Do you think we are very near the tribulation period?

I think we are near

Midnight strikes the Bridegroom will appear to take wise virgins to the wedding but the foolish are left behind.

Fish55 said:

Hello fellow Christians. Do you think we are near the tribulation period or are already in the tribulation period?

Thank you. May the grace of our Lord Jesus Christ be with you.

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No, I don't.

However, I can see how for decades now, it probably looks that way in many countries. Global politics is a mess, and goods have become scarce and overpriced.

Michael Collum said:

No, I don't.

However, I can see how for decades now, it probably looks that way in many countries. Global politics is a mess, and goods have become scarce and overpriced.

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Just curious. If you don't feel we are close to it. How far from now do you feel we are from it yet then?

Fish55 said:

Hello fellow Christians. Do you think we are near the tribulation period or are already in the tribulation period?

Thank you. May the grace of our Lord Jesus Christ be with you.

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no not yet. I imagine it has to get alot worse. I feel like humanity has been in much worse times before.

plunkcat said:

no not yet. I imagine it has to get alot worse. I feel like humanity has been in much worse times before.

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That is true. Just most the people currently alive haven't really dealt with anything like what has been going on. The guys that make the BibleProject videos made a video on this before. Rather interesting their take on it actually.

revybub said:

That is true. Just most the people currently alive haven't really dealt with anything like what has been going on. The guys that make the BibleProject videos made a video on this before. Rather interesting their take on it actually.

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I watch those guys sometimes but im not sure of the video you are referencing. If you remember, could you post the link?

plunkcat said:

I watch those guys sometimes but im not sure of the video you are referencing. If you remember, could you post the link?

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Ya if I run into it again. I will post it. I watch so many videos every day because of my work. It would take a while to find it.

Fish55 said:

Hello fellow Christians. Do you think we are near the tribulation period or are already in the tribulation period?

Thank you. May the grace of our Lord Jesus Christ be with you.

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Define the tribulation period.

If you mean this: "For then there will be a great tribulation, such as has not occurred since the beginning of the world until now, nor ever will again (Mat. 24:21)," then I believe the great tribulation has already passed. Matthew 24:21 follows Matthew 24:15–20, which describes the abomination of desolation. The AoD 1) is a future event from Jesus' time: "Therefore when you see the abomination of desolation (Mat. 24:15a);" 2) stands in the holy place: "which was spoken of through Daniel the prophet, standing in the holy place (Mat. 24:15b);" 3) and made the sanctuary desolate: "and on the wing of abominations will come the one who makes desolate, until a complete destruction, one that is decreed, gushes forth on the one who makes desolate (Dan. 9:27b)."

Two abominations come to mind: the destruction of the Second Temple in AD 70 and the construction of the Dome of the Rock in AD 688. The abomination that came on the wing of the others was the Dome of the Rock.

Dan. 12:1–4 gave another look at the great tribulation:

“Now at that time Michael, the great prince who stands guard over the sons of your people, will arise. And there will be a time of distress such as never occurred since there was a nation until that time; and at that time your people, everyone who is found written in the book, will be rescued. And many of those who sleep in the dust of the ground will awake, these to everlasting life, but the others to disgrace and everlasting contempt. And those who have insight will shine like the glow of the expanse of heaven, and those who lead the many to righteousness, like the stars forever and ever. But as for you, Daniel, keep these words secret and seal up the book until the end of time; many will roam about, and knowledge will increase.”

Then Dan. 12:5–7a gives a timeframe for this to happen:

"Then I, Daniel, looked, and behold, two others were standing, one on this bank of the stream and the other on that bank of the stream. And someone said to the man dressed in linen, who was above the waters of the stream, “How long will it be until the end of these wonders?” And I heard the man dressed in linen, who was above the waters of the stream, as he raised his right hand and his left toward heaven, and swore by Him who lives forever that it would be for a time, times, and half a time."

The starting point is the same as the one for Dan. 12:11: "And from the time that the regular sacrifice is abolished and the abomination of desolation is set up..." The regular sacrifice was abolished after Christ's crucifixion because there was no longer any need for it. The AoD was set up in AD 688 when the Dome of the Rock was constructed.

"A time, times, and half a time" = 1 year + 2 years + 1/2 year
= 3 1/2 years
x 12 mo./yr.
42 months
x 30 days/yr.
= 1,260 days

One day = 1 year in prophetic time (Eze. 4:4–8; Dan. 9:24–27), so 1,260 days = 1,260 years.

It was 1,260 years from AD 688 to 1948, the Israeli Declaration of Independence.

Next, it was 1,290 years from AD 688 to 1978, the Camp David Accords (Dan. 12:11).

And finally, it will be 1,335 years from AD 688 to 2023—next year!!! (Dan. 12:12). What will happen?

The great tribulation followed the abomination of desolation in AD 688 and will precede the glorious return (Mat. 24:29–31). After the great tribulation, a solar eclipse and lunar tetrad appeared in the sky between 2014 and 2015 (https://www.washingtonpost.com/nati...b76502-c4be-11e3-9ee7-02c1e10a03f0_story.html). Then Virgo, clothed with the sun, and the moon under her feet, and Leo with Mercury, Venus, and Mars on her head, appeared in the sky on Sep. 23, 2017:


"But immediately after the tribulation of those days the sun will be darkened, and the moon will not give its light, and the stars will fall from the sky, and the powers of the heavens will be shaken. And then the sign of the Son of Man will appear in the sky, and then all the tribes of the earth will mourn, and they will see the Son of Man coming on the clouds of the sky with power and great glory. And He will send forth His angels with a great trumpet blast, and they will gather together His elect from the four winds, from one end of the sky to the other (Mat. 24:29–31)."

All that's left are the two witnesses and the revealing of the antichrist.

Tribulation has been on going since the birth of Christianity.

Lost4words said:

Tribulation has been on going since the birth of Christianity.

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But not THE GREAT tribulation. This is mentioned in Mat. 24:21, Luk. 21:23, and Rev. 7:14.

WhoIsLikeGod? said:

But not THE GREAT tribulation. This is mentioned in Mat. 24:21, Luk. 21:23, and Rev. 7:14.

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Define great. Many massive tribulations have happened since the scriptures were written.

What signs indicate that the end times are approaching? | GotQuestions.org

the scripture passage it quoted was

Matthew 24:5-8

5 For many will come in my name, claiming, ‘I am the Messiah,’ and will deceive many. 6 You will hear of wars and rumors of wars, but see to it that you are not alarmed. Such things must happen, but the end is still to come. 7 Nation will rise against nation, and kingdom against kingdom. There will be famines and earthquakes in various places. 8 All these are the beginning of birth pains

I am not seeing any of this now

Guess we see different things.

David Shayler is on youtube and says he's the Messiah

wars and rumors of war:
such as Russia/Ukraine, Mozambique, Libya, Afghanistan and additional terrorists uprisings

about half of the US is in drought, millions starving in Africa, Nigeria, Yemen

earthquakes in 2022 includes a 6.3 earthquake south of the Fiji Islands, a 6.1 in Philippines and a 6.8 in Argentina

revybub said:

Just curious. If you don't feel we are close to it. How far from now do you feel we are from it yet then?

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The next node in history is around 200 years from now, it's a transitional era. I'm not sure when the end is.

Fish55 said:

Hello fellow Christians. Do you think we are near the tribulation period or are already in the tribulation period?

Thank you. May the grace of our Lord Jesus Christ be with you.

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Very near!

We are very close to the tribulation, but it hasn't happened yet.

tturt said:

Guess we see different things.

David Shayler is on youtube says he's the Messiah

wars and rumors of war:
such as Russia/Ukraine, Mozambique, Libya, Afghanistan and additional terrorists uprisings

about half of the US is in drought, millions starving in Africa, Nigeria, Yemen

earthquakes in 2022 includes a 6.3 earthquake south of the Fiji Islands, 6.1 in Philippines and 6.8 in Argentina

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on the subject of people who claim to be false Messiahs, I admit I have not been following on this topic at all.

so I did a quick search using Wikipedia, it gives a long list of Christian messiah claimants, start with Ang Lee who was born in 1736 to Alan John Miller who was born back in 1962, so it seems Christian messiah claimants is not a phenomenon that only happened very recently.

as far as the other three subjects goes, well, wars have always existed, some at a much larger scales such as first world war and second world war.

famines have always existed, including large scales famines in the 20th century.

earthquakes have always existed, some maybe at larger scales from the ones you have just described.

so maybe I should clarify what meant in mine original post.

what I meant was me not seeing those things at the scale that this scriptural passage describes. As I remember vaguely from the sermons I have listened to over the years, the scale of those disasters and calamities talked about in those passages are something we have never seen before in the human history.

Anyway, I did a search online to see if I remembered correctly.

I came across this

Part 8 - Matthew 24:7 Famines and Earthquakes by Thomas Ice

anyway, the above link seem to confirm what I remembered, that is the famine, earthquakes the passage refers to will be worldwide, rather than regional.

Same applies to the wars, in the article, it talks about the war the passage refers to will be "global wars between nations and kingdoms"

we have not seen all these types of events happen all at once yet.

Fish55 said:

Hello fellow Christians. Do you think we are near the tribulation period or are already in the tribulation period?

Thank you. May the grace of our Lord Jesus Christ be with you.

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John 16:33
33 I have said these things to you, that in me you may have peace. In the world you will have tribulation. But take heart; I have overcome the world.”