If UFO's are proven to be 100% real, what happens to your faith?

Petros2015 said:

I'm with Lewis on this one; this is his essay "Religion and Rocketry" 1958. It holds just fine today.

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AFAICS, the analysis by Lewis has yet to be equalled, let alone bettered. He clearly had the gift of wisdom in a very great degree.

Davy said:

First of all, the Revelation 12:7-12 Scripture reveals towards the end of this world, Satan and his angels will be booted out of the Heavenly down to this earth where we are. That's the result of that future war in Heaven they will loose with Archangel Michael.

Daniel 12:1 also reveals that future event of Satan and his angels being kicked out of the Heavenly for the time of great tribulation.

Lord Jesus revealed it here too...

Matt 24:37-39
37 But as the days of Noe were, so shall also the coming of the Son of man be.
38 For as in the days that were before the flood they were eating and drinking, marrying and giving in marriage, until the day that Noe entered into the ark,
39 And knew not until the flood came, and took them all away; so shall also the coming of the Son of man be.
KJV

Who especially per Genesis 6 was doing that "marrying and giving in marriage"? These...

Gen 6:2
2 That the sons of God saw the daughters of men that they were fair; and they took them wives of all which they chose.
KJV

Gen 6:4
4 There were giants in the earth in those days; and also after that, when the sons of God came in unto the daughters of men, and they bare children to them, the same became mighty men which were of old, men of renown.
KJV

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That is a very interesting point of view from which to understand Genesis 6. Nice.

Jipsah said:

Zilch. The existence or lack thereof of sentient life "out there" has as much relevance as did the existence of human beings in North America to the early Church. Which is to say none at all.

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An excellent analogy. That the Prophets, Jesus, Apostles, Fathers & succeeding Christian generations did not so much as suspect the existence of the American tribes, of the Amerindians, of the Japanese, or of the Maori, does not affect, let alone invalidate, the Christian revelation.

The Universal Kingship of Christ is not invalidated by ignorance of its existence. If that applies to peoples on Earth, why does it not apply with equal force to whatever creatures may exist on other planets.

Supposing there are Romulans, & that they are in need of salvation: why can the salvation worked by the God-man on behalf of mankind, on Earth, not avail for Romulans as well ? After all, the saving work of Christ is supposed to be of infinite worth and power, so as to be sufficient for a trillion worlds, supposing them to exist & to need salvation.

And does the Work of Christ as Renewer not extend to all creatures on Earth ? If lions, lambs, serpents, birds and other, Earthly, creatures are beneficiaries of the Work of Christ (as Romans 8 & Isaiah 65 seem to suggest), then why should creatures on other planets - supposing them to exist - not also benefit from it ?

In a perfectly renewed creation, will not non-human animals be as fully restored from the "futility" & sin that presently wounds creation as fully as mankind will be ? Surely an adequate doctrine about God's creation needs to have room for the entirety of what God has created, and not for men and angels & Earth alone.

If the Three Holy Children in (deutero-canonical) Daniel 3 had known about neutrinos or supernovae, they would presumably have called upon them, too, to praise God; as would the Psalmist in Psalm 148.

The Song of the Three Holy Children AKA the Benedicite:

Benedicite, omnia opera.

O ALL ye Works of the Lord, bless ye the Lord : praise him, and magnify him for ever.
O ye Angels of the Lord, bless ye the Lord : praise him, and magnify him for ever.
O ye Heavens, bless ye the Lord : praise him, and magnify him for ever.
O ye Waters that be above the firmament, bless ye the Lord : praise him, and magnify him for ever.
O all ye Powers of the Lord, bless ye the Lord : praise him, and magnify him for ever.
O ye Sun and Moon, bless ye the Lord : praise him, and magnify him for ever.
O ye Stars of heaven, bless ye the Lord : praise him, and magnify him for ever.
O ye Showers and Dew, bless ye the Lord : praise him, and magnify him for ever.
O ye Winds of God, bless ye the Lord : praise him, and magnify him for ever.
O ye Fire and Heat, bless ye the Lord : praise him, and magnify him for ever.
O ye Winter and Summer, bless ye the Lord : praise him, and magnify him for ever.
O ye Dews and Frosts, bless ye the Lord : praise him, and magnify him for ever.
O ye Frost and Cold, bless ye the Lord : praise him, and magnify him for ever.
O ye Ice and Snow, bless ye the Lord : praise him, and magnify him for ever.
O ye Nights and Days, bless ye the Lord : praise him, and magnify him for ever.
O ye Light and Darkness, bless ye the Lord : praise him, and magnify him for ever.
O ye Lightnings and Clouds, bless ye the Lord : praise him, and magnify him for ever.
O let the Earth bless the Lord : yea, let it praise him, and magnify him for ever.
O ye Mountains and Hills, bless ye the Lord : praise him, and magnify him for ever.
O all ye Green Things upon the earth, bless ye the Lord : praise him, and magnify him for ever.
O ye Wells, bless ye the Lord : praise him, and magnify him for ever.
O ye Seas and Floods, bless ye the Lord : praise him, and magnify him for ever.
O ye Whales, and all that move in the waters, bless ye the Lord : praise him, and magnify him for ever.
O all ye Fowls of the air, bless ye the Lord : praise him, and magnify him for ever.
O all ye Beasts and Cattle, bless ye the Lord : praise him, and magnify him for ever.
O ye Children of Men, bless ye the Lord : praise him, and magnify him for ever.
O let Israel bless the Lord : praise him, and magnify him for ever.
O ye Priests of the Lord, bless ye the Lord : praise him, and magnify him for ever.
O ye Servants of the Lord, bless ye the Lord : praise him, and magnify him for ever.
O ye Spirits and Souls of the Righteous, bless ye the Lord : praise him, and magnify him for ever.
O ye holy and humble Men of heart, bless ye the Lord : praise him, and magnify him for ever.
O Ananias, Azarias, and Misael, bless ye the Lord : praise him, and magnify him for ever.
Glory be to the Father, and to the Son : and to the Holy Ghost;
As it was in the beginning, is now, and ever shall be : world without end. Amen.

Basil the Great said:

If the the U.S. government were to ever publicly admit that UFO's are indeed visitors from space and that they have visited the Earth in recent years,

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God is able to have living beings elsewhere in the universe. But I do not think it is scientifically sure that you can move UFO's so many light years from elsewhere and still have them able to function and to have their operators stay alive.

Therefore, I would not say any government could "admit" they have withheld information . . . about the existence of something which does not exist.

In case some being really did show up from . . . elsewhere . . . I would simply check what that being communicates, and compare it with the Bible and my actual experience of God and however God were to give me input about it.

And in case the being denied things in the Bible, I know there is such a thing as lying; I would not assume the visitor was telling the truth.

Basil the Great said:

Since quite a few here at CF are totally convinced that aliens have not visited the Earth, I have a question. If the the U.S. government were to ever publicly admit that UFO's are indeed visitors from space and that they have visited the Earth in recent years, what impact would such have upon your faith, if any?

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None what so ever.

My faith and belief in God is unbreakable. I would die for my faith in God.

ChetSinger said:

Let's take a breath. Here's another picture pulled from ANE iconography in my previous link. It's a platform with four winged creatures, and wheels:

If you browse through the text and pictures you'll find similar things. Ezekiel's vision fits the iconography of his time, without being a spacecraft. From the text:

Ezekiel was borrowing divine images familiar to the Babylonians (and which exiled Jews would no doubt see) to "inform" his audience that the God of Israel was the true God and still active (i.e., HE, YHWH, was still enthroned on the cherubim, not some Babylonian god, despite Israel's circumstances).​

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There is a ton of such imagery from Babylonia and other ANE cultures, covering a span of about 3,000 years. Ezekiel was a Jewish exile in Babylonia, along with other Jewish exiles in Babylonia. They lived in the Ancient Near East, thought like people of the ANE, expressed themselves in ANE categories, were influenced by ANE ideas. A 20th-century scientific worldview would probably be as alien to Ezekiel as flying saucers would be to us, so the cherubim in Ezekiel's visions should be explained/accounted for from within his, ANE, Jewish, OT, worldview; not from within ours.

0 impact on my faith. It wouldn't even surprise me, we know we are headed into times of all sorts of phenomenon. It might even strengthen my faith in the true and living God if there were an impact. It also would tell me that my government is either lying to me or they already had been for 70 years or there abouts of my life, denying such activity. To which neither of those would be any surprise either.

Jesus Christ is the way the truth and life, nothing changes that. I know it my heart of hearts.

Jipsah said:

Really? Where does it say that?

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Ezekiel's vision of God's chariot in Ezekiel 1 is often touted by esoteric types to suggest some kind of ancient hi-tech.

Jipsah said:

Which has precisely what to do with the existence of non-angelic life elsewhere in the universe?

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No such thing as "non-angelic life elsewhere in the universe". Just because the science of probability allows it does not make it true. God's Word does not reveal any such idea either.

Sorry mate, but the Bible says nothing of space aliens. Still no evidence.

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That's exactly right. And I never said aliens were real. I support that the UFO's are either aircraft that men have secretly built, or they are craft flown by angels bleeding in and out of our earthly dimension.

Basil the Great said:

Since quite a few here at CF are totally convinced that aliens have not visited the Earth, I have a question. If the the U.S. government were to ever publicly admit that UFO's are indeed visitors from space and that they have visited the Earth in recent years, what impact would such have upon your faith, if any?

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If the government was to admit to such a thing it would only mean that the government is as fallible as all the other believers of such a thing If the devil can trick you he can trick the powers to be as well. Don't be fooled by the devil or the government. No aliens only angels.

I always liked C.S. Lewis’ take on the subject. He speculated that IF God created intelligent life outside of Earth and IF that life was not tainted by the fall of Adam, then they would want to have NOTHING to do with Earth … we would be a dangerous quarantined world overrun with deadly sin.

ewq1938 said:

Angels are aliens by definition as they did not originate from the Earth.

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That is true to some extent but the fallen angels would like to convince us that they are fiscal entities from another planet and not the fallen angels that they are. You must remember that the devil and the rest of the fallen angels are well rehearsed in deception, not the truth.

"If UFO's are proven to be 100% real, what happens to your faith?"

Depending on how they feel about us, I imagine we start praying more, not less lol

ewq1938 said:

They are more likely to claim to be Gods than creatures from a far away planet.

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The problem there is that people are claiming to have had visitation from aliens in spaceships, not self proclaimed gods.

ewq1938 said:

The bible doesn't say humans and angels are the only life forms God created.

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If the bible doesn't mention something then that would mean it does not exist or it is not of importance. If alien beings from other world were visiting us and doing the things that experiencers report then that would be of great importance and God would have warned us of this intrusion well surprise surprise the bible does warn us God has made it clear that the devil is the great deceiver and Jesus is our saviour, not ET.

Basil the Great said:

Since quite a few here at CF are totally convinced that aliens have not visited the Earth, I have a question. If the the U.S. government were to ever publicly admit that UFO's are indeed visitors from space and that they have visited the Earth in recent years, what impact would such have upon your faith, if any?

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Some of the answers I see concern me but I love the question. I`ll answer with scripture. Hope that doesn't offend anyone.

Matthew 24:24
For there shall arise false Christs, and false prophets, and shall shew great signs and wonders; insomuch that, if it were possible, they shall deceive the very elect.

2 Thessalonians 2:11
And for this cause God shall send them strong delusion, that they should believe a lie: