BobRyan said:
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God only speaks the ten - once directly to Israel from the mountain and that is in Ex 20.
No confusion at all in that case - no matter how often they get quoted and repeated by others.
That's not what the text says, no matter how often it's denied. There are three sets of 10 commandments listed - Ex 20, Ex 34, and Deut 5.
Ex 34 is one-to-one with Moses not with all Israel and God thundering words down the mountain.
Ex 34 - is one-to-one with Moses not with all Israel and God thundering words down the mountain.
And rather than writing a different set of words on stone -- God said Ex 34:1 "Now the Lord said to Moses, “Cut out for yourself two stone tablets like the former ones, and
I will write on the tablets the words that were on the former tablets which you smashed."
Deut 5 is Moses writing 40 years after the event - and reminding them to remember the words spoken directly to Israel in Ex 20. There is no case in Deut 5 where 40 years after the Ex 20 Sinai event God is once again thundering words down the mountain --- speaking directly to all the nation.
Deut 4:10
Remember the
day you stood before the Lord your God at Horeb, when the Lord said to me, ‘Assemble the people to Me, that I may have them hear My words so that they may learn to fear Me all the days that they live on the earth, and that they may teach their children.’ 11
You came forward and stood at the foot of the mountain, and the
mountain was burning with fire to the heart of the heavens: darkness, cloud, and thick gloom. 12
Then the Lord spoke to you from the midst of the fire; you heard the sound of words, but you saw no form—
there was only a voice. 13 So He declared to you His covenant which He commanded you to perform,
that is,
the Ten Commandments; and He wrote them on two tablets of stone,,, 15 “So be very careful yourselves, since you did not see any form on the day the Lord spoke to you at Horeb from the midst of the fire,
THE TEN - according to Deut 4 - are those words spoken 40 years earlier directly to Israel - out of the fire at the top of the mountain directly to the entire camp.
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Deut 5:4 The
Lord spoke with you face to face at the mountain from the
midst of the fire, 5
while I was standing between the Lord and you at that time, to declare to you the word of the Lord;
for you were afraid because of the fire, and you did not go up on the mountain
22 “These words
the Lord spoke to your whole assembly at the mountain from the midst of the fire,
from the cloud, and
from the thick darkness, with a great voice, and He added nothing more. He
wrote them on two tablets of stone and gave them to me
Not "I hereby chisel new tables of stone" in that Duet 5 case - but rather a direct reference back to the Ex 20 event itself - and the Ex 20 stones Ex 31:18.
