Senate Republicans try to head off attempts to include women in the military draft

Should women be forced to go to war?


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Just curious as to why you start a thread about women and the draft...and then assert the draft should be abolished all together.

... Because the draft should be abolished. Why drag women into this unjust practice?

If men and women feel the need to take up arms to protect their interests; let them make that choice for themselves. A well regulated militia is necessary for a free state; but you don't see me forcing people to carry a gun.
 
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... Because the draft should be abolished. Why drag women into this unjust practice?

If men and women feel the need to take up arms to protect their interests; let them make that choice for themselves. A well regulated militia is necessary for a free state; but you don't see me forcing people to carry a gun.

A well regulated militia for a free state is going to fight overseas? Right. Ok

Who cares if you don't force people to carry a gun? Why did this conversation turn into you and your guns?
 
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... Because the draft should be abolished. Why drag women into this unjust practice?

If men and women feel the need to take up arms to protect their interests; let them make that choice for themselves. A well regulated militia is necessary for a free state; but you don't see me forcing people to carry a gun.

...maybe if women are included, the end of the Selective Service will come sooner....
 
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A well regulated militia for a free state is going to fight overseas? Right. Ok

I don't plan on bombing innocent children in a far off land; because their government won't bow to our Imperialism.

When foreign soldiers set foot on my soil; I'll be prepared for them.
 
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...maybe if women are included, the end of the Selective Service will come sooner....

Throwing gasoline on the fire is not the most effective way to extinguish it.
 
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I don't plan on bombing innocent children in a far off land; because their government won't bow to our Imperialism.

When foreign soldiers set foot on my soil; I'll be prepared for them.

I see, then you really have no idea what a standing army is for.
 
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Finally, a relative question.

It has all been discussed. Please read back thought and find your answer.

I'm not interested in entertaining your wild goose chase.

If you have an answer; present it.
 
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I see, then you really have no idea what a standing army is for.

“A standing army is one of the greatest mischief that can possibly happen” -- James Madison

“Government is at best but an expedient; but most governments are usually, and all governments are sometimes, inexpedient. The objections which have been brought against a standing army, and they are many and weighty, and deserve to prevail, may also at last be brought against a standing government.” --Henry David Thoreau


"The means of defense against foreign danger historically have become the instruments of tyranny at home." --James Madison

"No nation could preserve its freedom in the midst of continual warfare."
— James Madison
 
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“A standing army is one of the greatest mischief that can possibly happen” -- James Madison

“Government is at best but an expedient; but most governments are usually, and all governments are sometimes, inexpedient. The objections which have been brought against a standing army, and they are many and weighty, and deserve to prevail, may also at last be brought against a standing government.” --Henry David Thoreau


"The means of defense against foreign danger historically have become the instruments of tyranny at home." --James Madison

"No nation could preserve its freedom in the midst of continual warfare."
— James Madison
That doesn't answer anything. We are living in a different time, and it is time to come up to date.
 
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You haven't worked out the numbers.

There are 2,000,000 new 18-year-olds every year. That's two million.

There are only 2,000,000 people in the current active-duty military force as it is. If you conscript an additional 2,000,000 men for a four-year tour every year, that will expand the active-duty force to eight million troops.

Worse, it will take more than that--probably up to 10,000,000 total--because all those added troops will require added services and support. For instance, the DoD is currently capable of handling 120,000 new accessions annually. If that must be expanded to 2,000,000 new accessions annually, training capacity (facilities, instructors, services, legal, medical) will have to be expanded accordingly.

And worse, there will be fully a million of them at any one time that aren't yet trained well enough for any purpose.

Wow, that is a whole lot of worse on top of worse.

But who said anything about 18 year olds? For that matter who said anything about any of the worst case scenarios you thought up?

All I said is that I think every able bodied man ought to serve. You got a whole lot out of that simples statement.
 
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I like the idea of an all volunteer force ( could not serve myself due to my CP though I wanted to so badly. Having said that, if you are going to have a draft either because we need people or because that is how this country were to decide to start doing it women need to be drafted along with men
 
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I say no, because some women are raise to believe. That they were born to have a bunch of kids, to serve their husband, and their God. Not all men should be drafted. Some are to weak and some men don't believe in war.
 
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