WHY ISREAL IS NOT PART OF THE BODY OF CHRIST .

Dan Perez · Jul 28, 2022

BABerean2 said:
The word "water" is not found in the text of Acts chapter 2.

Which baptism is a part of the salvation process, based on what the Bible says?

What did Peter say below?

Acts 11:15 And as I began to speak, the Holy Ghost fell on them, as on us at the beginning.

Acts 11:16 Then remembered I the word of the Lord, how that he said, John indeed baptized with water; but ye shall be baptized with the Holy Ghost.

Act 11:17 Forasmuch then as God gave them the like gift as he did unto us, who believed on the Lord Jesus Christ; what was I, that I could withstand God?

Based on Luke 3:16, and John 1:33, and Acts 11:15-16, the most important thing about the word "baptize" in the New Testament has nothing to do with water. The Holy Spirit is the master teacher promised to New Covenant believers in Jeremiah 31:34, and John 14:26, and is found fulfilled in Ephesians 1:13, and 1 John 2:27. Unfortunately, many modern Christians see water when they read the word "baptize" in the text. Based on the above, what is the one baptism of our faith found in the passage below? How many times is the word "Spirit" found in the passage, and how many times is the word "water" found in the passage?

Eph 4:1 I therefore, the prisoner of the Lord, beseech you that ye walk worthy of the vocation wherewith ye are called,

Eph 4:2 With all lowliness and meekness, with longsuffering, forbearing one another in love;

Eph 4:3 Endeavouring to keep the unity of the Spirit in the bond of peace.

Eph 4:4 There is one body, and one Spirit, even as ye are called in one hope of your calling;

Eph 4:5 One Lord, one faith, one baptism,

“baptize” KJV

Mat_3:11 I indeed baptize you with water unto repentance: but he that cometh after me is mightier than I, whose shoes I am not worthy to bear: he shall baptize you with the Holy Ghost, and with fire:

Mar_1:8 I indeed have baptized you with water: but he shall baptize you with the Holy Ghost.

Luk_3:16 John answered, saying unto them all, I indeed baptize you with water; but one mightier than I cometh, the latchet of whose shoes I am not worthy to unloose: he shall baptize you with the Holy Ghost and with fire:

Joh_1:26 John answered them, saying, I baptize with water: but there standeth one among you, whom ye know not;

Joh_1:33 And I knew him not: but he that sent me to baptize with water, the same said unto me, Upon whom thou shalt see the Spirit descending, and remaining on him, the same is he which baptizeth with the Holy Ghost.

1Co_1:17 For Christ sent me not to baptize, but to preach the gospel: not with wisdom of words, lest the cross of Christ should be made of none effect.

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And in Acts 2:41 Then the ones indeed having joyfully received his word were BAPTIZED and was WATER used here ? Were they saved WITHOUT WATER ??

In 1 Cor 10:2 and ALL were BAPTIZED unto Moses in the CLOUD and in the SEA , how were they , the Jews BAPTIZED .

And were the Egyptians that followed BAPTIZED , IMMERSED , or SUBMERGED

dan p

There is a DRY BAPTISM and also a WATER BAPTISM here , yes there IS >

BABerean2 · Jul 28, 2022

Dan Perez said:
And in Acts 2:41 Then the ones indeed having joyfully received his word were BAPTIZED and was WATER used here ? Were they saved WITHOUT WATER ??

In 1 Cor 10:2 and ALL were BAPTIZED unto Moses in the CLOUD and in the SEA , how were they , the Jews BAPTIZED .

And were the Egyptians that followed BAPTIZED , IMMERSED , or SUBMERGED

dan p

There is a DRY BAPTISM and also a WATER BAPTISM here , yes there IS >

God saved all of the children of Israel from the Egyptians at the Red Sea crossing. However, that does not mean they were saved spiritually. Many of those same people were swallowed by the earth during the time of Korah's rebellion against Moses.

Nobody has ever been saved by water baptism, based on what the Bible says.

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Which baptism is a part of the salvation process, based on what the Bible says?

What did Peter say below?

Acts 11:15 And as I began to speak, the Holy Ghost fell on them, as on us at the beginning.

Acts 11:16 Then remembered I the word of the Lord, how that he said, John indeed baptized with water; but ye shall be baptized with the Holy Ghost.

Act 11:17 Forasmuch then as God gave them the like gift as he did unto us, who believed on the Lord Jesus Christ; what was I, that I could withstand God?

Based on Luke 3:16, and John 1:33, and Acts 11:15-16, the most important thing about the word "baptize" in the New Testament has nothing to do with water. The Holy Spirit is the master teacher promised to New Covenant believers in Jeremiah 31:34, and John 14:26, and is found fulfilled in Ephesians 1:13, and 1 John 2:27. Unfortunately, many modern Christians see water when they read the word "baptize" in the text. Based on the above, what is the one baptism of our faith found in the passage below? How many times is the word "Spirit" found in the passage, and how many times is the word "water" found in the passage?

Eph 4:1 I therefore, the prisoner of the Lord, beseech you that ye walk worthy of the vocation wherewith ye are called,

Eph 4:2 With all lowliness and meekness, with longsuffering, forbearing one another in love;

Eph 4:3 Endeavouring to keep the unity of the Spirit in the bond of peace.

Eph 4:4 There is one body, and one Spirit, even as ye are called in one hope of your calling;

Eph 4:5 One Lord, one faith, one baptism,

“baptize” KJV

Mat_3:11 I indeed baptize you with water unto repentance: but he that cometh after me is mightier than I, whose shoes I am not worthy to bear: he shall baptize you with the Holy Ghost, and with fire:

Mar_1:8 I indeed have baptized you with water: but he shall baptize you with the Holy Ghost.

Luk_3:16 John answered, saying unto them all, I indeed baptize you with water; but one mightier than I cometh, the latchet of whose shoes I am not worthy to unloose: he shall baptize you with the Holy Ghost and with fire:

Joh_1:26 John answered them, saying, I baptize with water: but there standeth one among you, whom ye know not;

Joh_1:33 And I knew him not: but he that sent me to baptize with water, the same said unto me, Upon whom thou shalt see the Spirit descending, and remaining on him, the same is he which baptizeth with the Holy Ghost.

1Co_1:17 For Christ sent me not to baptize, but to preach the gospel: not with wisdom of words, lest the cross of Christ should be made of none effect.

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Dan Perez · Jul 29, 2022

BABerean2 said:
God saved all of the children of Israel from the Egyptians at the Red Sea crossing. However, that does not mean they were saved spiritually. Many of those same people were swallowed by the earth during the time of Korah's rebellion against Moses.

Nobody has ever been saved by water baptism, based on what the Bible says.

====================

Which baptism is a part of the salvation process, based on what the Bible says?

What did Peter say below?

Acts 11:15 And as I began to speak, the Holy Ghost fell on them, as on us at the beginning.

Acts 11:16 Then remembered I the word of the Lord, how that he said, John indeed baptized with water; but ye shall be baptized with the Holy Ghost.

Act 11:17 Forasmuch then as God gave them the like gift as he did unto us, who believed on the Lord Jesus Christ; what was I, that I could withstand God?

Based on Luke 3:16, and John 1:33, and Acts 11:15-16, the most important thing about the word "baptize" in the New Testament has nothing to do with water. The Holy Spirit is the master teacher promised to New Covenant believers in Jeremiah 31:34, and John 14:26, and is found fulfilled in Ephesians 1:13, and 1 John 2:27. Unfortunately, many modern Christians see water when they read the word "baptize" in the text. Based on the above, what is the one baptism of our faith found in the passage below? How many times is the word "Spirit" found in the passage, and how many times is the word "water" found in the passage?

Eph 4:1 I therefore, the prisoner of the Lord, beseech you that ye walk worthy of the vocation wherewith ye are called,

Eph 4:2 With all lowliness and meekness, with longsuffering, forbearing one another in love;

Eph 4:3 Endeavouring to keep the unity of the Spirit in the bond of peace.

Eph 4:4 There is one body, and one Spirit, even as ye are called in one hope of your calling;

Eph 4:5 One Lord, one faith, one baptism,

“baptize” KJV

Mat_3:11 I indeed baptize you with water unto repentance: but he that cometh after me is mightier than I, whose shoes I am not worthy to bear: he shall baptize you with the Holy Ghost, and with fire:

Mar_1:8 I indeed have baptized you with water: but he shall baptize you with the Holy Ghost.

Luk_3:16 John answered, saying unto them all, I indeed baptize you with water; but one mightier than I cometh, the latchet of whose shoes I am not worthy to unloose: he shall baptize you with the Holy Ghost and with fire:

Joh_1:26 John answered them, saying, I baptize with water: but there standeth one among you, whom ye know not;

Joh_1:33 And I knew him not: but he that sent me to baptize with water, the same said unto me, Upon whom thou shalt see the Spirit descending, and remaining on him, the same is he which baptizeth with the Holy Ghost.

1Co_1:17 For Christ sent me not to baptize, but to preach the gospel: not with wisdom of words, lest the cross of Christ should be made of none effect.

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Mark16 : 16 says He that believeth and is BAPTIZED shall be saved , but he that believeth not shall be DAMNED .

Is there water HERE or not ?

If anyone says that it is not WATER , then what is used to BAPTIZE that person !

Verse 17 is hard to believe for most as they will have SIGNS will follow .

#1 cast out demons

#2 they wil take up SERPENTS

#3 drink any DEADLY thing , will not hurt them

#4 lays hands on the SICK and they SHALL RECOVER /

When you see the words SHALL FOLLOW , SHALL CAST OUT , and SPEAK WITH NEW TONGUES are in the Greek FUTURE TENSE and have YET to happen .

dan p

readywriter · Aug 1, 2022

Dan Perez said:
Israel will never be part of the BODY of CHRIST , because Gal 3:28 says that they can not .

Anyone who says they are , just present evidence and verses , that they are !!

Happy to have a dialogue ,

dan p

Hello @Dan Perez,

The Church which is the Body of Christ, is made up of believers from Israel and from among the Gentile nations. They constitute a joint body, who are equal and united in Christ Jesus their risen and glorified Head.

Read:- Ephesians, Philippians, Colossians, 2 Timothy & Titus, written following the Divine revelation made to Paul while in prison at Rome. These epistles contain all that can be known about this company, on the basis of Romans 5:12-8:39. For until it's revelation this knowledge was 'hid in God' (Ephesians 3:9), and not the subject of Scripture previously written, in either the Old Testament or New.

Thank you
In Christ Jesus
Chris

BABerean2 · Aug 2, 2022

Dan Perez said:
If anyone says that it is not WATER , then what is used to BAPTIZE that person !

What does the Bible say below?

Mar 1:8 I indeed have baptized you with water: but he shall baptize you with the Holy Ghost.

Act 11:15 And as I began to speak, the Holy Ghost fell on them, as on us at the beginning.
Act 11:16 Then remembered I the word of the Lord, how that he said, John indeed baptized with water; but ye shall be baptized with the Holy Ghost.

Eph 1:13 In whom ye also trusted, after that ye heard the word of truth, the gospel of your salvation: in whom also after that ye believed, ye were sealed with that holy Spirit of promise,

Millions of those water baptized but not baptized with the Holy Spirit are revealed as unbelievers by the verse below.

Rom 8:9 But ye are not in the flesh, but in the Spirit, if so be that the Spirit of God dwell in you. Now if any man have not the Spirit of Christ, he is none of his.

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Dan Perez · Aug 16, 2022

BABerean2 said:
What does the Bible say below?

Mar 1:8 I indeed have baptized you with water: but he shall baptize you with the Holy Ghost.

Act 11:15 And as I began to speak, the Holy Ghost fell on them, as on us at the beginning.
Act 11:16 Then remembered I the word of the Lord, how that he said, John indeed baptized with water; but ye shall be baptized with the Holy Ghost.

Eph 1:13 In whom ye also trusted, after that ye heard the word of truth, the gospel of your salvation: in whom also after that ye believed, ye were sealed with that holy Spirit of promise,

Millions of those water baptized but not baptized with the Holy Spirit are revealed as unbelievers by the verse below.

Rom 8:9 But ye are not in the flesh, but in the Spirit, if so be that the Spirit of God dwell in you. Now if any man have not the Spirit of Christ, he is none of his.

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And Acts 1:5 is Identical to Mark 1:8

So , do you believe that to be BAPTIZED with the HOLY SPIRIT is with WATER ?

dan p

BABerean2 · Aug 16, 2022

Dan Perez said:
And Acts 1:5 is Identical to Acts 1:5 .

So , do you believe that to be BAPTIZED with the HOLY SPIRIT is with WATER ?

dan p

No.

Which baptism is a part of the salvation process, based on what the Bible says?

What did Peter say below?

Acts 11:15 And as I began to speak, the Holy Ghost fell on them, as on us at the beginning.

Acts 11:16 Then remembered I the word of the Lord, how that he said, John indeed baptized with water; but ye shall be baptized with the Holy Ghost.

Act 11:17 Forasmuch then as God gave them the like gift as he did unto us, who believed on the Lord Jesus Christ; what was I, that I could withstand God?

Based on Luke 3:16, and John 1:33, and Acts 11:15-16, the most important thing about the word "baptize" in the New Testament has nothing to do with water. The Holy Spirit is the master teacher promised to New Covenant believers in Jeremiah 31:34, and John 14:26, and is found fulfilled in Ephesians 1:13, and 1 John 2:27. Unfortunately, many modern Christians see water when they read the word "baptize" in the text. Based on the above, what is the one baptism of our faith found in the passage below? How many times is the word "Spirit" found in the passage, and how many times is the word "water" found in the passage?

Eph 4:1 I therefore, the prisoner of the Lord, beseech you that ye walk worthy of the vocation wherewith ye are called,

Eph 4:2 With all lowliness and meekness, with longsuffering, forbearing one another in love;

Eph 4:3 Endeavouring to keep the unity of the Spirit in the bond of peace.

Eph 4:4 There is one body, and one Spirit, even as ye are called in one hope of your calling;

Eph 4:5 One Lord, one faith, one baptism,

“baptize” KJV

Mat_3:11 I indeed baptize you with water unto repentance: but he that cometh after me is mightier than I, whose shoes I am not worthy to bear: he shall baptize you with the Holy Ghost, and with fire:

Mar_1:8 I indeed have baptized you with water: but he shall baptize you with the Holy Ghost.

Luk_3:16 John answered, saying unto them all, I indeed baptize you with water; but one mightier than I cometh, the latchet of whose shoes I am not worthy to unloose: he shall baptize you with the Holy Ghost and with fire:

Joh_1:26 John answered them, saying, I baptize with water: but there standeth one among you, whom ye know not;

Joh_1:33 And I knew him not: but he that sent me to baptize with water, the same said unto me, Upon whom thou shalt see the Spirit descending, and remaining on him, the same is he which baptizeth with the Holy Ghost.

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Guojing · Aug 17, 2022

Dan Perez said:
Israel will never be part of the BODY of CHRIST , because Gal 3:28 says that they can not .

Anyone who says they are , just present evidence and verses , that they are !!

Happy to have a dialogue ,

dan p

Israel has so many juicy physical blessings, promises of heath and financial prosperity.

Since we in the flesh are naturally drawn towards those, it is naturally difficult to believe that we in the Body of Christ are not Israel of some sort.

Dan Perez · Aug 18, 2022

Guojing said:
Israel has so many juicy physical blessings, promises of heath and financial prosperity.

Since we in the flesh are naturally drawn towards those, it is naturally difficult to believe that we in the Body of Christ are not Israel of some sort.

And when are bodies are changed , we become part of CHRIST ,as Gal 3:28 says we ARE IN CHRIST .

danp

BABerean2 · Aug 20, 2022

Guojing said:
Israel has so many juicy physical blessings, promises of heath and financial prosperity.

Since we in the flesh are naturally drawn towards those, it is naturally difficult to believe that we in the Body of Christ are not Israel of some sort.

Exposing the Founder of Dispensational Theology: (What is the history of the doctrine?)

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Dan Perez · Aug 20, 2022

BABerean2 said:
Exposing the Founder of Dispensational Theology: (What is the history of the doctrine?)

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I believe that when seen where Israel in eternity and Matt 8:11 says that all will come from The EAST and WEST and sit down with Abraham ,and Isaac and Jacob in the KINGDOM of HEAVEN which is here on earth .

Grace believers will GOVERNING the Universe and ANGELS as written in 1 Cor 6:2 and 3 , and there are no options here .
In the end time there 3 places where all people will be ,

#1 Live on earth , The KINGDOM of HEAVEN .

#2 Live in the UNIVERSE ..

#3 Or be inthe LAKE of FIRE .

dan p

readywriter · Aug 20, 2022

Subject heading:- WHY ISREAL IS NOT PART OF THE BODY OF CHRIST .

Hello there,

Why should we want to deny Redeemed Israel the allotted sphere of blessing that is theirs according to God's purpose. Why should we seek to place them into a sphere of blessing and service which it is not God's purpose for them to inhabit or fulfil?

* The answer to the question posed in the subject heading, as to why Israel is not part of the Body of Christ, is because God has not willed it so.

* There are three spheres to be inhabited in the age to come, and three separate redeemed companies who will take their allotted places within them, according to the will of God.

* Rejoice and be glad that you, as a believer in the Lord Jesus Christ have a part in whatever calling and Sphere you have been called into and be thankful.

Thank you
In Christ Jesus
Chris

Guojing · Aug 20, 2022

BABerean2 said:
Exposing the Founder of Dispensational Theology: (What is the history of the doctrine?)

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You should at least address the topic of the post you are replying to, instead of doing your usual cut and paste

BABerean2 · Aug 21, 2022

Guojing said:
You should at least address the topic of the post you are replying to, instead of doing your usual cut and paste

Some of the leading proponents of your doctrine reveal below their views of your Two Peoples of God doctrine.

Dallas Theological Seminary in Dallas Texas was created in part to promote John Darby’s Two Peoples of God doctrine of Dispensational Theology.

Lewis Sperry Chafer, the first president of Dallas Theological, had the following to say about the difference between Israel and the Church:

“The dispensationalist believes that throughout the ages God is pursuing two distinct purposes: one related to the earth with earthly people and earthly objectives involved which is Judaism; while the other is related to heaven with heavenly people and heavenly objectives involved, which is Christianity.”

Lewis Sperry Chafer, Dispensationalism (Dallas, Seminary Press, 1936), p. 107.

Chafer states that, ‘Israel is an eternal nation, heir to an eternal land, with an eternal kingdom, on which David rules from an eternal throne,’ that is, on earth and distinct from the church who will be in heaven.”

Lewis Sperry Chafer. Systematic Theology. 1975. Vol. IV. pp. 315-323.

John Walvoord, another prominent voice of Dallas Theological stated…

"...it is an article of normative dispensational belief that the boundaries of the land promised to Abraham and his descendants from the Nile to the Euphrates will be literally instituted and that Jesus Christ will return to a literal and theocratic Jewish kingdom centred on a rebuilt temple in Jerusalem. In such a scheme the Church on earth is relegated to the status of a parenthesis.”

John F. Walvoord, The Rapture Question.1979, p. 25

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Guojing · Aug 21, 2022

BABerean2 said:
Some of the leading proponents of your doctrine reveal below their views of your Two Peoples of God doctrine.

Dallas Theological Seminary in Dallas Texas was created in part to promote John Darby’s Two Peoples of God doctrine of Dispensational Theology.

Lewis Sperry Chafer, the first president of Dallas Theological, had the following to say about the difference between Israel and the Church:

“The dispensationalist believes that throughout the ages God is pursuing two distinct purposes: one related to the earth with earthly people and earthly objectives involved which is Judaism; while the other is related to heaven with heavenly people and heavenly objectives involved, which is Christianity.”

Lewis Sperry Chafer, Dispensationalism (Dallas, Seminary Press, 1936), p. 107.

Chafer states that, ‘Israel is an eternal nation, heir to an eternal land, with an eternal kingdom, on which David rules from an eternal throne,’ that is, on earth and distinct from the church who will be in heaven.”

Lewis Sperry Chafer. Systematic Theology. 1975. Vol. IV. pp. 315-323.

John Walvoord, another prominent voice of Dallas Theological stated…

"...it is an article of normative dispensational belief that the boundaries of the land promised to Abraham and his descendants from the Nile to the Euphrates will be literally instituted and that Jesus Christ will return to a literal and theocratic Jewish kingdom centred on a rebuilt temple in Jerusalem. In such a scheme the Church on earth is relegated to the status of a parenthesis.”

John F. Walvoord, The Rapture Question.1979, p. 25

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I am asking you to address the post you are quoting.

Ligurian · Aug 21, 2022

Dan Perez said:
WHY ISREAL IS NOT PART OF THE BODY OF CHRIST .

Israel will never be part of the BODY of CHRIST , because Gal 3:28 says that they can not .

That theology doesn't exist in
the Gospel of the Kingdom of Heaven
for the Lost Sheep of the House of Israel.

HARK! · Aug 21, 2022

Dan Perez said:
Anyone who says they are , just present evidence and verses , that they are !!

Ephesians 2

11 Wherefore, remember that once you, the nations (Gentiles) in flesh - who are termed 'Uncircumcision' by those termed 'Circumcision,' in flesh, made by hands -"

Not anymore!

12 that you were, in that era, apart from Christ, being alienated from the citizenship of Israel, and guests of the promise covenants, having no expectation, and without God in the world."

Not anymore! Hmmm...covenants, plural.

13 Yet now, in Christ Jesus, you, who once are far off, are become near by the blood of Christ."

Citizens of Israel.

(CLV) Hb 8:10
"For this is the covenant which I shall be covenanting with the house of Israel after those days," the Lord is saying: "Imparting My laws to their comprehension, On their hearts, also, shall I be inscribing them, And I shall be to them for a God, And they shall be to Me for a people.

14 For He is our Peace, Who makes both one, and razes the central wall of the barrier"

No difference between those who were born into the false dogma of Judaism, and those who were born into the false teaching of Paganism. All of those in Yahshua are in the truth of YHWH's perfect Torah.

15 (the enmity in His flesh), nullifying the law of precepts in decrees, (dogma, Talmud) that He should be creating the two, in Himself, into one new humanity, making peace;"

Israel!

(CLV) Mt 15:24
Now He, answering, said, "I was not commissioned except for the lost sheep of the house of Israel."

16 and should be reconciling both in one body to God through the cross, killing the enmity in it."

(CLV) Num 15:15
As for the assembly, there shall be one statute for you and for the sojourner sojourning with you. It shall be an eonian (FOREVER) statute throughout your generations. Like you so shall the sojourner be before Yahweh.

17 And, coming, He brings the evangel of peace to you, those afar, and peace to those near, 18 for through Him we both have had access, in one spirit, to the Father." 19 Consequently, then, no longer are you guests and sojourners, but are fellow-citizens of the saints and belong to God's family,

Guojing · Aug 22, 2022

HARK! said:
13 Yet now, in Christ Jesus, you, who once are far off, are become near by the blood of Christ."

Citizens of Israel.

Is there anything in that passage Ephesians 2:11-13, that states that we gentiles "who become near by the blood of Christ" are now citizens of Israel, or is it your own interpretation that we are?

Are you assuming that, just because vs 12 stated we were "alienated from the citizenship of Israel", therefore vs 13 the term near must therefore mean we are now "citizens of Israel"?

HARK! · Aug 22, 2022

Guojing said:
Is there anything in that passage Ephesians 2:11-13, that states that we gentiles "who become near by the blood of Christ" are now citizens of Israel, or is it your own interpretation that we are?

Are you assuming that, just because vs 12 stated we were "alienated from the citizenship of Israel", therefore vs 13 the term near must therefore mean we are now "citizens of Israel"?

HARK! said:
(CLV) Mt 15:24
Now He, answering, said, "I was not commissioned except for the lost sheep of the house of Israel."

HARK! said:
17 And, coming, He brings the evangel of peace to you, those afar, and peace to those near, 18 for through Him we both have had access, in one spirit, to the Father." 19 Consequently, then, no longer are you guests and sojourners, but are fellow-citizens of the saints and belong to God's family,

YHWH's covenant is with Israel.

(CLV) Jer 31:33
For this is the covenant which I shall contract with the house of Israel after those days, averring is Yahweh: I will put My law within them, And I shall write it on their heart; I will become their Elohim, And they shall become My people.

Guojing · Aug 22, 2022

HARK! said:
YHWH's covenant is with Israel.

(CLV) Jer 31:33
For this is the covenant which I shall contract with the house of Israel after those days, averring is Yahweh: I will put My law within them, And I shall write it on their heart; I will become their Elohim, And they shall become My people.

Is it possible that the body of Christ might be a new creation and different from Israel, or do you think they must be the same?

WHY ISREAL IS NOT PART OF THE BODY OF CHRIST .

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