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KEEP this in mind. IF you don't count 120 contiguous days from Pentecost to the Day of atonement, then your understanding of how God's calendar works or how to count the Pentecost is in error.


Can you point out in the NT where it records that the day of Atonement was fulfilled 120 days after the day of Pentecost in the first century? The NT records the Spring feasts, and that they were fulfilled in the first century, but where does the NT record that the fall feasts were also fulfilled in the first century beginning 120 days after Pentecost?
 
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But we don't call someone that worked 40 hours over a 4 week period as having worked a 40 hour week.


That's true, yet it still equals 40 hours, regardless. Even if someone worked 1 hour each year for 40 years, it still equals 40 hours.

You break the 10 Jubilees to say that the 70th week is some period in the future. There is no way around that.

Only the parts of verse 27 that pertain to the 70th week are are part of it. Any of this splitting the week into parts where part is here and part in the future is nothing but confusion of which God is not the author of. The entire 70 week prophecy is a CONTIGUOUS event. And all the objects of that 70 weeks as laid out in 9:24 are accomplished in that period.

I agree "all the objects of that 70 weeks as laid out in 9:24 are accomplished in that period", except verse 27 only records 69 and 1/2 weeks thus far, if not all of it involves the 70th week. Where then do we find the missing half of the 70th week in Daniel 9 if some of you are insisting it's not recorded in verse 27, so that all of verse 24 involves an entire 70 weeks rather than only 69 and 1/2 weeks?
 
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That's true, yet it still equals 40 hours, regardless. Even if someone worked 1 hour each year for 40 years, it still equals 40 hours.



I agree "all the objects of that 70 weeks as laid out in 9:24 are accomplished in that period", except verse 27 only records 69 and 1/2 weeks thus far, if not all of it involves the 70th week. Where then do we find the missing half of the 70th week in Daniel 9 if some of you are insisting it's not recorded in verse 27, so that all of verse 24 involves an entire 70 weeks rather than only 69 and 1/2 weeks?

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There is no missing half of the week.
 
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Can you point out in the NT where it records that the day of Atonement was fulfilled 120 days after the day of Pentecost in the first century? The NT records the Spring feasts, and that they were fulfilled in the first century, but where does the NT record that the fall feasts were also fulfilled in the first century beginning 120 days after Pentecost?

Are you asking if the Jews observed the Fall Feasts in the first century AD - the answer is yes:

Joh_7:2 Now the Jews' feast of tabernacles was at hand.

If your asking if the Spiritual Fulfillment of those feasts have occurred the answer is not yet (at least not entirely).
 
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Jesus has authority over everything being the Lord.

But it is the applying of his authority such that the kings and peoples of the world conform to the will of God, that still awaits in bible prophecy.
I don’t want to get sidetracked or debate free will vs election; but it appears from your statement that people will not be able to use their free will during the millennium, instead they will be conformed to using Gods will.

Is this your view? If not can you clarify?
 
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Dan 9:27 AndG2532 he shall strengthenG1412 covenantG1242 with manyG4183 [2period of sevensG1439.1 1one];G1520 andG2532 inG1722 theG3588 halfG2255 of theG3588 period of sevenG1439.1 shall be lifted awayG142 sacrificeG2378 andG2532 libation offering,G4700.2 andG2532 uponG1909 theG3588 templeG2413 an abominationG946 of theG3588 desolationsG2050 will be;G1510.8.3 andG2532 untilG2193 theG3588 completionG4930 of time,G2540 completionG4930 shall be given
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There is no missing half of the week.


I don't get what you are getting at here, unfortunately.

Verse 24 involves an entire 70 weeks needed to accomplish those things. Verse 25 records 69 weeks. Verse 27 only records a half of a week according to some of you if not all of that verse is pertaining to the 70th week. The text in verse 24 does not say this---69 and 1/2 weeks are determined upon thy people and upon thy holy city, to finish the transgression---it says this instead---Seventy weeks are determined upon thy people and upon thy holy city, to finish the transgression.

Daniel 9:25 Know therefore and understand, that from the going forth of the commandment to restore and to build Jerusalem unto the Messiah the Prince shall be seven weeks, and threescore and two weeks: the street shall be built again, and the wall, even in troublous times.


This accounts for 69 of these 70 weeks.

Daniel 9:27 And he shall confirm the covenant with many for one week: and in the midst of the week he shall cause the sacrifice and the oblation to cease, and for the overspreading of abominations he shall make it desolate, even until the consummation, and that determined shall be poured upon the desolate.


This verse tells us that the one meant, he shall confirm the covenant with many for one week. Then it tells us what he does in the midst of the week. So what about in the final half of this week? Why would the text not bother to tell us what to expect in the final half of this week? Even verse 25 with the help of verse 26 tells us what ends the first 69 weeks, that being the Messiah being cut off. Verse 26 can maybe be understood like such---after the Messiah is cut off, this puts an end to the first 69 weeks. Something has to end the first 69 weeks. If it is not that, what is it then?
 
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I don’t want to get sidetracked or debate free will vs election; but it appears from your statement that people will not be able to use their free will during the millennium, instead they will be conformed to using Gods will.

Is this your view? If not can you clarify?


If Zechariah 14:16-19 involves a future millennium, even though the idea would be to conform to God's will, they obviously still have free will, otherwise they wouldn't be threatened with being punished if they fail to comply with what is commanded of them. And if Revelation 20:7-9 is also involving a time post Christ returning, this too shows they still have free will, otherwise how does one explain they get deceived?
 
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I don't get what you are getting at here, unfortunately.

Verse 24 involves an entire 70 weeks needed to accomplish those things. Verse 25 records 69 weeks. Verse 27 only records a half of a week according to some of you if not all of that verse is pertaining to the 70th week. The text in verse 24 does not say this---69 and 1/2 weeks are determined upon thy people and upon thy holy city, to finish the transgression---it says this instead---Seventy weeks are determined upon thy people and upon thy holy city, to finish the transgression.

Again, you have to think in terms of the weeks. So when we see that He shall strengthen the covenant one week - it doesn't mean duration. It means the context is on this last week.

Daniel 9:25 Know therefore and understand, that from the going forth of the commandment to restore and to build Jerusalem unto the Messiah the Prince shall be seven weeks, and threescore and two weeks: the street shall be built again, and the wall, even in troublous times.


This accounts for 69 of these 70 weeks.

Daniel 9:27 And he shall confirm the covenant with many for one week: and in the midst of the week he shall cause the sacrifice and the oblation to cease, and for the overspreading of abominations he shall make it desolate, even until the consummation, and that determined shall be poured upon the desolate.


This verse tells us that the one meant, he shall confirm the covenant with many for one week. Then it tells us what he does in the midst of the week. So what about in the final half of this week? Why would the text not bother to tell us what to expect in the final half of this week? Even verse 25 with the help of verse 26 tells us what ends the first 69 weeks, that being the Messiah being cut off. Verse 26 can maybe be understood like such---after the Messiah is cut off, this puts an end to the first 69 weeks. Something has to end the first 69 weeks. If it is not that, what is it then?



Everything mentioned in Daniel 9:26 is said to occur AFTER the 69 weeks. The other events in verse 26 continue even in type until 70 AD when the Temple is ultimately destroyed.

Everything in verse 24 is finished in the 70th week. It doesn't mean that things mentioned in this chapter are not continuing thereafter. BUT, the events of verse 24 are finished in the 70th week and that week is contiguous to the previous 69 weeks in its entirety.
 
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Are you asking if the Jews observed the Fall Feasts in the first century AD - the answer is yes:

Joh_7:2 Now the Jews' feast of tabernacles was at hand.

If your asking if the Spiritual Fulfillment of those feasts have occurred the answer is not yet (at least not entirely).


I'm meaning pertaining to how Christ fulfills them. He fulfilled the day of Pentecost after He had ascended, which then means the fall feasts follow that, except I don't see anything recorded in Acts or elsewhere that shows that Christ fulfilled the fall feasts also in the first century, meaning after, and not before, He fulfilled the day of Pentecost. This tells me that Christ fulfills the fall feasts in the future by His returning. Which means that some of Daniel 9:24 involves some things Christ fulfilled via His first coming, and the remaining He fulfills via His 2nd coming.
 
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I don't know how you reached the conclusion that the future AoD will occur in July 2027. I will not present any possible dates myself or accept anyone given as to when this prophecy will be fulfilled since the scripture expressly say that no one knows.

Also, it is a stretch to believe that the Catholic praxis of Holy Communion is the prophesied cessation of sacrifice.
The scriptures only say that no one will know the hour, day and time if Jesus's 2nd coming. It says nothing about translating the prophecies in the Bible and determining timelines based on the times stated in the Bible.
I have a complete timeline covering the end-time in my book that is 10 pages long. I understand your unwillingness to accept what I stated. I have not presented anything that will change your mind. However, it says in the Bible that the prophets who wrote the Bible were under the direct influence of Holy Spirit that guided their writing / visions ...
The only way that one can translate / interpret these prophecies is also under the influence of the Holy Spirit. It is only through divine guidance that one can interpret biblical prophecies correctly. I assert that I was under the divine guidance of the Holy Spirit when I translated the prophecies found in Daniel and Revelation.
 
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If Zechariah 14:16-19 involves a future millennium, even though the idea would be to conform to God's will, they obviously still have free will, otherwise they wouldn't be threatened with being punished if they fail to comply with what is commanded of them. And if Revelation 20:7-9 is also involving a time post Christ returning, this too shows they still have free will, otherwise how does one explain they get deceived?

God persuades through the elective conscience of people to believe in Him. Now some may say it is force but force would imply that you make a decision that is against your will or desire. Eventually, ALL shall desire His will. But even in the Millennium there are going to be those that have to desire Him. Remember, the type is set. God chose Israel (a type of the Entire World of which He would ultimately choose when grafting in the gentiles). Though God chose Israel it wasn't but the Levites that were serving Him. It was through the tribe of the Levites that the rest of the congregation of Israel would be atoned for. This is a TYPE. What is happening NOW is that the New Testament LEVITES (if you will) are being chosen now to be PRIESTS upon the coming of Christ to reign as kings and priest with Him to participate in the service of the Lord to atone for the rest of the entirety of Mankind.

We simply need to look at the type that God has set before us to understand it in a New Testament/Spiritual Perspective.
 
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If Zechariah 14:16-19 involves a future millennium, even though the idea would be to conform to God's will, they obviously still have free will, otherwise they wouldn't be threatened with being punished if they fail to comply with what is commanded of them. And if Revelation 20:7-9 is also involving a time post Christ returning, this too shows they still have free will, otherwise how does one explain they get deceived?
I agree; no matter where a person places the millennium it contains some people who seemingly don’t do the will of God. I say seemingly because I don’t think anyone can fully comprehend the will of God.
 
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I'm meaning pertaining to how Christ fulfills them. He fulfilled the day of Pentecost after He had ascended, which then means the fall feasts follow that, except I don't see anything recorded in Acts or elsewhere that shows that Christ fulfilled the fall feasts also in the first century, meaning after, and not before, He fulfilled the day of Pentecost. This tells me that Christ fulfills the fall feasts in the future by His returning. Which means that some of Daniel 9:24 involves some things Christ fulfilled via His first coming, and the remaining He fulfills via His 2nd coming.

Yes, correct, the fulfillment of those falls feasts will be Spiritually fulfilled when Christ returns.

But understand that this is being given to us to know. The Jubilees are meant to be counted down, this is why you count to Pentecost. Count this way:

Using a Lunar Calendar - the first month (lunar) is always when the passover occurs after the equinox and not before it. Why? (because the Passover represents a Triumph over darkness). It is at passover that the full moon comes and will shine from the moment the Sun sets to the moment the sun rises for the first time that year such as to displace all darkness from having dominion over the time.

So then Christ is risen on the Feast of FirstFruits (16th of the Lunar Month).

A Lunar month begins with a new moon BUT - THAT DAY IS not the first day of the week but only the first day of the month. Then you have 4 lunar weeks.
New moon - Day 1 of month
next day - Day 1 of first week
Sabbath - Day 8 of Month (day 7 of first lunar week).
Sabbath - Day 15 of month
Sabbath - Day 22 of month
Sabbath - Day 29 of Month.

So now you count from 16h (First fruits - day after a Sabbath - Unleavened Bread) by LUNAR weeks and you will count until 7 weeks are complete. Each week ending on a LUNAR Sabbath and then you will add one day which will ALWAYS bring you to the 9th day of the 3rd Lunar Month.

Then count from that day until the Day of Atonement (10 day of the 7th lunar month) and it will be 120 days exactly. That is how you truly count. Once you do this you will see some interesting things. Such as the fact then when you count from that day and reach the 60th day that day is 9th Av which if you know the 60th Jubilee was when the first temple was completed and so interesting when it was destroyed was on a day in the count that lands in accordance with a 60th Jubilee. Also, when we see Daniels 70 weeks command in Haggai we see the day:

Hag 1:1 In the second year of Darius the king, in the sixth month, in the first day of the month, came the word of the LORD by Haggai the prophet unto Zerubbabel the son of Shealtiel, governor of Judah, and to Joshua the son of Josedech, the high priest, saying,

If you do the count from Pentecost to Day of Atonement, you will see that the sixth month first day lands exactly on the 80th day in the count. Interestingly again, as the 70 weeks prophecy ends with the 80th Jubilee year. You see we can know these mysteries if you study and seek them out as I have. God has given me an ear to hear.
 
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He didn't. He revealed to me the date of September 2040 for 2nd Coming of Christ.
Hi Deafsilence,
I am really interested in how you came up with Sept 2040 for Jesus's 2nd coming, and how this was revealed to you.
For myself, my revelations were under the influence of the Holy Spirit.
My first interaction with the Holy Spirit occurred when I finally realized God existed. I had challenged God to prove himself to me and if he did I would be his warrior for truth.
After many small miracles, he proved himself completely: I was ranting to my girlfriend about faith, and how can anyone believe in something with no tangabilty. Suddenly my TV went blank and onto the screen typed:
FAITH. It was followed by the definition of faith. Then the original program came on again.
Well, I got down on my knees and cried 'I believe!', at which I was struck by a bolt of the most fabulous energy (the Holy Spirit). In that moment, for some unknown reason I asked God for the ability to translate biblical prophecy. I promptly went on with my life, realizing that God did exist, but not living up to my promise.
Many years later, I picked up the Bible and flipped to Revelation and read a prophetic passage; I was struck by that same energy coursing through my body, and instantly I knew exactly what that passage meant.
I have since written a book dedicated to translation of biblical prophecies, with a set of timelines included. Throughout the process I was filled with the energy of the Holy Spirit for hours every day. I researched and wrote for four months. I asked many questions of God, Jesus and the Holy Spirit and amazingly my questions were always answered immediately. Biblical texts would appear on my phone or a song would play, always along with the energy of the Holy Spirit.
The energy of the Holy Spirit is amazing. It provides a calm that overrides all else. It also carries with it emotion. Sometimes it is strong, other times it is light. Sometimes it is a sharp tingle which means anger, or is chastising me for my thoughts. Other times it is sorrowful, during which time I often cried uncontrollably. It was often happy and joyful, usually when a beautiful song was played, or I was reading a biblical passage about Jesus. It was periodically proud, but most of all came the feeling of truth; as when I would make a discovery to add to my book. I was never able to generate the energy of the Holy Spirit, it came at the volition of the Holy Spirit.
The moment I completed my book, a message appeared on my phone "Congratulations, you finished it!"
Since that time the Holy Spirit has spent far less time in my presence. I miss him terribly, but he has far more important things to do.
I have been blessed to be part of His divine plans but I was just an implement that He used to complete the necessary task to warn the next generation of the trials and tribulations to come.
 
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The 70th week obviously has an end, so why don't some of you point out in the text, in verse 27, the part involving the end? The midst of the week is not the end of the 70th week, so where is the end of the 70th week recorded in that verse?
v 27 has nothing to do with the 70th week.:idea:


26 Then after the sixty-two weeks, the Messiah will be cut off and have nothing, and the people of the prince who is to come will destroy the city and the sanctuary.
27 And he will confirm a covenant with the many for one week, but in the middle of the week he will put a stop to sacrifice and grain offering; and on the wing of abominations will come the one who makes desolate, until a complete destruction, one that is decreed, gushes forth on the one who makes desolate.”

In hindsight Jesus was cut off in the midst of the 70th week, then 40 years later the city and sanctuary were destroyed.

The Holy Spirit anointed Jesus in the first half of the Final week and the Holy Spirit anointed his disciples in the second half of the week. Full confirmation of the power of his blood to atone as the Holy Spirit is now equally given to the Gentiles.


25 So you are to know and understand that from the issuing of a decree to restore and rebuild Jerusalem, until Messiah the Prince, there will be seven weeks and sixty-two weeks; it will be built again, with streets and moat, even in times of distress.

Jesus atonement clearly takes in the 70th week as he is anointed AFTER THE 7 AND 62 WEEKS.
 
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Hi Deafsilence,
I am really interested in how you came up with Sept 2040 for Jesus's 2nd coming, and how this was revealed to you.
For myself, my revelations were under the influence of the Holy Spirit.
My first interaction with the Holy Spirit occurred when I finally realized God existed. I had challenged God to prove himself to me and if he did I would be his warrior for truth.
After many small miracles, he proved himself completely: I was ranting to my girlfriend about faith, and how can anyone believe in something with no tangabilty. Suddenly my TV went blank and onto the screen typed:
FAITH. It was followed by the definition of faith. Then the original program came on again.
Well, I got down on my knees and cried 'I believe!', at which I was struck by a bolt of the most fabulous energy (the Holy Spirit). In that moment, for some unknown reason I asked God for the ability to translate biblical prophecy. I promptly went on with my life, realizing that God did exist, but not living up to my promise.
Many years later, I picked up the Bible and flipped to Revelation and read a prophetic passage; I was struck by that same energy coursing through my body, and instantly I knew exactly what that passage meant.
I have since written a book dedicated to translation of biblical prophecies, with a set of timelines included. Throughout the process I was filled with the energy of the Holy Spirit for hours every day. I researched and wrote for four months. I asked many questions of God, Jesus and the Holy Spirit and amazingly my questions were always answered immediately. Biblical texts would appear on my phone or a song would play, always along with the energy of the Holy Spirit.
The energy of the Holy Spirit is amazing. It provides a calm that overrides all else. It also carries with it emotion. Sometimes it is strong, other times it is light. Sometimes it is a sharp tingle which means anger, or is chastising me for my thoughts. Other times it is sorrowful, during which time I often cried uncontrollably. It was often happy and joyful, usually when a beautiful song was played, or I was reading a biblical passage about Jesus. It was periodically proud, but most of all came the feeling of truth; as when I would make a discovery to add to my book. I was never able to generate the energy of the Holy Spirit, it came at the volition of the Holy Spirit.
The moment I completed my book, a message appeared on my phone "Congratulations, you finished it!"
Since that time the Holy Spirit has spent far less time in my presence. I miss him terribly, but he has far more important things to do.
I have been blessed to be part of His divine plans but I was just an implement that He used to complete the necessary task to warn the next generation of the trials and tribulations to come.

My experience is much different and not something appearing supernaturally in any way. It is more about knowing God and the more you seek to know Him and be true to the understanding, the more of Him is revealed to you. I understand that God is in complete control and I don't see a war between God and the Devil and wondering who is going to win. I even see the Devil as something completely different than most 'Christians'. The comfort of the Holy Spirit to me is like the comfort of who your parents are when you were a child. It is this confidence and the peace that comes from knowing they have your good intentions and your care in their power and you find their message as Truth. It is that way for me. Even though I don't see him - I see the message about Him everywhere. I know He exists and I feel His care for me. I really feel loved by Him and I believe He KNOWs that I love Him. I believe Christ my Lord Jesus is His Son, and that He has called me to emulate His Son as He has the others. In due time, I believe I will accomplish His will for me.

As for how I came to the date, I kept studying, and I believe God just revealed more and more details and I was then able to begin to put things together. For example, I believed in the 120 Jubilees before I knew there were 120 days between Pentecost and the Day of Atonement. However, when I understood what Pentecost meant, I KNEW there HAD TO BE 120 days between there and the Day of Atonement and it wasn't until I learned the proper count to Pentecost that the information came. So it is this way things are revealed to me. Additionally, like the understanding of the 9th of Ave being on the 60 day of that count and how the 80th day of the count is corresponding to the Command going forth. You just suddenly realize those things must correlate and then you see they did. When I found when Jesus was Crucified, I knew that I need to check Aries and see if Jupiter was there (and it was). I know that Jesus is coming back to His Church which is represented by the Lampstand. Those candlesticks were claimed by Philo, Josephus, Clement of Alexandria and others as correlating to each of the wandering stars (Mercury, Venus, Jupiter, Sun, Moon, Mars, Saturn). Those wandering stars all begin to move into Virgo in September of 2040 precisely at the time of the Festival of Trumpets and then unto the Day of Atonement. I knew by the examples of the Old Testament that they are a pattern to follow and that the dates, and times mean something. I knew that Moses being in the Wilderness meant that the Church of God under Christ would be 40 Jubilees in the Wilderness of this World before He returns. It is things like this that you just start to see and understand as God has given me based on my zeal for learning more about Him and His ways. I truly believe that if you want to know more - you must seek to know God and root out all contradictions and see to know what you think can't even be known. I now know why the Last Supper was a Passover meal. I know that Jesus was not in a tomb for 3 days and 3 nights. I know that Jesus was apprehended on the 10th of the Month and crucified on the 14th. That is much different than the traditional narrative. I know the date of the 8th of the Kalends of April for the Crucifixion of Christ as found in (one of the versions of the Acts of Pilate) is correct. That could also only be in 31 AD because of the necessity that it be in the count of the 40 years to the destruction of the Temple in 70 AD and that the 10th day of that month has to fall just after the Equinox (because that day was when the Last Supper/Passover meal) was ate. These things come to you through a closer relationship with God. Trust God.
 
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My experience is much different and not something appearing supernaturally in any way. It is more about knowing God and the more you seek to know Him and be true to the understanding, the more of Him is revealed to you. I understand that God is in complete control and I don't see a war between God and the Devil and wondering who is going to win. I even see the Devil as something completely different than most 'Christians'. The comfort of the Holy Spirit to me is like the comfort of who your parents are when you were a child. It is this confidence and the peace that comes from knowing they have your good intentions and your care in their power and you find their message as Truth. It is that way for me. Even though I don't see him - I see the message about Him everywhere. I know He exists and I feel His care for me. I really feel loved by Him and I believe He KNOWs that I love Him. I believe Christ my Lord Jesus is His Son, and that He has called me to emulate His Son as He has the others. In due time, I believe I will accomplish His will for me.

As for how I came to the date, I kept studying, and I believe God just revealed more and more details and I was then able to begin to put things together. For example, I believed in the 120 Jubilees before I knew there were 120 days between Pentecost and the Day of Atonement. However, when I understood what Pentecost meant, I KNEW there HAD TO BE 120 days between there and the Day of Atonement and it wasn't until I learned the proper count to Pentecost that the information came. So it is this way things are revealed to me. Additionally, like the understanding of the 9th of Ave being on the 60 day of that count and how the 80th day of the count is corresponding to the Command going forth. You just suddenly realize those things must correlate and then you see they did. When I found when Jesus was Crucified, I knew that I need to check Aries and see if Jupiter was there (and it was). I know that Jesus is coming back to His Church which is represented by the Lampstand. Those candlesticks were claimed by Philo, Josephus, Clement of Alexandria and others as correlating to each of the wandering stars (Mercury, Venus, Jupiter, Sun, Moon, Mars, Saturn). Those wandering stars all begin to move into Virgo in September of 2040 precisely at the time of the Festival of Trumpets and then unto the Day of Atonement. I knew by the examples of the Old Testament that they are a pattern to follow and that the dates, and times mean something. I knew that Moses being in the Wilderness meant that the Church of God under Christ would be 40 Jubilees in the Wilderness of this World before He returns. It is things like this that you just start to see and understand as God has given me based on my zeal for learning more about Him and His ways. I truly believe that if you want to know more - you must seek to know God and root out all contradictions and see to know what you think can't even be known. I now know why the Last Supper was a Passover meal. I know that Jesus was not in a tomb for 3 days and 3 nights. I know that Jesus was apprehended on the 10th of the Month and crucified on the 14th. That is much different than the traditional narrative. I know the date of the 8th of the Kalends of April for the Crucifixion of Christ as found in (one of the versions of the Acts of Pilate) is correct. That could also only be in 31 AD because of the necessity that it be in the count of the 40 years to the destruction of the Temple in 70 AD and that the 10th day of that month has to fall just after the Equinox (because that day was when the Last Supper/Passover meal) was ate. These things come to you through a closer relationship with God. Trust God.
Fascinating. I am happy that God is working through you. I know that our journeys are different, as are our findings, but it is for the love of God that we do this. Jesus is my Lord and Savior!
 
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Again, you have to think in terms of the weeks. So when we see that He shall strengthen the covenant one week - it doesn't mean duration. It means the context is on this last week.





Everything mentioned in Daniel 9:26 is said to occur AFTER the 69 weeks. The other events in verse 26 continue even in type until 70 AD when the Temple is ultimately destroyed.

Everything in verse 24 is finished in the 70th week. It doesn't mean that things mentioned in this chapter are not continuing thereafter. BUT, the events of verse 24 are finished in the 70th week and that week is contiguous to the previous 69 weeks in its entirety.


What event then is the sign that the first 69 weeks have concluded? Meaning something you can prove from Daniel chapter 9.
 
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What event then is the sign that the first 69 weeks have concluded? Meaning something you can prove from Daniel chapter 9.

The revealing of the Messiah according to John the Baptist.

25 So you are to know and understand that from the issuing of a decree to restore and rebuild Jerusalem, until Messiah the Prince, there will be seven weeks and sixty-two weeks; it will be built again, with streets and moat, even in times of distress.


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29 The next day he *saw Jesus coming to him, and *said, “Behold, the Lamb of God who takes away the sin of the world! 30 This is He in behalf of whom I said, ‘After me is coming a Man who has proved to be my superior, because He existed before me.’ 31 And I did not recognize Him, but so that He would be revealed to Israel, I came baptizing in water.” 32 And John testified, saying, “I have seen the Spirit descending as a dove out of heaven, and He remained upon Him. 33 And I did not recognize Him, but He who sent me to baptize in water said to me, ‘He upon whom you see the Spirit descending and remaining upon Him, this is the One who baptizes in the Holy Spirit.’ 34 And I myself have seen, and have testified that this is the Son of God.”
 
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