do not curse][bless and do not curse][bless and do not curse]ute

~ in addition to the above, he has also stated that New York is the harlot of Babylon, New York will be destroyed due to a tsunami created by a nuclear explosion, there are 144,000 frozen Jews in Antarctica and will be unfrozen soon to spread the Gospel (i kid you not)

i would love to hear everyone's thought and opinions based on scriptures as to why this pastor may be right or wrong

Please. You can't be serious.

Juan777 · Aug 9, 2022

I've been posting allot about Daniel's 70 weeks on here and its people like him that undermine things of what is uniquely shows the prophecies in the Bible are historically accurate on how they are fulfilled. There is a precise sequence of events from the 1st week to the 69th week with the 70th week remaining unfulfilled (which is supposed to be that 7 year Tribulation).

I disagree categorically with everything that guy has said as I go with a more literal interpretation of scripture that is backed by facts and history not snake-oil salesmanship

Super Kal · Aug 9, 2022

been following this pastor for quite a few months mow...

now, i said I'm following him, but i want to stress something, just because im following him doesn't necessarily mean I'm in agreement with everything he says...

concerning the points he made:

this individual caught my attention because of his stance about the Antichrist. I admit, i think the Abraham Accords plays a major part in the end times. while he believes its signing was the start of Daniel's 70th Week, I, on the other hand, disagree with that notion. i do think, however, these accords is that covenant mentioned in Daniel 9:27, but in its infancy form. From what i have read and researched, from the premillennial perspective, the beginning of Daniel's 70th week begins when the Antichrist makes some kind of treaty between Israel and the surrounding nations that would last for seven years, and would allow the Jews to build a temple where the original temple once stood.
from my own reading and study of the early church, i know Irenaeus believed that the Antichrist would be a Jew, from the Tribe of Dan, and that scriptures call him an Assyrian.
my own personal perspective is that Jared Kushner *might* be the Antichrist... i say this because Kushner is of Jewish descent, and he was the sole instigator behind the Abraham Accords... i wont say he outright is the Antichrist, because i dont have that kind of knowledge... but he is a possible candidate

i know that in parallel those Accords, Trump wanted to include a dividing of the land between Israel and the Palestinians, however both Netanyahu and Kushner advised against it. i understand that dispensationalists (and maybe non dispensationalists) would comment against this, quoting either Isaiah or Genesis 13

second point
i dont think the vaccine is the mark. i do believe it is a step towards that, though... i believe that any kind of technology that furthers sole reliance on biometrics for everything medical and/or financial is a precursor

third point
im actually in agreement with some of this. while i dont believe Kushner was the first seal, i actually do wholly believe that Obama was the fulfillment of the first seal, Trump and the virus/vaccine was the fulfillment of the second seal, ad Biden is the fulfillment of the third seal... i understand that many of those in the futurist perspective believe that the first seal is the beginning of Daniel's 70th Week, i disagree with that perspective. i dont see anything in the scriptures that directly correlate the first seal with the beginning of the last 7 years. i can understand how one "can" come to that interpretation, but scripture never says the first seal starts the great tribulation. it is possible that the Fifth Seal would mark the beginning of the middle half of the tribulation since the Fifth Seal describes martyrdom and persecution, but i see now logic in having any of these seals being the marker for the beginning of the last 7 years... we already have a marker for that, i believe, in Daniel 9:27

concerning his view on the rapture, as post trib, i do believe we will be able to come to a point to where we will be able to do this, but i dont think we're there yet, so i think him setting a date is very much wrong.

and as far as the 144,000 goes, when he started to talk about this, even i had trouble listening to it. my take on the 144,000 is figurative and not literal. i personally think it is figurative for the church.

i also have a question for everyone who reads this, regardless of your stance on the rapture...
picture yourself in the first half of Daniel's 70th week. you have this knowledge and information about what will transpire during the next 4-6 years. would you give this information freely, wanting people to be saved, or, would you demand those who want to learn meet certain criteria before you share this knowledge?

the reason i ask this is just this last Sunday, Bill MacGregor wanted to make his bit chute channel locked with a password so that only people he deems worthy can access his information (this also has to do with a book he is selling). He is not willing to sell his book for any amount of money unless, his words:
1.) went to an independent Baptist Church he personally approves of
2.) a written note from the pastor saying they are being diligent in attending the services

now, this is a red flag to me, because Matthew 10:8 says
"Heal the sick, cleanse the lepers, raise the dead, cast out demons. Freely you have received, freely give."

now i understand the context, but i would also understand that anything related to the return of Jesus should also be freely given as well, after all, the angel told John to not seal up the writings of the book, and us with-holding this kind of information to the lost can be seen as us proverbially sealing up the book.

i agree with most of you that some of the things he teaches is a bit of quackery (there are some other things he teaches in regards to eschatology that seem a bit odd, like his stance of Revelation 12:1-7), however the return of our Lord is not something that I see as trivial or mundane, and of course, i dont think any of you think that either... while i disagree with him on the rapture and a few other things, and i do think he is going to be in for a shocking discovery that his rapture date will come and go, and nothing will happen, i do think that reviewing individuals like this helps us be more mindful of the scriptures, and helps us be more aware of what the scriptures say about His return.

im hoping what i am saying is understandable to those of you who read it. if it is not, i humly apologize, it is not my desire to make things confusing, i have ADHD, and sometimes more often than not, my mind goes a million miles faster than what i can type, say, or express, and if you need help with what i am trying to convey, i will do my best to slow down my brain and try to rearticulate whatever it was that created the confusion

Super Kal · Aug 9, 2022

BPPLEE said:
Please. You can't be serious.

lol, well, for the record, i never said i agreed with the guy... i actually would agree with you on some levels with this, and i think he will have figurative egg on his face when that rapture date comes and goes...

and while i disagree with him about New York, i will give him the slightest amount of credit about him warning to get out of NY because of a possible nuclear attack. he has been preaching on this for quite some time now, and only recently did the state release a PSA about the possibility of NY being hit by a nuclear explosion.

again, not saying he's a prophet or anything like that... but even i must admit that did catch my attention a little bit.

Dave Watchman · Aug 9, 2022

Super Kal said:
and as far as the 144,000 goes, when he started to talk about this, even i had trouble listening to it. my take on the 144,000 is figurative and not literal. i personally think it is figurative for the church.

Agreed. This amounts to the judgment of the living, prior to Christs' arrival. Everyone alive needs to be either sealed with the seal of God, or take the mark of the beast. 144,000 = ALL the tribes of Israel. 100% of God's people. These are not the same 12 tribes of Moses' day.

Super Kal said:
i also have a question for everyone who reads this, regardless of your stance on the rapture...
picture yourself in the first half of Daniel's 70th week. you have this knowledge and information about what will transpire during the next 4-6 years. would you give this information freely, wanting people to be saved, or, would you demand those who want to learn meet certain criteria before you share this knowledge?

No.

This is God's domain.

Not everyone wants to know.

Some people are troubled by it.

It's enough for me just to say what I say.

The time for putting the empirical on display is past.

God will have everyone where they're supposed to be.

The traditional Rapture people won't be disappointed.

And when it begins, I think it will happen very fast.

Like lightning from the East.

Be silent before the Lord,

"Be silent, all flesh, before the LORD,
for He is aroused from His holy habitation!”

RandyPNW · Aug 9, 2022

Super Kal said:
so, I'll just come out and say it at the beginning so everyone knows how i view this, I'm personally a premillennial, futurist, post-trib. i understand there are others who would disagree with me, and im perfectly fine with that, that's why i dont want to limit who can respond. i would like to hear everyone's thoughts and opinions based on what they have searched and studied

in my search and study of eschatology, i've come across an individual named Pastor Bill MacGregor. now he himself is a post trib, pre wrath, however he does have some peculiar beliefs:

~ he believes that we are in Daniel's 70th week. He equates this due to his belief that the signing of the Abraham Accords was the start of Daniel's 70th week. He also thinks the Jared Kushner is the Antichrist, because it was Kushner who instigated the Abraham Accords.

~ he believes that the vaccine is the Mark of the Beast. he takes this stance based on his belief that the use of luciferase in the vaccine is what will trigger the mark once the use 5G is implemented.

~ he believes that the third seal is currently being opened with Biden and his inflation, while the first seal was Kushner promoting peace with the Abraham Accords, and the second seal being the vaccine.

~ because of his beliefs regarding Daniel's 70th week and the Antichrist, he has recently stated that he has been able to calculate when the rapture would take place: roughly 13 months from, IIRC, September of 2023. He has stated the exact date in some of his sermons, which are found exclusively on bit chute

~ in addition to the above, he has also stated that New York is the harlot of Babylon, New York will be destroyed due to a tsunami created by a nuclear explosion, there are 144,000 frozen Jews in Antarctica and will be unfrozen soon to spread the Gospel (i kid you not)

i would love to hear everyone's thought and opinions based on scriptures as to why this pastor may be right or wrong

Hi SuperKal (Julie Andrews" song?): I share your Premill/Postrib views. However, this guy MacGregor is not somebody who I'd place any confidence in. No sooner does someone say something good than he says something bad. I'm glad he's Premill/Postrib, but I'm not happy he's giving the position a bad name.

Doing this kind of "X person is the Antichrist" gives Bible Prophecy a black eye. Kirshner is *not* the Antichrist--I know that for sure. He is a lost Jew who I believe God loves. I certainly wouldn't agree with everything he says and does, but I like his support of Israel.

Predicting the date of prophetic events is also crazy. Again, it gives Bible Prophecy a black eye. We are told not to set dates, which are in the hands of God. God would have us to focus on our current calling, instead of making the future a game of guessing. I can assure you MacGregors dates are wrong!

We are not in the 70th Week. I used to be strongly in favor of a future assignment of Daniel's 70th Week--not so any longer. It never did make sense to separate the 70th Week from the previous 69 Weeks. That would create an entirely different time period--not 70 Weeks of years, but an indeterminate set of years! That makes a joke out of God giving us a specific set of years at all!

But the 70th Weeks was designed to be the fulfillment of the 6 things that Messiah would prepare for and accomplish, namely the redemption of Israel from sin, and the calling into account of Israel for all their sins. All that was fulfilled in the generation of Messiah. Jesus died for the sins of Israel and for the sins of the whole world. And in his generation, Israel was comprehensively judged for all of their sins, leading to an age-long Diaspora, the Great Tribulation of the NT Age, designed specifically for Israel (Luk 21).

The 70th Week was actually fulfilled in a half week, in which Jesus was crucified. The rest of the prophecy was fulfilled in the devastating tribulation which began in 70 AD and continues to the present age. Luke identifies it as a Jewish "punishment."

BobRyan · Aug 9, 2022

Super Kal said:
this individual caught my attention because of his stance about the Antichrist. I admit, i think the Abraham Accords plays a major part in the end times. while he believes its signing was the start of Daniel's 70th Week, I, on the other hand, disagree with that notion. i do think, however, these accords is that covenant mentioned in Daniel 9:27, but in its infancy form. From what i have read and researched, from the premillennial perspective, the beginning of Daniel's 70th week begins when the Antichrist makes some kind of treaty between Israel and the surrounding nations

1. Christ will rapture the church pre-mill post-trib post-wrath in Rev 19 as He promised in Matt 24 "immediately after the tribulation" of the Rev 16 plagues. And then as Rev 19 points out "The rest were killed".

2. the problem in your statement above is that "ALL Bible timelines are contiguous" instead of each one being sliced up and gaps of time inserted into them of undefined length. This includes the 70 weeks of years in Dan 9. That is one contiguous 490 day-for-year timeline that predicts the first coming of Christ , his ministry, his death on the cross and the covenant period with Israel.

That same rule holds for the 1260 day-for-year timeline in Dan 7. Rev 11, Rev 12, Rev 13.

That same rule holds for the 2300 day-for-year timeline in Dan 8.

There is no "come up with a new way to render and splice timelines with every chapter" model in the Bible.

Super Kal · Aug 9, 2022

Dave Watchman said:
I did a quick google on him but can't find much yet.

I wish I could find a youtube on him. Sometimes it's helpful to get a look at the guy. Like what Jesus said about the eyes are the windows to the soul.

Can't resist:

"The eye is the lamp of the body. If your eyes are healthy, your whole body will be full of light. But if your eyes are unhealthy, your whole body will be full of darkness.

he used to have a Youtube page, however he was banned from Youtube for going against their "community standards". for the time being he has a bit chute page under the channel billmacgregor

as far as steven anderson is concerned, that's for another place and time.

Super Kal · Aug 9, 2022

BobRyan said:
2. the problem in your statement above is that "ALL Bible timelines are contiguous" instead of each one being sliced up and gaps of time inserted into them of undefined length. This includes the 70 weeks of years in Dan 9. That is one contiguous 490 day-for-year timeline that predicts the first coming of Christ , his ministry, his death on the cross and the covenant period with Israel.

That same rule holds for the 1260 day-for-year timeline in Dan 7. Rev 11, Rev 12, Rev 13.

That same rule holds for the 2300 day-for-year timeline in Dan 8.

There is no "come up with a new way to render and splice timelines with every chapter" model in the Bible.

even though i disagree with the historicism you propose, thank you for your response. for the record, i actually use to hold to historicism, and i still listen to Pastor John Roller from the ACGC (Advent Christian General Conference)... he's actually helped me in my study of the early church, and their view of the "soul"

BobRyan · Aug 9, 2022

Super Kal said:
even though i disagree with the historicism you propose, thank you for your response. for the record, i actually use to hold to historicism, and i still listen to Pastor John Roller from the ACGC (Advent Christian General Conference)... he's actually helped me in my study of the early church, and their view of the "soul"

On the contrary - thank you -- for bringing up the "Advent Christian General Conference". That is a group I am not very familiar with. I suspect that their views are a lot closer to the way William Miller would have defined his term "Second coming", or "second advent" than what Seventh-day Adventists now believe, since we have the rapture so strongly affirmed as the event in Rev 19 that accompanies the Rev 19 "and the rest were killed" scenario leaving only the "desolate earth" of Jer 4:23-26 and 2 Thess 1.

As you may know - the Seventh-day Adventist church adopted a number of Bible affirmations after that - that differed with Miller and then went on to become what ChristianityToday called the "fifth largest Christian denomination in the world" in its Jan/Feb 2015 article on Ben Carson and Seventh-day Adventists.

RandyPNW · Aug 9, 2022

Super Kal said:
From what i have read and researched, from the premillennial perspective, the beginning of Daniel's 70th week begins when the Antichrist makes some kind of treaty between Israel and the surrounding nations that would last for seven years, and would allow the Jews to build a temple where the original temple once stood.

You should research the Church Fathers on this. Only a few of them might believe that. The vast majority believed that the 70th Week was fulfilled in the generation of Jesus, in particular with Christ's death and with the destruction of Jerusalem and the temple in 70 AD by the Romans.

The "research" you must've engaged in is Premill in more recent times, ie "popular eschatology." The Dispensationalists are big on this. Happily, you're not a part of that!

Jerryhuerta · Aug 9, 2022

Super Kal said:
so, I'll just come out and say it at the beginning so everyone knows how i view this, I'm personally a premillennial, futurist, post-trib. i understand there are others who would disagree with me, and im perfectly fine with that, that's why i dont want to limit who can respond. i would like to hear everyone's thoughts and opinions based on what they have searched and studied

in my search and study of eschatology, i've come across an individual named Pastor Bill MacGregor. now he himself is a post trib, pre wrath, however he does have some peculiar beliefs:

~ he believes that we are in Daniel's 70th week. He equates this due to his belief that the signing of the Abraham Accords was the start of Daniel's 70th week. He also thinks the Jared Kushner is the Antichrist, because it was Kushner who instigated the Abraham Accords.

~ he believes that the vaccine is the Mark of the Beast. he takes this stance based on his belief that the use of luciferase in the vaccine is what will trigger the mark once the use 5G is implemented.

~ he believes that the third seal is currently being opened with Biden and his inflation, while the first seal was Kushner promoting peace with the Abraham Accords, and the second seal being the vaccine.

~ because of his beliefs regarding Daniel's 70th week and the Antichrist, he has recently stated that he has been able to calculate when the rapture would take place: roughly 13 months from, IIRC, September of 2023. He has stated the exact date in some of his sermons, which are found exclusively on bit chute

~ in addition to the above, he has also stated that New York is the harlot of Babylon, New York will be destroyed due to a tsunami created by a nuclear explosion, there are 144,000 frozen Jews in Antarctica and will be unfrozen soon to spread the Gospel (i kid you not)

i would love to hear everyone's thought and opinions based on scriptures as to why this pastor may be right or wrong

2 Timothy 4:3 For the time will come when they will not endure sound doctrine; but after their own lusts shall they heap to themselves teachers, having itching ears;
4 And they shall turn away their ears from the truth, and shall be turned unto fables.

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