New--SDA General Conference Statement on EGW writings

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On June 9, the General Conference Session of Seventh-day Adventists voted to approve a new statement about the writings of Ellen White. You can find the entire statement in the record of business at this link.

Eleventh Business Meeting | Adventist Review

It indicates that Adventists see Ellen White's writings as an "inspired guide" to Bible passages.

We believe that the writings of Ellen G White were inspired by the Holy Spirit and are Christ centered and Bible based. Rather than replacing Scripture, they uplift its normative character, safeguard the Church from “every wind of doctrine” (Eph 4:14), and offer an inspired guide to Bible passages without exhausting their meaning or preventing further study. They also help us to overcome the human tendency to accept from the Bible what we like and to distort or disregard what we do not like.

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On June 9, the General Conference Session of Seventh-day Adventists voted to approve a new statement about the writings of Ellen White. You can find the entire statement in the record of business at this link.

Eleventh Business Meeting | Adventist Review

It indicates that Adventists see Ellen White's writings as an "inspired guide" to Bible passages.

We believe that the writings of Ellen G White were inspired by the Holy Spirit and are Christ centered and Bible based. Rather than replacing Scripture, they uplift its normative character, safeguard the Church from “every wind of doctrine” (Eph 4:14), and offer an inspired guide to Bible passages without exhausting their meaning or preventing further study. They also help us to overcome the human tendency to accept from the Bible what we like and to distort or disregard what we do not like.

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What is new about this statement? What did they say before?
 
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What is new about this statement?


Much of the content of the statement is not new. The part I am not sure was ever included in official statements before is inspired guide to Bible passages.
 
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What did they say before?

Here are some other official statements:

https://szu.adventist.org/wp-content/uploads/2016/04/28_Beliefs.pdf

The Gift of Prophecy
The Scriptures testify that one of the gifts of the Holy Spirit is prophecy. This gift is an identifying mark of the remnant church and we believe it was manifested in the ministry of Ellen G. White. Her writings speak with prophetic authority and provide comfort, guidance, instruction, and correction to the church. They also make clear that the Bible is the standard by which all teaching and experience must be tested. (Num. 12:6; 2 Chron. 20:20; Amos 3:7; Joel 2:28, 29; Acts 2:14-21; 2 Tim. 3:16, 17; Heb. 1:1-3; Rev. 12:17; 19:10; 22:8, 9.)


Statement of Confidence in the Writings of Ellen G White - Adventist.org
(see link for full statement)

We reaffirm our conviction that her writings are divinely inspired, truly Christ-centered, and Bible-based. Rather than replacing the Bible, they uplift the normative character of Scripture and correct inaccurate interpretations of it derived from tradition, human reason, personal experience, and modern culture.
 
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Much of the statement is not new. The part I am not sure was ever included in official statements before is inspired guide to Bible passages.

So what? Is not prophecy a spiritual gift given to the Church? *Romans 12:6, 1 Corinthians 12:28, 29; 13:1-3, 8; 14:6, and in Ephesians 4:11. Actually on this topic having an understanding of the prophecies is one of the distinguishing signs of Gods' true Church just prior to the second coming *see Revelation 12:17; Revelation 14:12 compare Revelation 19:10. What is not biblical here? - Nothing.
 
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So it is news.

Is not prophecy a spiritual gift given to the Church?.

Yes prophecy is a spiritual gift.

Perhaps you could tell us more about how Adventists use Ellen White's writings as an inspired guide to Bible passages, or how they use them to correct inaccurate interpretations of Scripture.
 
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So it is news.



Yes prophecy is a spiritual gift.

Perhaps you could tell us more about how Adventists use Ellen White's writings as an inspired guide to Bible passages, or how they use them to correct inaccurate interpretations of Scripture.
No problem. EGW points everyone back to the bible to seek to know Jesus through His Word and calls everyone out from following man-made teachings and traditions that lead us away from Gods' Word to break the commandments of God and that God's people are in every Church *John 10:16 who are living up to all the knowledge that God has revealed to them. Many from these Church's will hear His voice (the Word) and follow Him *John 10:26 and that the hour is coming and now is that the true worshipers will worship the father in Spirit and in truth and that God is a Spirit and those who worship Him must worship Him in Spirit and in truth *John 4:23-24 and that faith in God's Word is the only place we can find salvation. Sadly though many will be called but only the few will be chosen *Matthew 22:14. Those who hear and follow God's Word according to Jesus are God's sheep *John 10:26. The many that are called however and are not the chosen will not hear His voice (the Word) and follow Him who calls us but will in the last days rise up against God's Word because they are not His sheep *John 10:26-27. The question we must all ask ourselves therefore is whose side are we on; the many that are called or the few who are chosen? *Matthew 22:14. So in short she only points everyone back to the pure Word of God we have all departed from for that is where our salvation is found and that is where we find Jesus through His Spirit *Ephesians 2:8; 2 Timothy 3:15-16; John 3:36; Romans 10:17; Romans 14:23; Hebrews 11:6; 1 John 5:2-4; 1 John 2:3-4; Revelation 14:12 see also John 14:26; John 16:13; John 7:17; 1 John 2:27; John 8:31-34.
 
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No problem. EGW points everyone back to the bible to seek to know Jesus through His Word and calls everyone out from following man-made teachings and traditions that lead us away from Gods' Word to break the commandments of God and that God's people are in every Church who will hear His voice and follow Him and that the hour is coming and now is that the true worshipers will worship the father in Spirit and in truth and that God is a Spirit and those who worship Him must worship Him in Spirit and in truth *John 4:23-24 and that there is only salvation by faith in Gods' Word alone. Sadly though many will be called but only the few will be chosen. Those who hear and follow God's Word according to Jesus are God's sheep the many that are called however and are not the chosen will not hear His voice (the Word) and follow it but will in the last days rise up against it because they are not His sheep *John 10:26-27. The question we must all ask ourselves is whose side are we on; the many that are called or the few who are chosen? *Matthew 22:14. So in short she only points everyone back to the pure Word of God we have all departed from for that is where our salvation is found *Ephesians 2:8; 2 Timothy 3:15-16; John 3:36; Romans 10:17; Romans 14:23; Hebrews 11:6; 1 John 5:2-4; 1 John 2:3-4; Revelation 14:12.

So if you had an understanding of a particular Scripture passage, but Ellen White said it meant something else, would you then bring your interpretation of Scripture into line with the inspired guide which corrects inaccurate interpretations?
 
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So if you had an understanding of a particular Scripture passage, but Ellen White said it meant something else, would you then bring your interpretation of Scripture into line with the inspired guide which corrects inaccurate interpretations?

EGW only points everyone to the bible. Let's talk scripture (Romans 3:4)?
 
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EGW only points everyone to the bible. Let's talk scripture?

So you would not correct your view of a Scripture passage if it was different than the inspired guide to Bible passages that corrects inaccurate interpretations?
 
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No problem. EGW points everyone back to the bible to seek to know Jesus through His Word and calls everyone out from following man-made teachings and traditions that lead us away from Gods' Word to break the commandments of God and that God's people are in every Church who will hear His voice and follow Him and that the hour is coming and now is that the true worshipers will worship the father in Spirit and in truth and that God is a Spirit and those who worship Him must worship Him in Spirit and in truth *John 4:23-24 and that there is only salvation by faith in Gods' Word alone. Sadly though many will be called but only the few will be chosen. Those who hear and follow God's Word according to Jesus are God's sheep the many that are called however and are not the chosen will not hear His voice (the Word) and follow it but will in the last days rise up against it because they are not His sheep *John 10:26-27. The question we must all ask ourselves is whose side are we on; the many that are called or the few who are chosen? *Matthew 22:14. So in short she only points everyone back to the pure Word of God we have all departed from for that is where our salvation is found *Ephesians 2:8; 2 Timothy 3:15-16; John 3:36; Romans 10:17; Romans 14:23; Hebrews 11:6; 1 John 5:2-4; 1 John 2:3-4; Revelation 14:12.
This is the work of the Holy Spirit Not EG White..

John 14:26.."But the Advocate, the Holy Spirit, whom the Father will send in my name will "teach" you in ALL things and will "Remind" You EVERYTHING I have said to you....
 
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Let's talk scripture?

If Ellen White corrects inaccurate interpretations of Scripture, isn't that related to talking Scripture for Adventists? If you have questions on a Bible text do you consult the inspired guide?
 
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So you would not correct your view of a Scripture passage if it was different than the inspired guide to Bible passages that corrects inaccurate interpretations?
According to the scriptures none of us can know God's Word unless God is our guide and teacher *see John 16:13; John 7:17; John 14:26; 1 John 2:27 and God only gives His Spirit to those who obey him *see Acts of the Apostles 5:29-31. Something to pray about I guess.
 
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This is the work of the Holy Spirit Not EG White..

John 14:26.."But the Advocate, the Holy Spirit, whom the Father will send in my name will "teach" you in ALL things and will "Remind" You EVERYTHING I have said to you....
No one said that prophets take the role of the holy spirit. So what is your argument. You have none. According to the scriptures however, we only get God's Spirit by believing and following what God's Word says according to the scriptures *see Acts of the Apostles 5:29-31
 
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If Ellen White corrects inaccurate interpretations of Scripture, isn't that related to talking Scripture for Adventists? If you have questions on a Bible text do you consult the inspired guide?
I want to talk scripture. You want to talk EGW. This is normally the case in most of our discussions. I see God through His Words and this is where we find Jesus who is Gods' truth that saves us *John 17:17. It is the Spirit the quickens says Jesus the flesh profits nothing. The Words that I speak unto you they are Spirit and they are life - John 6:63. This is the only place EGW pointed me to and this is the only place I point others to. Lets talk scripture.
 
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According to the scriptures none of us can know God's Word unless God is our guide and teacher *see John 16:13; John 7:17; John 14:26; 1 John 2:27 and God only gives His Spirit to those who obey him *see Acts of the Apostles 5:29-31. Something to pray about I guess.

I am not sure that answered the question. If Ellen White is inspired, and an inspired guide to Bible passages, would you not change your view of a Bible passage if she indicates it meant something other than your view?

Would you change you view of a Scripture passage if it was different than Ellen White's, since her writings correct inaccurate interpretations, and are an inspired guide to Bible passages?

And if you don't use her writings for the purposes spelled out in the statement, perhaps a different Adventist can clarify. There must be quite a few who think it worthwhile to put it in an official statement.
 
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I am not sure that answered the question. If Ellen White is inspired, and an inspired guide to Bible passages, would you not change your view of a Bible passage if she indicates it meant something other than your view?

Would you change you view of a Scripture passage if it was different than Ellen White's, since her writings correct inaccurate interpretations, and are an inspired guide to Bible passages?

And if you don't use her writings for the purposes spelled out in the statement, perhaps a different Adventist can clarify. There must be quite a few who think it worthwhile to put it in an official statement.
As posted earlier I am not interested in talking EGW unsupported by the scritures. I am only correcting misinformation. We should only point others to Gods' Word. You want to talk EGW I want to talk scripture. Your thread is about EGW being inspired, you were provided scripture from *Romans 12:6, 1 Corinthians 12:28, 29; 13:1-3, 8; 14:6, and in Ephesians 4:11 and Revelation 12:17; Revelation 14:12 compare Revelation 19:10. showing that Gods' Church prior to the second coming has prophets inspired by God's Word pointing only to God's Word. So what is your problem?
 
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I want to talk scripture. You want to talk EGW. This is normally the case in most of our discussion..

I think people wind up talking about Ellen White with Adventists because they keep making official statements about her writings, and informing us of their use. And they say that part of that use is as an inspired guide to Bible passages or correcting inaccurate interpretations.

I don't consider Ellen White inspired. So I don't use her that way. But are you saying no Adventist uses her writings that way? Then why do they keep making these official statements indicating these things?

When I mention her words to Adventists it is to point out Adventist teaching on a particular subject. Because they see her as inspired.
 
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As posted earlier I am not interested in talking EGW. I am only correcting misinformation. We should only point others to Gods' Word. You want to talk EGW I want to talk scripture.

Apparently the GC session wantrd to talk about Ellen White as well. And Adventists often talk about her in other venues. Why do you think there is such a reluctance to talk about her here, but not such to talk about her in the GC session?

If you don't want to talk about the subject of the thread, the official statement by your denomination regarding Ellen White's writings, why are you posting in the thread?
 
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