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I have run across this non-Christian group a few times (Urantia Book believers), and am looking for a way to do outreach to them.

I am looking for differences between Uriantia and Christianity and found a number of those differences on Wikipedia.

One of those differences is that they reject the Atonement of Jesus on the cross for the sins of the world. But I don't know exactly how they word that statement. Does anyone have a quote or reference for it -- ??
 
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I have run across this non-Christian group a few times (Urantia Book believers), and am looking for a way to do outreach to them.

I am looking for differences between Uriantia and Christianity and found a number of those differences on Wikipedia.

One of those differences is that they reject the Atonement of Jesus on the cross for the sins of the world. But I don't know exactly how they word that statement. Does anyone have a quote or reference for it -- ??

I will look into this for you. I am also sending you a PM, but I will post the main data here.
 
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I have run across this non-Christian group a few times (Urantia Book believers), and am looking for a way to do outreach to them.

I am looking for differences between Uriantia and Christianity and found a number of those differences on Wikipedia.

One of those differences is that they reject the Atonement of Jesus on the cross for the sins of the world. But I don't know exactly how they word that statement. Does anyone have a quote or reference for it -- ??

William Samuel Sadler (June 24, 1875 – April 26, 1969) was an American surgeon, self-trained psychiatrist, and author who helped publish The Urantia Book. The book is said to have resulted from Sadler's relationship with a man through whom he believed celestial beings spoke at night. It drew a following of people who studied its teachings.

William S. Sadler - Wikipedia

perhaps some useful info
 
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William Samuel Sadler (June 24, 1875 – April 26, 1969) was an American surgeon, self-trained psychiatrist, and author who helped publish The Urantia Book. The book is said to have resulted from Sadler's relationship with a man through whom he believed celestial beings spoke at night. It drew a following of people who studied its teachings.

William S. Sadler - Wikipedia

perhaps some useful info


Thanks. That is also what I have been seeing but I was looking for their own "Urantia" teaching on atonement sin and salvation.

I think I finally found it. It reads like an atheist trying to explain how Christian concepts of sin , atonement and salvation "evolved" out of primordial soup.

Paper 89 - Sin, Sacrifice and Atonement
 
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One of those differences is that they reject the Atonement of Jesus on the cross for the sins of the world. But I don't know exactly how they word that statement. Does anyone have a quote or reference for it -- ??
yes, i know the direct reference, they are two sections, in part iv of 4 parts of the URANTIA book, and that part iv is: 'The life and teachings of JESUS'.

URANTIA gives an account of all of the 36 years of JESUS' life, who was born 7 bC era.

i believed in JESUS before finding The URANTIA Papers back in 2002, and it is L O V E L Y . . .

my name is luis marco, 38, born and living in mexico city.

indited (not dictated) by our heavenly, invisible fellow beings, URANTIA says this about the unreal atonement of JESUS:
 
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Paper 188 - The Time of the Tomb

4. Meaning of the Death on the Cross
188:4.1 (2016.6) Although Jesus did not die this death on the cross to atone for the racial guilt of mortal man nor to provide some sort of effective approach to an otherwise offended and unforgiving God; even though the Son of Man did not offer himself as a sacrifice to appease the wrath of God and to open the way for sinful man to obtain salvation; notwithstanding that these ideas of atonement and propitiation are erroneous, nonetheless, there are significances attached to this death of Jesus on the cross which should not be overlooked. It is a fact that Urantia has become known among other neighboring inhabited planets as the “World of the Cross.”

188:4.2 (2016.7) Jesus desired to live a full mortal life in the flesh on Urantia. Death is, ordinarily, a part of life. Death is the last act in the mortal drama. In your well-meant efforts to escape the superstitious errors of the false interpretation of the meaning of the death on the cross, you should be careful not to make the great mistake of failing to perceive the true significance and the genuine import of the Master’s death.

188:4.3 (2016.8) Mortal man was never the property of the archdeceivers. Jesus did not die to ransom man from the clutch of the apostate rulers and fallen princes of the spheres. The Father in heaven never conceived of such crass injustice as damning a mortal soul because of the evil-doing of his ancestors. Neither was the Master’s death on the cross a sacrifice which consisted in an effort to pay God a debt which the race of mankind had come to owe him.

188:4.4 (2016.9) Before Jesus lived on earth, you might possibly have been justified in believing in such a God, but not since the Master lived and died among your fellow mortals. Moses taught the dignity and justice of a Creator God; but Jesus portrayed the love and mercy of a heavenly Father.

188:4.5 (2016.10) The animal nature—the tendency toward evil-doing—may be hereditary, but sin is not transmitted from parent to child. Sin is the act of conscious and deliberate rebellion against the Father’s will and the Sons’ laws by an individual will creature.

188:4.6 (2017.1) Jesus lived and died for a whole universe, not just for the races of this one world. While the mortals of the realms had salvation even before Jesus lived and died on Urantia, it is nevertheless a fact that his bestowal on this world greatly illuminated the way of salvation; his death did much to make forever plain the certainty of mortal survival after death in the flesh.

188:4.7 (2017.2) Though it is hardly proper to speak of Jesus as a sacrificer, a ransomer, or a redeemer, it is wholly correct to refer to him as a savior. He forever made the way of salvation (survival) more clear and certain; he did better and more surely show the way of salvation for all the mortals of all the worlds of the universe of Nebadon.

188:4.8 (2017.3) When once you grasp the idea of God as a true and loving Father, the only concept which Jesus ever taught, you must forthwith, in all consistency, utterly abandon all those primitive notions about God as an offended monarch, a stern and all-powerful ruler whose chief delight is to detect his subjects in wrongdoing and to see that they are adequately punished, unless some being almost equal to himself should volunteer to suffer for them, to die as a substitute and in their stead. The whole idea of ransom and atonement is incompatible with the concept of God as it was taught and exemplified by Jesus of Nazareth. The infinite love of God is not secondary to anything in the divine nature.

188:4.9 (2017.4) All this concept of atonement and sacrificial salvation is rooted and grounded in selfishness. Jesus taught that service to one’s fellows is the highest concept of the brotherhood of spirit believers. Salvation should be taken for granted by those who believe in the fatherhood of God. The believer’s chief concern should not be the selfish desire for personal salvation but rather the unselfish urge to love and, therefore, serve one’s fellows even as Jesus loved and served mortal men.

188:4.10 (2017.5) Neither do genuine believers trouble themselves so much about the future punishment of sin. The real believer is only concerned about present separation from God. True, wise fathers may chasten their sons, but they do all this in love and for corrective purposes. They do not punish in anger, neither do they chastise in retribution.

188:4.11 (2017.6) Even if God were the stern and legal monarch of a universe in which justice ruled supreme, he certainly would not be satisfied with the childish scheme of substituting an innocent sufferer for a guilty offender.

188:4.12 (2017.7) The great thing about the death of Jesus, as it is related to the enrichment of human experience and the enlargement of the way of salvation, is not the fact of his death but rather the superb manner and the matchless spirit in which he met death.

188:4.13 (2017.8) This entire idea of the ransom of the atonement places salvation upon a plane of unreality; such a concept is purely philosophic. Human salvation is real; it is based on two realities which may be grasped by the creature’s faith and thereby become incorporated into individual human experience: the fact of the fatherhood of God and its correlated truth, the brotherhood of man. It is true, after all, that you are to be “forgiven your debts, even as you forgive your debtors.”

5. Lessons from the Cross
188:5.1 (2017.9) The cross of Jesus portrays the full measure of the supreme devotion of the true shepherd for even the unworthy members of his flock. It forever places all relations between God and man upon the family basis. God is the Father; man is his son. Love, the love of a father for his son, becomes the central truth in the universe relations of Creator and creature—not the justice of a king which seeks satisfaction in the sufferings and punishment of the evil-doing subject.

188:5.2 (2018.1) The cross forever shows that the attitude of Jesus toward sinners was neither condemnation nor condonation, but rather eternal and loving salvation. Jesus is truly a savior in the sense that his life and death do win men over to goodness and righteous survival. Jesus loves men so much that his love awakens the response of love in the human heart. Love is truly contagious and eternally creative. Jesus’ death on the cross exemplifies a love which is sufficiently strong and divine to forgive sin and swallow up all evil-doing. Jesus disclosed to this world a higher quality of righteousness than justice—mere technical right and wrong. Divine love does not merely forgive wrongs; it absorbs and actually destroys them. The forgiveness of love utterly transcends the forgiveness of mercy. Mercy sets the guilt of evil-doing to one side; but love destroys forever the sin and all weakness resulting therefrom. Jesus brought a new method of living to Urantia. He taught us not to resist evil but to find through him a goodness which effectually destroys evil. The forgiveness of Jesus is not condonation; it is salvation from condemnation. Salvation does not slight wrongs; it makes them right. True love does not compromise nor condone hate; it destroys it. The love of Jesus is never satisfied with mere forgiveness. The Master’s love implies rehabilitation, eternal survival. It is altogether proper to speak of salvation as redemption if you mean this eternal rehabilitation.

188:5.3 (2018.2) Jesus, by the power of his personal love for men, could break the hold of sin and evil. He thereby set men free to choose better ways of living. Jesus portrayed a deliverance from the past which in itself promised a triumph for the future. Forgiveness thus provided salvation. The beauty of divine love, once fully admitted to the human heart, forever destroys the charm of sin and the power of evil.

188:5.4 (2018.3) The sufferings of Jesus were not confined to the crucifixion. In reality, Jesus of Nazareth spent upward of twenty-five years on the cross of a real and intense mortal existence. The real value of the cross consists in the fact that it was the supreme and final expression of his love, the completed revelation of his mercy.

188:5.5 (2018.4) On millions of inhabited worlds, tens of trillions of evolving creatures who may have been tempted to give up the moral struggle and abandon the good fight of faith, have taken one more look at Jesus on the cross and then have forged on ahead, inspired by the sight of God’s laying down his incarnate life in devotion to the unselfish service of man.

188:5.6 (2018.5) The triumph of the death on the cross is all summed up in the spirit of Jesus’ attitude toward those who assailed him. He made the cross an eternal symbol of the triumph of love over hate and the victory of truth over evil when he prayed, “Father, forgive them, for they know not what they do.” That devotion of love was contagious throughout a vast universe; the disciples caught it from their Master. The very first teacher of his gospel who was called upon to lay down his life in this service, said, as they stoned him to death, “Lay not this sin to their charge.”

188:5.7 (2018.6) The cross makes a supreme appeal to the best in man because it discloses one who was willing to lay down his life in the service of his fellow men. Greater love no man can have than this: that he would be willing to lay down his life for his friends—and Jesus had such a love that he was willing to lay down his life for his enemies, a love greater than any which had hitherto been known on earth.

188:5.8 (2019.1) On other worlds, as well as on Urantia, this sublime spectacle of the death of the human Jesus on the cross of Golgotha has stirred the emotions of mortals, while it has aroused the highest devotion of the angels.

188:5.9 (2019.2) The cross is that high symbol of sacred service, the devotion of one’s life to the welfare and salvation of one’s fellows. The cross is not the symbol of the sacrifice of the innocent Son of God in the place of guilty sinners and in order to appease the wrath of an offended God, but it does stand forever, on earth and throughout a vast universe, as a sacred symbol of the good bestowing themselves upon the evil and thereby saving them by this very devotion of love. The cross does stand as the token of the highest form of unselfish service, the supreme devotion of the full bestowal of a righteous life in the service of wholehearted ministry, even in death, the death of the cross. And the very sight of this great symbol of the bestowal life of Jesus truly inspires all of us to want to go and do likewise.

188:5.10 (2019.3) When thinking men and women look upon Jesus as he offers up his life on the cross, they will hardly again permit themselves to complain at even the severest hardships of life, much less at petty harassments and their many purely fictitious grievances. His life was so glorious and his death so triumphant that we are all enticed to a willingness to share both. There is true drawing power in the whole bestowal of Michael, from the days of his youth to this overwhelming spectacle of his death on the cross.

188:5.11 (2019.4) Make sure, then, that when you view the cross as a revelation of God, you do not look with the eyes of the primitive man nor with the viewpoint of the later barbarian, both of whom regarded God as a relentless Sovereign of stern justice and rigid law-enforcement. Rather, make sure that you see in the cross the final manifestation of the love and devotion of Jesus to his life mission of bestowal upon the mortal races of his vast universe. See in the death of the Son of Man the climax of the unfolding of the Father’s divine love for his sons of the mortal spheres. The cross thus portrays the devotion of willing affection and the bestowal of voluntary salvation upon those who are willing to receive such gifts and devotion. There was nothing in the cross which the Father required—only that which Jesus so willingly gave, and which he refused to avoid.

188:5.12 (2019.5) If man cannot otherwise appreciate Jesus and understand the meaning of his bestowal on earth, he can at least comprehend the fellowship of his mortal sufferings. No man can ever fear that the Creator does not know the nature or extent of his temporal afflictions.

188:5.13 (2019.6) We know that the death on the cross was not to effect man’s reconciliation to God but to stimulate man’s realization of the Father’s eternal love and his Son’s unending mercy, and to broadcast these universal truths to a whole universe.
 
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Thank you for your quotes (I note that the Urantia book was legally ruled to now be in public domain in the U.S. so I think you are fine).

That was the info I was looking for.

Question for you -- why did you drop The Bible and Christianity for Urantia? What was the compelling feature that resulted in your making that switch??
 
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Please, admins., allow me to edit my above second post, it's just that the text of the URANTIA book is already in the public domain in English.

Your second post still has the full text in it. just click in the quote box to see it.
 
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Is this conversation still going on?

I have stumbled across the Urantia Book and am (albeit very slowly) reading it.
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It rejects the Bible and the Bible account of the life and atonement of Christ so many do not considered Christian.

Other modern prophets have spoken and written a lot about the life and death of Christ without rejecting the Bible and the atonement of Christ - so this one seems to be far in the extreme.

For example -- here is a very large volume on the life of Christ with a distinctly Christian conclusion where many details are revealed including thoughts of those characters interacting in various scenes in the life of Christ.

The Desire of Ages
 
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It rejects the Bible and the Bible account of the life and atonement of Christ so many do not considered Christian.

Other modern prophets have spoken and written a lot about the life and death of Christ without rejecting the Bible and the atonement of Christ - so this one seems to be far in the extreme.

For example -- here is a very large volume on the life of Christ with a distinctly Christian conclusion where many details are revealed including thoughts of those characters interacting in various scenes in the life of Christ.

The Desire of Ages
Who is ellen g white?
 
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As per the post above -

Urantia has many errors in it -
but these are some of the worst examples that I found in that quote.

4. Meaning of the Death on the Cross
188:4.1 (2016.6) Although Jesus did not die this death on the cross to atone for the racial guilt of mortal man nor to provide some sort of effective approach to an otherwise offended and unforgiving God; even though the Son of Man did not offer himself as a sacrifice to appease the wrath of God and to open the way for sinful man to obtain salvation; notwithstanding that these ideas of atonement and propitiation are erroneous, nonetheless, there are significances attached to this death of Jesus on the cross which should not be overlooked. It is a fact that Urantia has become known among other neighboring inhabited planets as the “World of the Cross.”

...

188:4.6 (2017.1) Jesus lived and died for a whole universe, not just for the races of this one world. While the mortals of the realms had salvation even before Jesus lived and died on Urantia, it is nevertheless a fact that his bestowal on this world greatly illuminated the way of salvation; his death did much to make forever plain the certainty of mortal survival after death in the flesh.

188:4.7 (2017.2) Though it is hardly proper to speak of Jesus as a sacrificer, a ransomer, or a redeemer, it is wholly correct to refer to him as a savior. He forever made the way of salvation (survival) more clear and certain; he did better and more surely show the way of salvation for all the mortals of all the worlds of the universe of Nebadon.

188:4.8 (2017.3) When once you grasp the idea of God as a true and loving Father, the only concept which Jesus ever taught, you must forthwith, in all consistency, utterly abandon all those primitive notions about God as an offended monarch, a stern and all-powerful ruler whose chief delight is to detect his subjects in wrongdoing and to see that they are adequately punished, unless some being almost equal to himself should volunteer to suffer for them, to die as a substitute and in their stead. The whole idea of ransom and atonement is incompatible with the concept of God as it was taught and exemplified by Jesus of Nazareth. The infinite love of God is not secondary to anything in the divine nature.

188:4.9 (2017.4) All this concept of atonement and sacrificial salvation is rooted and grounded in selfishness. Jesus taught that service to one’s fellows is the highest concept of the brotherhood of spirit believers. Salvation should be taken for granted by those who believe in the fatherhood of God. The believer’s chief concern should not be the selfish desire for personal salvation but rather the unselfish urge to love and, therefore, serve one’s fellows even as Jesus loved and served mortal men.

188:4.10 (2017.5) Neither do genuine believers trouble themselves so much about the future punishment of sin. The real believer is only concerned about present separation from God. True, wise fathers may chasten their sons, but they do all this in love and for corrective purposes. They do not punish in anger, neither do they chastise in retribution.

188:4.11 (2017.6) Even if God were the stern and legal monarch of a universe in which justice ruled supreme, he certainly would not be satisfied with the childish scheme of substituting an innocent sufferer for a guilty offender.

188:4.12 (2017.7) The great thing about the death of Jesus, as it is related to the enrichment of human experience and the enlargement of the way of salvation, is not the fact of his death but rather the superb manner and the matchless spirit in which he met death.

188:4.13 (2017.8) This entire idea of the ransom of the atonement places salvation upon a plane of unreality; such a concept is purely philosophic. Human salvation is real; it is based on two realities which may be grasped by the creature’s faith and thereby become incorporated into individual human experience: the fact of the fatherhood of God and its correlated truth, the brotherhood of man. It is true, after all, that you are to be “forgiven your debts, even as you forgive your debtors.”
...
5. Lessons from the Cross
188:5.5 (2018.4) On millions of inhabited worlds, tens of trillions of evolving creatures who may have been tempted to give up the moral struggle and abandon the good fight of faith, have taken one more look at Jesus on the cross and then have forged on ahead, inspired by the sight of God’s laying down his incarnate life in devotion to the unselfish service of man.

188:5.6 (2018.5) The triumph of the death on the cross is all summed up in the spirit of Jesus’ attitude toward those who assailed him. He made the cross an eternal symbol of the triumph of love over hate and the victory of truth over evil when he prayed, “Father, forgive them, for they know not what they do.” That devotion of love was contagious throughout a vast universe; the disciples caught it from their Master. The very first teacher of his gospel who was called upon to lay down his life in this service, said, as they stoned him to death, “Lay not this sin to their charge.”

In such a huge pile of error we see the contrast with "Truth" as it is found in the Word of God - the Bible. How nice then that Jesus Himself is also called the "Word of God" while at the same time Jesus calls scripture "the Word of God" in Mark 7:6-13.

God so loved the World that HE GAVE HIS Son. John 6 - Jesus said He gave His life FOR the WORLD.
John 14:14 "God sent His Son to be the SAVIOR of the WORLD"

1 John 2:2 "He is the ATONING SACRIFICE for our sins and not for our sins only but for the sins of the WHOLE WORLD"

2 Cor 5 "He made Him who knew NO sin to become SIN on our behalf that we might become the righteousness of God IN HIM"

Is 53


4 Surely He has borne our griefs
And carried our sorrows;
Yet we esteemed Him stricken,
Smitten by God, and afflicted.
5 But He was wounded for our transgressions,
He was bruised for our iniquities;
The chastisement for our peace was upon Him,
And by His stripes we are healed.
6 All we like sheep have gone astray;
We have turned, every one, to his own way;
And the Lord has laid on Him the iniquity of us all.

7 He was oppressed and He was afflicted,
Yet He opened not His mouth;
He was led as a lamb to the slaughter,
And as a sheep before its shearers is silent,
So He opened not His mouth.
8 He was taken from prison and from judgment,
And who will declare His generation?
For He was cut off from the land of the living;
For the transgressions of My people He was stricken.
9 And they made His grave with the wicked—
But with the rich at His death,
Because He had done no violence,
Nor was any deceit in His mouth.

10 Yet it pleased the Lord to bruise Him;
He has put Him to grief.
When You make His soul an offering for sin,
He shall see His seed, He shall prolong His days,
And the pleasure of the Lord shall prosper in His hand.
11 He shall see the labor of His soul, and be satisfied.
By His knowledge My righteous Servant shall justify many,
For He shall bear their iniquities.
12 Therefore I will divide Him a portion with the great,
And He shall divide the spoil with the strong,
Because He poured out His soul unto death,
And He was numbered with the transgressors,
And He bore the sin of many,
And made intercession for the transgressors.
 
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Who is ellen g white?

She is a prophet that had inspired visions and dreams from 1844 to 1914 and wrote a great many books that are all free online. Her visions covered everything from the war in heaven before Earth was created -- all the way to the end of the world, millennium, New Earth etc. A vast amount of detail. And also a great deal on healthy living.

She is a great example of the "Alternative" to the messages in Urantia by a more modern day prophet that is fully Christian

Her visions started schools, colleges, hospitals, missionary outreach, and grew into what ChristianityToday called "the 5th largest Christian denomination in the world" (in its Jan/Feb 2015 Article on Seventh-day Adventists)
 
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She is a prophet that had inspired visions and dreams from 1844 to 1914 and wrote a great many books that are all free online. Her visions covered everything from the war in heaven before Earth was created -- all the way to the end of the world, millennium, New Earth etc. A vast amount of detail. And also a great deal on healthy living.

She is a great example of the "Alternative" to the messages in Urantia by a more modern day prophet that is fully Christian
You think she got it right?

Urantia was released 1935 i think?? 1934?? something like that.
 
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You think she got it right?

Urantia was released 1935 i think?? 1934?? something like that.

I do because her messages/predictions proved to be correct and her doctrine tested by the Bible as legit.
 
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I do because her messages/predictions proved to be correct and her doctrine tested by the Bible as legit.
To answer the question...
"One of those differences is that they reject the Atonement of Jesus on the cross for the sins of the world. But I don't know exactly how they word that statement. Does anyone have a quote or reference for it -- ??"
I did a quick search for "atonement" in the book and it's mentioned in Paper 149 and 188.
Paper 149 says...
"The Apostle Paul, in his efforts to bring the teachings of Jesus to the favorable notice of certain groups in his day, wrote many letters of instruction and admonition. Other teachers of Jesus’ gospel did likewise, but none of them realized that some of these writings would subsequently be brought together by those who would set them forth as the embodiment of the teachings of Jesus. And so, while so-called Christianity does contain more of the Master’s gospel than any other religion, it does also contain much that Jesus did not teach. Aside from the incorporation of many teachings from the Persian mysteries and much of the Greek philosophy into early Christianity, two great mistakes were made:

149:2.3 (1670.4) 1. The effort to connect the gospel teaching directly onto the Jewish theology, as illustrated by the Christian doctrines of the atonement—the teaching that Jesus was the sacrificed Son who would satisfy the Father’s stern justice and appease the divine wrath. These teachings originated in a praiseworthy effort to make the gospel of the kingdom more acceptable to disbelieving Jews. Though these efforts failed as far as winning the Jews was concerned, they did not fail to confuse and alienate many honest souls in all subsequent generations."

So Urantia does say that the Christian Atonement doctrine is the result of well meaning efforts to appeal to jewish thought at the time. I guess they wouldn't accept the christian thought without dealing with the sacrifice system.
 
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149:2.3 (1670.4) 1. The effort to connect the gospel teaching directly onto the Jewish theology, as illustrated by the Christian doctrines of the atonement—the teaching that Jesus was the sacrificed Son who would satisfy the Father’s stern justice and appease the divine wrath. These teachings originated in a praiseworthy effort to make the gospel of the kingdom more acceptable to disbelieving Jews. Though these efforts failed as far as winning the Jews was concerned, they did not fail to confuse and alienate many honest souls in all subsequent generations."

Thanks for sharing that and similar statements are quoted in this post #13

They get a lot of things wrong but also get some things right when it comes to God not being a cruel overbearing God demanding this or that of his Son or delighting in tormenting, or wishing the worst for his children etc.

What Urantia misses is the entire concept of justice and universal law and order. God solves the "sin problem" by both upholding the Law of the universe and also demonstrating himself to be a self-sacrificing God willing to pay the debt that others owe according to the Law of God.

Jesus is God just as the Father is God -- so when God is tormented on the cross for the sins of mankind "who is getting paid?" -- is God really "paying Himself" by letting humans torture Him ? Is He "paying Himself" by piling upon Himself all the guilt and torment-debt owed by all the sins in all of time for mankind ? No He is not getting paid at all - rather He is being tortured in that payment. What He is doing is upholding the penalty demanded by His own Law so that it remains while also providing a very very expensive door of escape for mankind.

Urantia misses that entire dimension of salvation. Ellen White did not miss it.
 
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... Urantia misses that entire dimension of salvation...
Yes - urantia seems to think differently about salvation. Urantia seems to think that you get salvation through trusting God.
It seems to think differently about salvation as well.
it does not seem to consider the sacrifice system as being from God or Jesus' purpose. It says that that is a misunderstanding which has caused a lot of confusion.

How do you intend on outreaching to urantia readers?
 
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Is this conversation still going on?

I have stumbled across the Urantia Book and am (albeit very slowly) reading it.
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The bible is the inspired revelation about God by God to humanity .... it is the truth so says Jesus.

Matthew 5:17

English Standard Version
“Do not think that I have come to abolish the Law or the Prophets; I have not come to abolish them but to fulfill them. (That's the OT)

John 5:39

New King James Version
You search the Scriptures, for in them you think you have eternal life; and these are they which testify of Me.

It is difficult to summarize the Urantia Book, as it encompasses many subjects and ideas, from science to politics, from philosophy to history. It is divided into four parts: Part I: The Central and Superuniverses; Part II: The Local Universe; Part III: The History of Urantia; Part IV: The Life and Teachings of Jesus. Consider a few of the teachings found in this book:

* The cosmos is divided into seven concentric rings, the center ring being the Isle of Paradise, where God resides.

* The Urantia Book supersedes the Bible as the ultimate source of truth.

* God exists in three separate trinities: the existential Paradise Trinity, the experiential Ultimate Trinity, and the experiential Absolute Trinity.

* God is known as the Universal Father and is the father of all humanity.

* Jesus Christ is one of many Creator Sons.

* Perfection is attained by continually seeking goodness over the course of many lifetimes, on many different planets.

Obviously, The Urantia Book and its adherents are not representative of biblical Christianity—not by any stretch of the imagination.

Consider the following, in contrast to the teachings listed above: the Bible is our one authoritative source for truth (Acts 17:11; 2 Timothy 3:16–17), not writings gleaned from spirits or aliens (Galatians 1:8);

Jesus is not merely an example of God but rather the One in whom the Godhead fully dwells (Colossians 2:9); man only lives once, not many times, before He faces eternal judgment from God (Hebrews 9:27); salvation does not come through anything that humans can do but is a gift from God (Romans 3:28; Ephesians 2:8–9).
 
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