If a Christian finds himself in a hostile environment, can they deny their faith

JohnB445 said:

If a Christian finds himself in a hostile environment, can they deny their faith

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JohnB445 said:

For example, someone can ask how someone else's day is, and they lie and say it was good, when they believe it was a bad day to avoid talking about it, and just move on from the conversation.

Now if a Christian finds themselves in a group of non-believers and feels threatened if their faith were to be revealed. When asked can they lie, while they still believe in their faith?

It is not denial of the faith while disbelieving in the faith, it is momentarily professing to deny the faith while still believing in order to avoid a perceived danger.

I may have done so incorrectly, in one of my cases I withheld from revealing what I believe because I thought it would cause me to lose a potential friend, however I lost them anyway.

Some of my close friends are muslims, and I think if I reveal my beliefs especially the ones that are offensive to their beliefs. That they would unfriend me, and I don't have many other friends.

I never told them my beliefs, and I would feel wrong if I never do and let them pass away without ever telling them. I sometimes get thoughts that my efforts to share will not go well anyways, or that they can find out themselves easily if they want to so they have no excuse.

I already tried with my parents, and they vehemently denied and made it clear they don't want to hear about Jesus again.

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JohnB445 said:

For example, someone can ask how someone else's day is, and they lie and say it was good, when they believe it was a bad day to avoid talking about it, and just move on from the conversation.

Now if a Christian finds themselves in a group of non-believers and feels threatened if their faith were to be revealed. When asked can they lie, while they still believe in their faith?

It is not denial of the faith while disbelieving in the faith, it is momentarily professing to deny the faith while still believing in order to avoid a perceived danger.

I may have done so incorrectly, in one of my cases I withheld from revealing what I believe because I thought it would cause me to lose a potential friend, however I lost them anyway.

Some of my close friends are muslims, and I think if I reveal my beliefs especially the ones that are offensive to their beliefs. That they would unfriend me, and I don't have many other friends.

I never told them my beliefs, and I would feel wrong if I never do and let them pass away without ever telling them. I sometimes get thoughts that my efforts to share will not go well anyways, or that they can find out themselves easily if they want to so they have no excuse.

I already tried with my parents, and they vehemently denied and made it clear they don't want to hear about Jesus again.

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JohnB445 said:

For example, someone can ask how someone else's day is, and they lie and say it was good, when they believe it was a bad day to avoid talking about it, and just move on from the conversation.

Now if a Christian finds themselves in a group of non-believers and feels threatened if their faith were to be revealed. When asked can they lie, while they still believe in their faith?

It is not denial of the faith while disbelieving in the faith, it is momentarily professing to deny the faith while still believing in order to avoid a perceived danger.

I may have done so incorrectly, in one of my cases I withheld from revealing what I believe because I thought it would cause me to lose a potential friend, however I lost them anyway.

Some of my close friends are muslims, and I think if I reveal my beliefs especially the ones that are offensive to their beliefs. That they would unfriend me, and I don't have many other friends.

I never told them my beliefs, and I would feel wrong if I never do and let them pass away without ever telling them. I sometimes get thoughts that my efforts to share will not go well anyways, or that they can find out themselves easily if they want to so they have no excuse.

I already tried with my parents, and they vehemently denied and made it clear they don't want to hear about Jesus again.

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Neogaia777 said:

Under certain circumstances it is ok, and is even a very good thing sometimes, etc, to sometimes lie to one's enemies sometimes, etc, or sometimes it is ok to withold certain things/truths from certain people sometimes if you feel inadequately prepared to make a proper defense for your faith or those truths or the Gospel, etc, but other than that, no, it is not right to deliberately lie about your faith when asked about it directly hardly at all ever, etc...

God Bless!

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JohnB445 said:

For example, someone can ask how someone else's day is, and they lie and say it was good, when they believe it was a bad day to avoid talking about it, and just move on from the conversation.

Now if a Christian finds themselves in a group of non-believers and feels threatened if their faith were to be revealed. When asked can they lie, while they still believe in their faith?

It is not denial of the faith while disbelieving in the faith, it is momentarily professing to deny the faith while still believing in order to avoid a perceived danger.

I may have done so incorrectly, in one of my cases I withheld from revealing what I believe because I thought it would cause me to lose a potential friend, however I lost them anyway.

Some of my close friends are muslims, and I think if I reveal my beliefs especially the ones that are offensive to their beliefs. That they would unfriend me, and I don't have many other friends.

I never told them my beliefs, and I would feel wrong if I never do and let them pass away without ever telling them. I sometimes get thoughts that my efforts to share will not go well anyways, or that they can find out themselves easily if they want to so they have no excuse.

I already tried with my parents, and they vehemently denied and made it clear they don't want to hear about Jesus again.

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JohnB445 said:

For example, someone can ask how someone else's day is, and they lie and say it was good, when they believe it was a bad day to avoid talking about it, and just move on from the conversation.

Now if a Christian finds themselves in a group of non-believers and feels threatened if their faith were to be revealed. When asked can they lie, while they still believe in their faith?

It is not denial of the faith while disbelieving in the faith, it is momentarily professing to deny the faith while still believing in order to avoid a perceived danger.

I may have done so incorrectly, in one of my cases I withheld from revealing what I believe because I thought it would cause me to lose a potential friend, however I lost them anyway.

Some of my close friends are muslims, and I think if I reveal my beliefs especially the ones that are offensive to their beliefs. That they would unfriend me, and I don't have many other friends.

I never told them my beliefs, and I would feel wrong if I never do and let them pass away without ever telling them. I sometimes get thoughts that my efforts to share will not go well anyways, or that they can find out themselves easily if they want to so they have no excuse.

I already tried with my parents, and they vehemently denied and made it clear they don't want to hear about Jesus again.

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JohnB445 said:

Now if a Christian finds themselves in a group of non-believers and feels threatened if their faith were to be revealed. When asked can they lie, while they still believe in their faith?

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JohnB445 said:

It is not denial of the faith while disbelieving in the faith, it is momentarily professing to deny the faith while still believing in order to avoid a perceived danger.

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JohnB445 said:

Some of my close friends are muslims, and I think if I reveal my beliefs especially the ones that are offensive to their beliefs. That they would unfriend me, and I don't have many other friends.

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JohnB445 said:

I never told them my beliefs, and I would feel wrong if I never do and let them pass away without ever telling them.

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JohnB445 said:

I already tried with my parents, and they vehemently denied and made it clear they don't want to hear about Jesus again.

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JohnB445 said:

For example, someone can ask how someone else's day is, and they lie and say it was good, when they believe it was a bad day to avoid talking about it, and just move on from the conversation.

Now if a Christian finds themselves in a group of non-believers and feels threatened if their faith were to be revealed. When asked can they lie, while they still believe in their faith?

It is not denial of the faith while disbelieving in the faith, it is momentarily professing to deny the faith while still believing in order to avoid a perceived danger.

I may have done so incorrectly, in one of my cases I withheld from revealing what I believe because I thought it would cause me to lose a potential friend, however I lost them anyway.

Some of my close friends are muslims, and I think if I reveal my beliefs especially the ones that are offensive to their beliefs. That they would unfriend me, and I don't have many other friends.

I never told them my beliefs, and I would feel wrong if I never do and let them pass away without ever telling them. I sometimes get thoughts that my efforts to share will not go well anyways, or that they can find out themselves easily if they want to so they have no excuse.

I already tried with my parents, and they vehemently denied and made it clear they don't want to hear about Jesus again.

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JohnB445 said:

For example, someone can ask how someone else's day is, and they lie and say it was good, when they believe it was a bad day to avoid talking about it, and just move on from the conversation.

Now if a Christian finds themselves in a group of non-believers and feels threatened if their faith were to be revealed. When asked can they lie, while they still believe in their faith?

It is not denial of the faith while disbelieving in the faith, it is momentarily professing to deny the faith while still believing in order to avoid a perceived danger.

I may have done so incorrectly, in one of my cases I withheld from revealing what I believe because I thought it would cause me to lose a potential friend, however I lost them anyway.

Some of my close friends are muslims, and I think if I reveal my beliefs especially the ones that are offensive to their beliefs. That they would unfriend me, and I don't have many other friends.

I never told them my beliefs, and I would feel wrong if I never do and let them pass away without ever telling them. I sometimes get thoughts that my efforts to share will not go well anyways, or that they can find out themselves easily if they want to so they have no excuse.

I already tried with my parents, and they vehemently denied and made it clear they don't want to hear about Jesus again.

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JohnB445 said:

For example, someone can ask how someone else's day is, and they lie and say it was good, when they believe it was a bad day to avoid talking about it, and just move on from the conversation.

Now if a Christian finds themselves in a group of non-believers and feels threatened if their faith were to be revealed. When asked can they lie, while they still believe in their faith?

It is not denial of the faith while disbelieving in the faith, it is momentarily professing to deny the faith while still believing in order to avoid a perceived danger.

I may have done so incorrectly, in one of my cases I withheld from revealing what I believe because I thought it would cause me to lose a potential friend, however I lost them anyway.

Some of my close friends are muslims, and I think if I reveal my beliefs especially the ones that are offensive to their beliefs. That they would unfriend me, and I don't have many other friends.

I never told them my beliefs, and I would feel wrong if I never do and let them pass away without ever telling them. I sometimes get thoughts that my efforts to share will not go well anyways, or that they can find out themselves easily if they want to so they have no excuse.

I already tried with my parents, and they vehemently denied and made it clear they don't want to hear about Jesus again.

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JohnB445 said:

For example, someone can ask how someone else's day is, and they lie and say it was good, when they believe it was a bad day to avoid talking about it, and just move on from the conversation.

Now if a Christian finds themselves in a group of non-believers and feels threatened if their faith were to be revealed. When asked can they lie, while they still believe in their faith?

It is not denial of the faith while disbelieving in the faith, it is momentarily professing to deny the faith while still believing in order to avoid a perceived danger.

I may have done so incorrectly, in one of my cases I withheld from revealing what I believe because I thought it would cause me to lose a potential friend, however I lost them anyway.

Some of my close friends are muslims, and I think if I reveal my beliefs especially the ones that are offensive to their beliefs. That they would unfriend me, and I don't have many other friends.

I never told them my beliefs, and I would feel wrong if I never do and let them pass away without ever telling them. I sometimes get thoughts that my efforts to share will not go well anyways, or that they can find out themselves easily if they want to so they have no excuse.

I already tried with my parents, and they vehemently denied and made it clear they don't want to hear about Jesus again.

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Neogaia777 said:

If an evil totalitarian regime is going around killing people who will say they are Christians, and you hate them and their regime and everything they stand for very much intensely, and you think there is a better or higher reason for you to be preserved alive, then it might be ok to lie to them directly under some certain kind of circumstances sometimes, etc, as long as your primary motivations and/or reasons is not fear of them or what they can do to you in your heart, but is maybe one of the other kinds or reasons I just now mentioned, etc, then it might be just to lie to their face sometimes depending on what the true primary motivations or reasons are in your heart truly, etc, because that is where true sin starts, is in your heart, and the Bible doesn't say that hate is always wrong always, and even praises at times a certain amount of wisdom and cunning/deception/subterfuge when it comes to your enemies, who are also God's enemies, etc...

There are some situations that might arise in the future where it's ok to lie, and maybe even lie about your faith sometimes...

Again, it all comes down to your primary motivations and/or reasons in your heart, etc...

I don't think you guys have imagined and/or considered nearly enough, etc, otherwise you would be wise enough to know that there can be no true justice as long as all laws are always absolute, and where it never makes any kind of exceptional cases ever at all ever, etc...

I might lie to any kind of future totalitarian Hitler-like regime out of sheer spite, etc, and also might do it if I knew that my living could, or would, or might, etc, come to serve many others very, very much better here on earth, than if I had told the truth, etc...

Everything is not black or white, etc, and morality must also change with all the certain and/or specific situations of the times also, etc...

In a world that has gone to hell, everyone's morality does and will change, etc, and in order to be more moral than the other guys...?

Anyway, yours might have to change or adjust as well, etc...

God Bless!

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JohnB445 said:

For example, someone can ask how someone else's day is, and they lie and say it was good, when they believe it was a bad day to avoid talking about it, and just move on from the conversation.

Now if a Christian finds themselves in a group of non-believers and feels threatened if their faith were to be revealed. When asked can they lie, while they still believe in their faith?

It is not denial of the faith while disbelieving in the faith, it is momentarily professing to deny the faith while still believing in order to avoid a perceived danger.

I may have done so incorrectly, in one of my cases I withheld from revealing what I believe because I thought it would cause me to lose a potential friend, however I lost them anyway.

Some of my close friends are muslims, and I think if I reveal my beliefs especially the ones that are offensive to their beliefs. That they would unfriend me, and I don't have many other friends.

I never told them my beliefs, and I would feel wrong if I never do and let them pass away without ever telling them. I sometimes get thoughts that my efforts to share will not go well anyways, or that they can find out themselves easily if they want to so they have no excuse.

I already tried with my parents, and they vehemently denied and made it clear they don't want to hear about Jesus again.

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