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There are people online right now making YouTube videos saying they had a rapture dream and that the lord told them it would be after china invades Taiwan. they said we would see the beginning of ww3 and that the united states will be nuked but before we are nuked God would rapture his church from there and everywhere else in the world. I had a dream a few nights before I even came across these videos and it was a very realistic dream. I didn't know it was a dream until I heard my phone making an alarming sound (more annoying than the amber alert sound) and a robotic voice saying a nuke was coming to the united states and that mysterious U.F.O's lined the sky. I heard a man scream in absolute terror. At this point I woke up shaking but the fear immediately left me. I am happy to leave this earth and meet the creator right now. Anyways I will link a few interesting videos below, let me know what you guys think.


 

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I don’t know about the dreams …I know that the sub-conscious mind can do some pretty wild things…

Many of those dreams in the video had 1 or more conflicting scenarios.


The rapture will happen... when it happens ….and when it does, they will need something to explain the disappearance ....it may be a nuke war ...or aliens took us …which would be kind of true in a way.
 
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I don’t know about the dreams …I know that the sub-conscious mind can do some pretty wild things…

Many of those dreams in the video had 1 or more conflicting scenarios.


The rapture will happen... when it happens ….and when it does, they will need something to explain the disappearance ....it may be a nuke war ...or aliens took us …which would be kind of true in a way.
titus 2:13 stay ready brother
 
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name one verse in the bible that states the rapture happens before the tribulation.


Revelation 3:10 ESV
Because you have kept my word about patient endurance, I will keep you from the hour of trial that is coming on the whole world, to try those who dwell on the earth.

1 Thessalonians 5:9 ESV
For God has not destined us for wrath, but to obtain salvation through our Lord Jesus Christ,

1 Thessalonians 4:15-17 ESV
For this we declare to you by a word from the Lord, that we who are alive, who are left until the coming of the Lord, will not precede those who have fallen asleep. For the Lord himself will descend from heaven with a cry of command, with the voice of an archangel, and with the sound of the trumpet of God. And the dead in Christ will rise first. Then we who are alive, who are left, will be caught up together with them in the clouds to meet the Lord in the air, and so we will always be with the Lord.

Revelation 20:4 ESV
Then I saw thrones, and seated on them were those to whom the authority to judge was committed. Also I saw the souls of those who had been beheaded for the testimony of Jesus and for the word of God, and those who had not worshiped the beast or its image and had not received its mark on their foreheads or their hands. They came to life and reigned with Christ for a thousand years.

2 Thessalonians 2:3 ESV
Let no one deceive you in any way. For that day will not come, unless the rebellion comes first, and the man of lawlessness is revealed, the son of destruction,

1 Thessalonians 4:17 ESV
Then we who are alive, who are left, will be caught up together with them in the clouds to meet the Lord in the air, and so we will always be with the Lord.

Revelation 4:1 ESV
After this I looked, and behold, a door standing open in heaven! And the first voice, which I had heard speaking to me like a trumpet, said, “Come up here, and I will show you what must take place after this.”

1 Thessalonians 4:16 ESV
For the Lord himself will descend from heaven with a cry of command, with the voice of an archangel, and with the sound of the trumpet of God. And the dead in Christ will rise first.

Luke 21:36 ESV
But stay awake at all times, praying that you may have strength to escape all these things that are going to take place, and to stand before the Son of Man.”

Matthew 24:1-51 ESV
Jesus left the temple and was going away, when his disciples came to point out to him the buildings of the temple. But he answered them, “You see all these, do you not? Truly, I say to you, there will not be left here one stone upon another that will not be thrown down.” As he sat on the Mount of Olives, the disciples came to him privately, saying, “Tell us, when will these things be, and what will be the sign of your coming and of the close of the age?” And Jesus answered them, “See that no one leads you astray. For many will come in my name, saying, ‘I am the Christ,’ and they will lead many astray. ...

1 Thessalonians 1:10 ESV
And to wait for his Son from heaven, whom he raised from the dead, Jesus who delivers us from the wrath to come.

2 Thessalonians 2:1-17 ESV
Now concerning the coming of our Lord Jesus Christ and our being gathered together to him, we ask you, brothers, not to be quickly shaken in mind or alarmed, either by a spirit or a spoken word, or a letter seeming to be from us, to the effect that the day of the Lord has come. Let no one deceive you in any way. For that day will not come, unless the rebellion comes first, and the man of lawlessness is revealed, the son of destruction, who opposes and exalts himself against every so-called god or object of worship, so that he takes his seat in the temple of God, proclaiming himself to be God. Do you not remember that when I was still with you I told you these things? ...

Daniel 12:2 ESV
And many of those who sleep in the dust of the earth shall awake, some to everlasting life, and some to shame and everlasting contempt.


some of these verses can be seen as for post trib. But I realized that There are two similar events to take place. The rapture, and the second coming. Which are two very different events. one pre tribulation one post. So with that being said we should do our research and pray for discernment. it just makes sense to me that the rapture is pre trib and the second coming is post. Im gonna read revelations tonight.
 
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Too much hype. No one knows the time. All guess work
we should be excited and watching for it. no man knows the day or the hour but the ones who are laboring watch and hope for the rapture before things get bad!
 
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There are allot of people saying different things. The last time I heard such a prophecy was something was supposed to hit the world in November, 2020. You had pastors who had visions telling everyone to look for that date. The problem is when these dates pass by and nothing happens it loses more credibility that it will ever happen. I remember going over allot of videos, my mother having a vision about China, but all pointing it to November 2020.

Now it's the Autumn of this year. There is supposed to be Famines, store shelves empty, and now wars going on with China too? Could this be the same "November 2020" but it was 2 years late?
 
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There are people online right now making YouTube videos saying they had a rapture dream and that the lord told them it would be after china invades Taiwan. they said we would see the beginning of ww3 and that the united states will be nuked but before we are nuked God would rapture his church from there and everywhere else in the world. I had a dream a few nights before I even came across these videos and it was a very realistic dream. I didn't know it was a dream until I heard my phone making an alarming sound (more annoying than the amber alert sound) and a robotic voice saying a nuke was coming to the united states and that mysterious U.F.O's lined the sky. I heard a man scream in absolute terror. At this point I woke up shaking but the fear immediately left me. I am happy to leave this earth and meet the creator right now. Anyways I will link a few interesting videos below, let me know what you guys think.



What type of UFOs did you see in your dream? Were they orb-shaped, cigar-shaped, saucer-shaped, Triangular, large/small, or were they oval symmetrical with a window at the center? Yes, the Rapture will be probably called "the great mass abduction" by those who are left behind.

The man who was screaming in terror? Was he screaming because he missed the Rapture?
 
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Don't give into these things. Those that give people what they want are false prohpets. We must wait for we don't know when this will happen. Be ready.

Luke 12

12 Meanwhile, when a crowd of many thousands had gathered, so that they were trampling on one another, Jesus began to speak first to his disciples, saying: “Be on your guard against the yeast of the Pharisees, which is hypocrisy. 2 There is nothing concealed that will not be disclosed, or hidden that will not be made known. 3 What you have said in the dark will be heard in the daylight, and what you have whispered in the ear in the inner rooms will be proclaimed from the roofs.

4 “I tell you, my friends, do not be afraid of those who kill the body and after that can do no more. 5 But I will show you whom you should fear: Fear him who, after your body has been killed, has authority to throw you into hell. Yes, I tell you, fear him. 6 Are not five sparrows sold for two pennies? Yet not one of them is forgotten by God. 7 Indeed, the very hairs of your head are all numbered. Don’t be afraid; you are worth more than many sparrows.

8 “I tell you, whoever publicly acknowledges me before others, the Son of Man will also acknowledge before the angels of God. 9 But whoever disowns me before others will be disowned before the angels of God. 10 And everyone who speaks a word against the Son of Man will be forgiven, but anyone who blasphemes against the Holy Spirit will not be forgiven.

11 “When you are brought before synagogues, rulers and authorities, do not worry about how you will defend yourselves or what you will say, 12 for the Holy Spirit will teach you at that time what you should say.”

35 “Be dressed ready for service and keep your lamps burning, 36 like servants waiting for their master to return from a wedding banquet, so that when he comes and knocks they can immediately open the door for him. 37 It will be good for those servants whose master finds them watching when he comes. Truly I tell you, he will dress himself to serve, will have them recline at the table and will come and wait on them. 38 It will be good for those servants whose master finds them ready, even if he comes in the middle of the night or toward daybreak. 39 But understand this: If the owner of the house had known at what hour the thief was coming, he would not have let his house be broken into. 40 You also must be ready, because the Son of Man will come at an hour when you do not expect him.”

God bless!
~N. Campos
 
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Despite being warned to not believe such dreams and words and spirits, people still believe it.

2 Thessalonians 2:1-17 ESV

Now concerning the coming of our Lord Jesus Christ and our being gathered together to him, we ask you, brothers, not to be quickly shaken in mind or alarmed, either by a spirit or a spoken word, or a letter seeming to be from us, to the effect that the day of the Lord has come. Let no one deceive you in any way. For that day will not come, unless the rebellion comes first, and the man of lawlessness is revealed, the son of destruction, who opposes and exalts himself against every so-called god or object of worship, so that he takes his seat in the temple of God, proclaiming himself to be God. Do you not remember that when I was still with you I told you these things? ...
 
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What type of UFOs did you see in your dream? Were they orb-shaped, cigar-shaped, saucer-shaped, Triangular, large/small, or were they oval symmetrical with a window at the center? Yes, the Rapture will be probably called "the great mass abduction" by those who are left behind.

The man who was screaming in terror? Was he screaming because he missed the Rapture?

no so I didn't see any ufos I just heard on the warning alarm system on my phone by the announcer saying that there were mysterious ufos in the sky. and the man screaming, was (in my mind) his reaction to what he heard on my phone or perhaps his phone. I imagine that every phone and television will announce a nuke or otherwise. If I missed the rapture I wouldn't be mad because I accept Gods will for my life. If I am to live by some miracle then that's my fate. I would hope to live to do Gods will in my life because I really haven't done much for God. I'm a new Christian and unfortunately I have lived most of my Christian life in the flesh. My hope and trust is completely in Jesus Christ for my salvation. He is the author and finisher of my faith.
 
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Despite being warned to not believe such dreams and words and spirits, people still believe it.

2 Thessalonians 2:1-17 ESV

Now concerning the coming of our Lord Jesus Christ and our being gathered together to him, we ask you, brothers, not to be quickly shaken in mind or alarmed, either by a spirit or a spoken word, or a letter seeming to be from us, to the effect that the day of the Lord has come. Let no one deceive you in any way. For that day will not come, unless the rebellion comes first, and the man of lawlessness is revealed, the son of destruction, who opposes and exalts himself against every so-called god or object of worship, so that he takes his seat in the temple of God, proclaiming himself to be God. Do you not remember that when I was still with you I told you these things? ...

that verse seems to be in regard to the second coming of jesus christ not regarding the rapture of the church these are two very different events.
Although I see the flaws I hadn't realized before. I didn't realize some before mentioned verses I quoted could be talking about the second coming and not the rapture. Ill have to do more research on this. I do still hold faith that God will be coming back for his church before the 7 years of tribulation. Its all lined out in revelations how it will happen. He mentions multiple times in scripture that he will come like a thief in the night. for us to be ready and watching for the departure of the church.
 
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Don't give into these things. Those that give people what they want are false prohpets. We must wait for we don't know when this will happen. Be ready.

Luke 12

12 Meanwhile, when a crowd of many thousands had gathered, so that they were trampling on one another, Jesus began to speak first to his disciples, saying: “Be on your guard against the yeast of the Pharisees, which is hypocrisy. 2 There is nothing concealed that will not be disclosed, or hidden that will not be made known. 3 What you have said in the dark will be heard in the daylight, and what you have whispered in the ear in the inner rooms will be proclaimed from the roofs.

4 “I tell you, my friends, do not be afraid of those who kill the body and after that can do no more. 5 But I will show you whom you should fear: Fear him who, after your body has been killed, has authority to throw you into hell. Yes, I tell you, fear him. 6 Are not five sparrows sold for two pennies? Yet not one of them is forgotten by God. 7 Indeed, the very hairs of your head are all numbered. Don’t be afraid; you are worth more than many sparrows.

8 “I tell you, whoever publicly acknowledges me before others, the Son of Man will also acknowledge before the angels of God. 9 But whoever disowns me before others will be disowned before the angels of God. 10 And everyone who speaks a word against the Son of Man will be forgiven, but anyone who blasphemes against the Holy Spirit will not be forgiven.

11 “When you are brought before synagogues, rulers and authorities, do not worry about how you will defend yourselves or what you will say, 12 for the Holy Spirit will teach you at that time what you should say.”

35 “Be dressed ready for service and keep your lamps burning, 36 like servants waiting for their master to return from a wedding banquet, so that when he comes and knocks they can immediately open the door for him. 37 It will be good for those servants whose master finds them watching when he comes. Truly I tell you, he will dress himself to serve, will have them recline at the table and will come and wait on them. 38 It will be good for those servants whose master finds them ready, even if he comes in the middle of the night or toward daybreak. 39 But understand this: If the owner of the house had known at what hour the thief was coming, he would not have let his house be broken into. 40 You also must be ready, because the Son of Man will come at an hour when you do not expect him.”

God bless!
~N. Campos

If he says he will come at an hour that you do not expect that should lead both of us in agreement saying no man knows when he will come. So rebuke your first claim that we shouldn't "give in" to these ideas. no one is giving in to anything. WE SHOULD BE WATCHING AND WAITING FOR HIS RETURN SO HE DOESN'T COME UPON US LIKE A THEIF IN THE NIGHT. If you are waiting for certain things to come before he raptures the church you wont be ready for his arrival. If you are watching and waiting always even if he doesn't come today tomorrow or next year, you will always be ready and watching. Think on these things brother. I am not sure what you say these so called false prophets are trying to do. Give the people what exactly? Hope that their savior is at the door? No man knows but the father knows when he will send jesus to call his church to meet in the clouds.
 
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that verse seems to be in regard to the second coming of jesus christ not regarding the rapture of the church these are two very different events.
Although I see the flaws I hadn't realized before. I didn't realize some before mentioned verses I quoted could be talking about the second coming and not the rapture. Ill have to do more research on this. I do still hold faith that God will be coming back for his church before the 7 years of tribulation. Its all lined out in revelations how it will happen. He mentions multiple times in scripture that he will come like a thief in the night. for us to be ready and watching for the departure of the church.
The verses specially say "coming of our Lord Jesus Christ and our being gathered together to him" and that that day would not come until after the antichrist shows up.
 
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The verses specially say "coming of our Lord Jesus Christ and our being gathered together to him" and that that day would not come until after the antichrist shows up.

Yes the coming is referring to the second coming not the rapture
 
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