So, just what was the Buffalo shooter's political ideology? [in his own words]

ottawak said:

The border is a mess and everybody knows it.

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Bingo! Truth.
The only difference in sides is how to fix the problem. Making poor desperate people suffer and separating mother from child are bad choices.

JustOneWay said:

You said it, not me. Thanks for reinforcing what I've said.

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Thanks for confirming that is what you think.

JustOneWay said:

Bingo! Truth.
The only difference in sides is how to fix the problem. Making poor desperate people suffer and separating mother from child are bad choices.

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Biden is separating children from their parents? How horrible

BPPLEE said:

Thanks for confirming that is what you think.

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I have never said all republicans are racist.

BPPLEE said:

Biden is separating children from their parents? How horrible

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Now deflection and sarcasm. Looks like the arguments are falling away.

JustOneWay said:

I have never said all republicans are racist.

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You said "Thanks for reinforcing what I've said " Sorry if I misunderstood

BPPLEE said:

If it's being done intentionally to benefit a political party that is a problem

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I'm not sure how it would benefit any particular party directly. Immigrants from Latin American countries tend to be social conservatives and will generally vote that way unless the social conservative party has particular policies or attitudes with which they strongly disagree. Democrats know this and know that letting in Latino immigrants and making it easier for them to become citizens is no slam-dunk Democratic voting bloc. So no, the excuse that Democrats are doing it on purpose is nothing but a red herring.

Why are changing demographics a problem?

ottawak said:

Why are changing demographics a problem?

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They're only a problem if you're a white person who thinks race = culture = nationality. Also known as a white nationalist.

ottawak said:

I'm not sure how it would benefit any particular party directly. Immigrants from Latin American countries tend to be social conservatives and will generally vote that way unless the social conservative party has particular policies or attitudes with which they strongly disagree. Democrats know this and know that letting in Latino immigrants and making it easier for them to become citizens is no slam-dunk Democratic voting bloc. So no, the excuse that Democrats are doing it on purpose is nothing but a red herring.

Why are changing demographics a problem?

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First of all you are admitting that it is going on. If we are going to change the demographics of the country why should Hispanics (Latin Americans) get an unfair advantage? Shouldn't we make sure all minorities are represented? Doing it legally is one thing but doing it through illegal immigration is illegal.

BPPLEE said:

First of all you are admitting that it is going on.

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Admitting what? That immigrants change demographics? That is a damning admission, one that will surely astonish population anthropologists..

If we are going to change the demographics of the country why should Hispanics (Latin Americans) get an unfair advantage?

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Because they're here, they are culturally a good fit and because the conditions they re fleeing were brought about at least in part by US foreign policy.*

Shouldn't we make sure all minorities are represented?

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I'm not sure what you mean.

Doing it legally is one thing but doing it through illegal immigration is illegal.

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That's a problem for you because you can't get free of the idea that it is being done on purpose.

*I assume you are talking about those fleeing the Triangle Countries to seek asylum here; conservatives don't seem concerned about any other illegals.

EDIT: The whole “goodness but immigration!” is off topic.

No I can't get free of the idea that it's illegal. Maybe you think we can accept everyone who comes here that everyone is being properly vetted and will all show up for their hearings will all get jobs and not need public assistance and that no one is getting in undetected. I don't 63% of Non-Citizen Households Access Welfare Programs

Pommer said:

EDIT: The whole “goodness but immigration!” is off topic.

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It relates to the shooter through his manifesto.

BPPLEE said:

First of all you are admitting that it is going on. If we are going to change the demographics of the country why should Hispanics (Latin Americans) get an unfair advantage? Shouldn't we make sure all minorities are represented? Doing it legally is one thing but doing it through illegal immigration is illegal.

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What? He is correct, there is no slam dunk that Latin Americans will automatically vote for Democrats, secondly what unfair advantage? The city I live in is half Mexican Americans and almost full on Mexican heritage, and our Congresspeople represent our Mexican community very well. Legally! I mean we voted for them! That is how our minorities are represented.

BPPLEE said:

No I can't get free of the idea that it's illegal. Maybe you think we can accept everyone who comes here that everyone is being properly vetted and will all show up for their hearings will all get jobs and not need public assistance and that no one is getting in undetected. I don't 63% of Non-Citizen Households Access Welfare Programs

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Can you provide a better or more reliable source for the 63% of non-citizen households being on welfare?


https://mediabiasfactcheck.com/center-for-immigration-studies-cis/

JustOneWay said:

What? He is correct, there is no slam dunk that Latin Americans will automatically vote for Democrats, secondly what unfair advantage? The city I live in is half Mexican Americans and almost full on Mexican heritage, and our Congresspeople represent our Mexican community very well. Legally! I mean we voted for them! That is how our minorities are represented.

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That's great

JosephZ said:

Can you provide a better or more reliable source for the 63% of non-citizen households being on welfare?

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https://mediabiasfactcheck.com/center-for-immigration-studies-cis/

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Noting that the 63% figure is from 2014.

JustOneWay said:

Noting that the 63% figure is from 2014.

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So you think it's gotten better since then?

BPPLEE said:

So you think it's gotten better since then?

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Your source is bogus.

BPPLEE said:

So you think it's gotten better since then?

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I guarantee it has changed in the last 8 years. It may even be more in your favor? But I don't care enough to read through the studies. It's your argument so have at it.