would you like to see Trump run in 2024 ?

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Yes, I would.

More specifically, I would like to see the GOP nominate a meat-and-potatoes McCain type. Trump runs as an independent, and together they split the vote, rendering both inert.

Here’s to hoping.
 
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why and why not?

if not, who would you like to run instead?

would you like to see a familiar face like Ted Cruz, or a fresh face like Josh Hawley, Dan Crenshaw or Ron DeSantis?
No.

and I don’t have a better option.

I’d like to see someone in the Republican Party like Teddy Roosevelt. Like all his views and and everything. Including the mustache and pince-nez eyeglasses.

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Yes the country is becoming increasingly liberal & I think any Republican is gonna face an uphill battle & so have a hard time seeing any win (w/ us struggling in the Midwest MI, WI, & PA, & us losing AZ & GA for good) so would rather just have him go down as a martyr.
 
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I would be entertained watching Trump run, with Richard Dawson sending burly muscular men after him. We'll call it Celebrity Running Man.

You beat me to it. I wonder how many sweaty metres it would take before the comb over came undone and started tripping anyone behind him?
 
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Yes the country is becoming increasingly liberal & I think any Republican is gonna face an uphill battle & so have a hard time seeing any win (w/ us struggling in MI, WI, & PA, & us losing AZ & GA for good) so would rather just have him go down as a martyr.

I don't know with Joe struggling in the polls I think trump would have a real good chance in 2024
 
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No. His policies were overall good, he made major strides in peace in the middle east, etc. However, I would much rather see another candidate. I really like DeSantis, but I would hate to loose him as governor of our state. That aside I would think DeSantis is a great candidate.
 
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"Another remarkable and unexpected symptom of national decline is the intensification of internal political hatreds. One would have expected that, when the survival of the nation became precarious, political factions would drop their rivalry and stand shoulder-to-shoulder to save their country. In the fourteenth century, the weakening empire of Byzantium was threatened, and indeed dominated, by the Ottoman Turks. The situation was so serious that one would have expected every subject of Byzantium to abandon his personal interests and to stand with his compatriots in a last desperate attempt to save the country. The reverse occurred. The Byzantines spent the last fifty years of their history in fighting one another in repeated civil wars, until the Ottomans moved in and administered the coup de grâce.

Britain has been governed by an elected parliament for many centuries. In former years, however, the rival parties observed many unwritten laws. Neither party wished to eliminate the other. All the members referred to one another as honourable gentlemen. But such courtesies have now lapsed. Booing, shouting and loud noises have undermined the dignity of the House, and angry exchanges are more frequent. We are fortunate if these rivalries are fought out in Parliament, but sometimes such hatreds are carried into the streets, or into industry in the form of strikes, demonstrations, boycotts and similar activities. True to the normal course followed by nations in decline, internal differences are not reconciled in an attempt to save the nation. On the contrary, internal rivalries become more acute, as the nation becomes weaker."

~The Fate of Empires and Search for Survival, by Sir John Bagot Glubb - XXI Civil dissensions, pg. 12-13.

Can we handle any more political drama (Ecc. 1:9)?

We need Christ-like leaders using rhetoric leading to reform, not entertainers[1] creating further division (Luke 11:17-18, Mark 3:24-26, Matt. 12:25-26, 2 Pet. 2:17-22, 2 Tim. 4:1-5). The Gospels of Matthew, Mark, Luke, and John record the Lord Jesus Christ leading by example. Before anyone mentions Him using insults like 'dogs' (Matt. 7:6, 2 Pet. 2:17-22, Prov. 26:11) and 'snakes' (Gen. 3:1, John 8:44, Matt. 12:33-37, 23:1-39, Rev. 12:9), these have Biblically symbolic meanings. Are we the world (1 John 2:15-17, John 15:18-16:4, 17:14-15, Rom. 12:2)? Why and how?

Psalm 146
1 Praise the Lord.

Praise the Lord, my soul.

2 I will praise the Lord all my life;
I will sing praise to my God as long as I live.
3 Do not put your trust in princes,
in human beings, who cannot save.
4 When their spirit departs, they return to the ground;
on that very day their plans come to nothing.
5 Blessed are those whose help is the God of Jacob,
whose hope is in the Lord their God.

6 He is the Maker of heaven and earth,
the sea, and everything in them—
he remains faithful forever.
7 He upholds the cause of the oppressed
and gives food to the hungry.
The Lord sets prisoners free,
8 the Lord gives sight to the blind,
the Lord lifts up those who are bowed down,
the Lord loves the righteous.
9 The Lord watches over the foreigner
and sustains the fatherless and the widow,
but he frustrates the ways of the wicked.

10 The Lord reigns forever,
your God, O Zion, for all generations.

Praise the Lord.
~Psalm 146 (NIV)

16 All Scripture is God-breathed and is useful for teaching, rebuking, correcting and training in righteousness, 17 so that the servant of God may be thoroughly equipped for every good work.
~2 Timothy 3:16-17 (NIV)

Whom are we going to choose to serve this day (Josh. 24:15, Luke 16:1-15, Matt. 6:19-34)? Why?
  1. The Fate of Empires and Search for Survival (1976) - Sir John Bagot Glubb - XXIII Frivolity (pg. 14) - "The heroes of declining nations are always the same—the athlete, the singer or the actor. The word ‘celebrity’ today is used to designate a comedian or a football player, not a statesman, a general, or a literary genius."
 
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I would not like to see Trump run, mainly due to his distrust of the election system.

I would rather have a more moderate, or at least less consperisy driven and less own the libs, GOP canidite. I would at least consider that type of canidite instead of dismissing them out of hand. But I don't have idea who that could be.
 
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That doesn't mean change party.

I don't agree, I think this is exactly the type of issue that would push Democrats over the edge, at least those who are hurting the situation that is.
 
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I would not like to see Trump run, mainly due to his distrust of the election system.

I would rather have a more moderate, or at least less consperisy driven and less own the libs, GOP canidite. I would at least consider that type of canidite instead of dismissing them out of hand. But I don't have idea who that could be.
Do you think he actually does mistrust the system? I got the impression it’s more that he knows his ‘base’ does, so banging on about voter fraud is one means of manipulating them. His ‘just find us ___ votes’ shows more a complete cynicism towards the whole idea of election integrity rather than a distrust in the system, i.e he has no interest in how it works, as long as it works for him. That’s how it seems to me.
 
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why and why not?

if not, who would you like to run instead?

would you like to see a familiar face like Ted Cruz, or a fresh face like Josh Hawley, Dan Crenshaw or Ron DeSantis?
I never liked Trump. But I have to concede that he was better than Hillary would have been. And he was better than Biden is now. And he would be far better than Kamala could ever be. But Cruz would also have been better, and Rubio would too, and Fiorina. The reason we got Trump in the first place was underhanded electioneering by Hillary and crew to get Trump nominated, thinking he would be easier to beat. It was a failure in underhanded electioneering, because she lost even to him. As she would have lost to almost every Republican candidate in that 2016 field. But she and the Media did everything to talk Trump up until they switched on a dime and turned against him the day after he got the nomination. Soooooo, Hilary gave us Trump. I didn't like or want him then and I don't like or want him for 2024 either.
 
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Do you think he actually does mistrust the system? I got the impression it’s more that he knows his ‘base’ does, so banging on about voter fraud is one means of manipulating them. His ‘just find us ___ votes’ show more a complete cynicism towards the whole idea of election integrity rather than a distrust in the system, i.e he has no interest in how it works, as long as it works for him. That’s how it seems to me.
You are right, he really wants to manipulate the system. Mostly because he thinks he can get away with it and that it is the way the system works.

Look at what he is telling Dr. Oz to do, declare victory even though the counting is not done.
 
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