Poll: what's next for a post-Roe v Wade America?

What would you like to see happen if/when Roe v Wade (1973) is overturned?

  • The Arizona Plan -- overturn Griswold v Connecticut (1965); outlaw contraception next.

    Votes: 0 0.0%
  • The Louisiana Plan, Nationwide -- abortion IS murder, and should be charged as such.

    Votes: 0 0.0%

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Banning abortion is a violation of that right to privacy, just as banning contraception is.
Do you feel that way about other sins against children? Or other forms of murder?
 
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Are there any exceptions you would allow?

Such as an ectopic pregnancy, or the Great Flood?
As a husband, my primary concern is to save my wife. My secondary concern is to save my children. So I would save my wife. As to the flood, that’s not relevant.
 
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Do you feel that way about other sins against children?

Does abortion involve a sin against children?

But if someone's right to privacy or bodily autonomy is being violated by a child, does that person have the right to defend themselves?


Or other forms of murder?

Abortion has not been classified as murder in the US. However, if a zygote is threatening to murder a woman via an ectopic pregnancy, does she have the right to defend herself?
 
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I will tell other Christians what they should think.

And they will tell you what you should think.

May the best "teller" win.
 
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Under the U.S. Constitution abortion will never be "murder" without a Human Life Amendment ratified by 38 states. Remember, for many years our Constitution only counted slaves as "3/5ths" of a person--for representation only--and it took a 4 year civil war to grant them their humanity.

Remember that 38 states have now ratified the 1970's Equal Rights Amendment--and it still hasn't been added to the Constitution, and women like me still aren't "equal."

Let's get equal rights for women into the Constitution before igniting a second Civil War--fought on two fronts, the East Coast states and the West Coast states.
 
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Do you feel that way about other sins against children? Or other forms of murder?

In every death penalty state i can think of, the murder of children is enough of a special circumstance to make seeking the death penalty a no-brainer.
 
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But there is an implied right to privacy.

Maybe not for long -- the right to privacy was implied in Griswold v Connecticut (1965), Roe's precedent...

... see "The Arizona Plan" in the OP -- is eliminating the right to privacy a bug or a feature?
 
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As a husband, my primary concern is to save my wife. My secondary concern is to save my children. So I would save my wife.

So you would support abortion to save the woman's life. Fair enough; laws should have exceptions.

...except some states disagree -- Alabama and Oklahoma, for example, allow absolutely no exceptions in their bans... not even for the life/health of the fetus or woman.

Your opinion?
 
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The fact that some folks think that it’s okay to take the life of the most innocent among us because it’s lawful must have also thought that slavery was okay as well. It was lawful.
That "most innocent among us" may be actively, though not intentionally, threatening the life, bodily integrity, health and safety of the person in who it resides. Removing the threat unfortunately means removing the fetus from the body.
 
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And yet, as of this post, the Louisiana plan still has 0 votes.

"Abortion is murder" makes for nice rhetoric, but not something people want to live by. I've got a theory on that.

You keep bringing this up, is there some importance to it?
 
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Does abortion involve a sin against children?
Yes.
But if someone's right to privacy or bodily autonomy is being violated by a child, does that person have the right to defend themselves?
Such as?

Abortion has not been classified as murder in the US. However, if a zygote is threatening to murder a woman via an ectopic pregnancy, does she have the right to defend herself?
I’ve addressed that already.
 
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